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Re: Is the USA/EU too weak to confront Russia? What will China do? [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#27682751 - 03/04/22 04:11 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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OutsideOfMyMind said: America is secretly in bed with Russia...............and China................ and the middle east......
Wow. You really know things.
I thought this was common knowledge? I was just stating the obvious.
You’re smart!
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Re: Is the USA/EU too weak to confront Russia? What will China do? [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#27682788 - 03/04/22 04:28 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Regarding the question of being too weak, that is the wrong question. A better question is do we have the resolve as we know we have the might. It also comes down to the question of what a maniac is willing to do. He has shown a total disregard for the rules of war regarding the Geneva and Hague conventions by using cluster bombs and massive thermobaric bombs and rockets. And don't forget that he has threatened nuclear retaliation if anyone interferes. How insane is he? They directed an artillery attack on the nuclear power plant. He doe not give a fuck.
They are committing war crimes and could care less about repercussions. I am hoping that the Russian people will rise up and that his military turns on him. What he is effectively doing is killing his economy and bringing devastation to his own people. He threatens nuclear first use response if we get in his way. He cannot be allowed to remain and the heat will be turned up to a degree his own people will remove him. That would be the optimal scenario but he has brutal Chechen security around him. Even they cannot stop what is coming. He may lash out in desperation and launch nukes. If he does so, I doubt China would come to his aid as China would doom their economy as well if they nuke the only nations that provide them revenue. Who will they sell to if they did that? Russia and the few remaining third world nations?
I suspect this could possibly be just one small piece in a global action involving more than Russia and China, but that is for the conspiracy thread.
Funny how many folks that are anti gun here in the US are begging to arm every Ukrainian. The only way to defeat the US will not be by foreign boots on the ground here. It will be by nukes or bioweapon as the latter does not destroy the land and resources. Or there is the 3rd option and that is we destroy ourselves in a civil war. One thing is clear: due to global trade, killing off the largest economy on the planet is a suicide pact.
I talk to farmers around here and I am being told that many will not be planting this season due to the cost of production, namely ag fertilizers and chems going up 100% already, and projected to go up another 200% before the end of the year. If this is not fixed soon, it will lead to not only high prices, but food shortages here and around the world as we are a critical exporter. This would cause famine in some countries. None of this is speculation as it is currently the case. AgRX told their customers to expect these increase in the coming months as it is now set in stone.
Killing oil production then claiming we need to become energy independent of any Russian oil is the policy of this administration that they announced. Guess what they suggest to become energy independent? Move to green energy. The last time I checked, you can't fertilize your crops with electricity. This cult of green energy is going to be paid for in human lives and this is not a stretch. I guess the cost of moving to green tech is worth it in their sick minds and they are now leveraging this war to do so.
You can now pile on, but this is my opinion.
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Re: Is the USA/EU too weak to confront Russia? What will China do? [Re: RedRH]
#27682837 - 03/04/22 04:59 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Is the USA/EU too weak to confront Russia? What will China do? [Re: Kryptos]
#27682898 - 03/04/22 05:50 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kryptos said: I don't doubt the US's ability to deploy air superiority. I doubt the US's ability to reliably recover aircraft deployed over modern AA installations. Sure, US planes can deal with old soviet surplus from the 70s, as demonstrated over the last 20 years. Sure, the F-35 is apparently significantly more capable compared to gen 4 fighters.
When it comes to total air superiority, my assumption is that launching ten planes means ten planes come back a few hours later, barring significant errors in maintenance or piloting. I simply do not believe that would still be the case in proximity to Russian installations.
Why send in manned fighters to take out AAA when we have so many other options that we always use first? Drones, cruise missiles, etc.. We also have some other weapons tech that has been tested and would be rolled out should we get into an actual declared war with Russia and I do not see that happening unless they attack a NATO ally. No air campaign starts until after we take out command and control and AAA with a combination of infiltrated teams and the already mentioned options. Ukraine will fall and it will be the slow bleed of insurgency for decades after. I thought they learned from Afghanistan. Apparently not.
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Re: Is the USA/EU too weak to confront Russia? What will China do? [Re: Kryptos]
#27682909 - 03/04/22 05:59 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: Then we aren't talking about conventional warfare anymore. The bottom line with armies is that they need constant resupply of equipment, ammunition, fuel, food, etc.
In an environment in which one party can impose air superiority over the operational theatre the ability of the other to move men or material in an efficient way is significantly reduced. In conventional warfare, this is the kiss of death.
In that case, I guess you are correct. We are not talking about a conventional war.
I shall amend my previous statement: nobody will ever fight a conventional war against the US.
Though, I also don't believe that the US could impose absolute air superiority anywhere in eastern Europe. Maybe a slight advantage, but not true superiority that allows deploying air assets with impunity.
If a NATO ally gets attacked, we absolutely would establish air superiority.
Regarding a country fighting us in a conventional war, that was exactly what Iraq attempted to do when they invaded Kuwait.
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Re: Is the USA/EU too weak to confront Russia? What will China do? [Re: RedRH]
#27682914 - 03/04/22 06:07 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ask a few Russians you may know why Putin waited until now to invade the Ukraine. You will get an interesting answer that may infuriate some here. I have already done so as we had Russian clients and they have been telling us for a few years now. Crimea, pause button pushed and now restarted to take the rest. Hmmmm.....
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