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Re: Australia suspends RT broadcast [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27701513 - 03/19/22 03:30 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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I feel like your making a pretty good case for us to go there and bomb  the place to save them .




Well it wouldn't be the first time. Try not to kill a million civilians in the process this time.

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Re: Australia suspends RT broadcast [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27701535 - 03/19/22 03:50 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Austin Orders U.S. Military to Step Up Efforts to Prevent Civilian Harm


 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/01/27/us/politics/us-airstrikes-rand-report.amp.html

When we go to war and kill civilians we have investigations and shit , we try to avoid it in the future .  Our media talks about it , the world demonizes us and we vote for politicians who try change things . 
  None of that happens in Russia .

We even have annual reports about it .

https://media.defense.gov/2021/Aug/05/2002823939/-1/-1/0/ANNUAL-REPORT-ON-CIVILIAN-CASUALTIES-IN-CONNECTION-WITH-UNITED-STATES-MILITARY-OPERATIONS-IN-2020-FINAL.PDF


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Re: Australia suspends RT broadcast [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #27701580 - 03/19/22 04:42 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Annual report's oh look my mistake :hatsoff: I'm sure that makes those people's families in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria etc etc feel much better.

Hey was anybody ever charged with those civilian murders ? You know, like the people that ordered the murders? Not the grunt's doing the dirty work, the people giving the orders, the higher up people, similar to evil Putin, like oh I dunno say a President. Anyone like that?

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Re: Australia suspends RT broadcast [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27701585 - 03/19/22 04:47 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm tired of the stupid games people are playing here.  I'll address your last post, and HOPEFULLY drop out again, because there's too many dumb posters here (I'll admit, you're NOT one of them).

Nazis have ALREADY been killing ethnic Russians, it's not just a 'plan'.  It's been happening for the last 8 years.  I'm happy that you at least acknowledge there's a Nazi problem.

Ok, I'm out again.  Hopefully for a long time, though I'll admit I might get sucked back in to report on something interesting again.

But I'm out for now.




If I'm not one of the "dumb posters", it seems like an odd reason to explain why you won't be responding to my criticism (despite your parting claim that you'll "address [my] last post").

I've never not acknowledged the reality of fascism anywhere it occurs. The difference is I actually want to build a comprehensive antifascist movement, rather than pretend that the Russian state is an antifascist actor in some lame-ass attempt to justify military aggression.

Fascism is an inherently violent ideology, and fascists kill people - that's why I'm an antifascist - but acting like this is a problem unique to Ukrainian nationalism that doesn't similarly infect Russian nationalism is wrong. Between the Wagner group working with Russian military and the separatists in eastern Ukraine acceptance of non-Ukrainian fascists, I believe I've sufficiently demonstrated this reality.

Furthermore, the Russian claim of denazification isn't merely that Ukrainian fascists are killing ethnic Russians - the claim is that Ukraine is a fascist state actively planning genocide. I've seen no evidence of this, yet your responses suggest you believe it - but instead of responding to this criticism, you're "out for now".

Instead of responding to the question of which Ukrainian gov't officials must be removed to satisfy the process of denazification, you're "out for now".

Instead of responding to the criticism that you "can understand this position" of the Russian state, that labelling what's happening in Ukraine an attack, invasion, or a declaration of war is dissemination of false information, you're "out for now".

Instead of responding to the criticism that you're okay with neo-nazi paramilitaries so long as they include the plausible deniability of being labelled private military contractors, you're "out for now".

What's left to say except good riddance!


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Re: Australia suspends RT broadcast [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27701722 - 03/19/22 06:50 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Annual report's oh look my mistake :hatsoff: I'm sure that makes those people's families in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria etc etc feel much better.

Hey was anybody ever charged with those civilian murders ? You know, like the people that ordered the murders? Not the grunt's doing the dirty work, the people giving the orders, the higher up people, similar to evil Putin, like oh I dunno say a President. Anyone like that?



 
  Point I'm making is that we don't lie about it , we know about all of it ,  it changes our culture .
  Yes people get charged and we make out payments .

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5 U.S. Soldiers Accused of Killing Afghan Civilians




https://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/us/20soldiers.html


""THE PENTAGON HAS A NEW PROCESS FOR PAYING FOR CIVILIAN DEATHS — BUT IS STILL SLOW TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM
A Pentagon report shows that in 2019 the military made 65 condolence payments in Afghanistan, six in Iraq, and none in any other country.""

https://theintercept.com/2020/07/27/pentagon-cilivian-deaths/


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Re: Australia suspends RT broadcast [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27701751 - 03/19/22 07:20 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

5 charged and 71 condolence payments

:inbred:

I'm not sure if that adds up to a million?

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Re: Australia suspends RT broadcast [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #27701834 - 03/19/22 08:38 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Kwyjibo said:
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Well apparently every once in a while, Nazis do something right.

Russia has their own equivalent of Nazis, in larger numbers than Ukraine.



Not in the Governemnt.



Source or make believe?




In either case they are well tolerated, if not encouraged in Russia, just as Trump encouraged them here.
The idea that the invasion was over Nazis in Ukraine is bullshit, and it's honestly embarrassing that some people believe it.


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Re: Australia suspends RT broadcast [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #27701848 - 03/19/22 09:00 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Annual report's oh look my mistake :hatsoff: I'm sure that makes those people's families in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria etc etc feel much better.

Hey was anybody ever charged with those civilian murders ? You know, like the people that ordered the murders? Not the grunt's doing the dirty work, the people giving the orders, the higher up people, similar to evil Putin, like oh I dunno say a President. Anyone like that?




Well, lets let the elephant out of the box. Those people weren't white. Yeah I said it.


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