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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27677113 - 02/28/22 04:08 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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All the shitfuckery behind the scenes doesn’t count then?




    Count for what ? Justifying and excusing Putin's decisions ?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27677119 - 02/28/22 04:13 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Count for being part of the problem.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #27677122 - 02/28/22 04:15 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Did you hear Lauren Boebert earlier today? She said Russia should invade the US and Canada to get rid of "tyranny".




There was a time in this country I used to be genuinely afraid to say shit that dumb .
  I also genuinely appreciate the irony of  a Trump supporter , a guy who supposedly had no collusion at all with Russia , calling for a Russian invasion .
  That's fucking cool ,  I feel like the crazy kinda mellowed out after the election , it's coming back though .


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #27677127 - 02/28/22 04:17 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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I don't accept the sanitized western narrative either. But, again, if that is legitimate grounds for invasion, then virtually every country would be right to invade virtually every other country.





Pretty much what you said above and I agree it's NOT legitimate grounds for Russia's invasion.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27677129 - 02/28/22 04:21 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Count for being part of the problem.



 
    Have you ever blamed a third party  for an act of violence you committed against another person or group of people ?
    If you did would it seem reasonable for me as the third party to accept  and share your responsibility ?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27677132 - 02/28/22 04:23 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I didn't say that. I said the U.S. government are part of the problem.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27677135 - 02/28/22 04:36 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Remember when 9/11 happened? My cousin was in New York, he said the anger was through the roof, and rightly so.
That blind anger morphed blindly into war.
20 years later, nothing was resolved and the premise for the war turned out to be a crock of shit. That episode sent the U.S. backwards. I get to see war veterans regularly here, it's a place they retire to broken and fucked up.

I'd prefer we don't do it again without asking some serious questions first.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27677144 - 02/28/22 04:44 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Is it true that Ukraine is controlled by Nazis like the Dore show is suggesting ?


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Neo-Nazism is one of the central claims behind President Vladimir Putin's decision to invade Ukraine, despite evidence that the assertion is false.




https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/politics/how-putin-uses-nazi-propaganda-to-defend-ukraine-invasion-russia/%3famp=true


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27677149 - 02/28/22 04:46 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I think the 'Nazi' comment is referring to people being burned alive in the Donbas. Not 100% sure but I think that's the reason.

Edit, the anti-semitism by right wing groups after the 2014 election. I'd have to go back and look at the video again but I think Dore or Aaron Mate said something like that regarding people being burned alive.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27677154 - 02/28/22 04:50 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Is it true that NATO is backing Nazis in Ukraine  and this is for denazifacation like Putin suggests  ?

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I think the 'Nazi' comment is referring to people being burned alive in the Donbas. Not 100% sure but I think that's the reason.




  In 2014 or recently ?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27677161 - 02/28/22 04:57 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I wouldn't use the term Nazi, but if Ukrainian Jews are coming under attack from right wing groups, what should it be called?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27677166 - 02/28/22 05:00 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

In 2014 or now? I don't really know, we don't get to hear much about what's actually happening.

I could look at RT News but whoa, I'd get crucified like Falcon. I'll see what I can dig up elsewhere first and report back.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27677173 - 02/28/22 05:08 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I quickly skimmed through this from Bellingcat. It refers to neo-nazi's in the current Ukrainian Ministry.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/10/21/how-to-mainstream-neo-nazis-a-lesson-from-ukraines-new-government/


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27677174 - 02/28/22 05:11 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

In 2014 or now ? Dont you think there's some significance to wether Nazis are burning people alive now or if it was back in 2014 ?
    Let's try this , 
  I saw your mom taking a giant goat penis on your  neighbors  porch back in 2014 vs your mom is taking a giant goat penis on your neighbors porch .
  See the difference ?



    That article is from 2019 .


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27677176 - 02/28/22 05:14 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

There's almost certainly some far right neo-nazi political groups active in Ukraine, they've been popping up everywhere. Hell, they have them in Russia (and I think a few back Putin).

It's a tiny little swastika-shaped fig leaf.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27677180 - 02/28/22 05:16 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)



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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27677185 - 02/28/22 05:19 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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In 2014 or now ? Dont you think there's some significance to wether Nazis are burning people alive now or if it was back in 2014 ?
    Let's try this , 
  I saw your mom taking a giant goat penis on your  neighbors  porch back in 2014 vs your mom is taking a giant goat penis on your neighbors porch .
  See the difference ?



    That article is from 2019 .




Hey if you want to try the anecdotes can you keep me out of it please? It's obnoxious. Stick to the debate if you can.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #27677189 - 02/28/22 05:21 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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There's almost certainly some far right neo-nazi political groups active in Ukraine, they've been popping up everywhere. Hell, they have them in Russia (and I think a few back Putin).

It's a tiny little swastika-shaped fig leaf.




Yeah the further I look the more stories pop up.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27677219 - 02/28/22 05:49 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Hey if you want to try the anecdotes can you keep me out of it please? It's obnoxious. Stick to the debate if you can.




      In your Jimmy Dore video , towards the end , Dore claims Putin is going into Ukraine to stop Nazis slaughtering people .
  The only thing I could find was something about people being burned in 2014 ?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27677256 - 02/28/22 06:09 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Yep same here, and I couldn't work out who was responsible.


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