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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Nitro87]
    #27685406 - 03/06/22 06:06 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

By far the best analysis on Ukraine comes from The Saker.

Here's his latest:

http://thesaker.is/day-11-putins-last-warning-before-beginning-of-the-2nd-phase-of-the-operation/

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Translation:  If the leadership of Ukraine continues to do what they are doing, it will call into question the future of Ukrainian statehood, and that will be entirely their responsibility

I think that it is important to understand the context in which Putin made this statement.  As a reminder

The Ukronazi armed forces are down to less than 25% of its original size.
Almost all the remaining forces are in some type or another of cauldrons.
Russia has full air supremacy
The Ukronazi fleet does not exist anymore
In spite of all the propaganda, no help from abroad will affect the outcome of this war
It appears that Russia will surround Odessa and eventually take control of the entire Ukrainian Black Sea coast
In other words, what seems to be shaping up is that Russia will soon have control over the entire Ukraine except for the western provinces (west of Vinnitsa and Zhitomir).  In other words, the war is over, at least militarily.  There will be a meeting between Russian and Ukrainian negotiators tomorrow, and it shall be interesting to see if something, anything, will come out of it.

The west is clearly determined to heroically fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian.  Russia wants to stop this operation as soon as possible, but only after her double goals of 1) disarmament and 2) denazification are achieved.

Right now the big question is Kiev.  It’s a big city with plenty of civilians and probably 30-50 thousand combatants of all different kinds (VSU, SBU, Volkssturm, deathsquads, looters, etc.).  The logical solution would be to offer the combatants (and the civilians) corridors to exit the city, but the West can’t have that.

Now if the Ukies won’t vacate Kiev, then some rather serious fighting will take place inside the city and clearing the city from the Nazis will demand the involvement of a major Russian force.  It appears that these forces are now in their staging areas all around the city (except for the south).

Think about it this way: the frontline (line of contact) is now very long and the Ukies don’t have enough forces to even try to hold any frontline in such a context.

However, remember the number of Russian forces deployed along the Ukrainian border – about 100’000+ or so soldiers?  It appears that there are currently not enough Russia forces to fully exploit the Russian advances over the past ten days.  Alternatively, we could say that  the Russian force is big enough, but that now it has to sharply increase its use of firepower to further develop its operations.





All the people protesting against the war in Russia, I find it ironic that they were nowhere to be found when Donbass was under shelling for 8 years, leading to the deaths of 14,000 civilians and 500 children.

Where were all the protests and naked french chicks running around in Ukrainian colors when Donbass needed them? Gee, it's almost like people only care about the victims of war when the media tells them to care. In all other cases, it's just fine and dandy.

It should be noted the people protesting in Russia are mainly the Navalny bloc which represents something around less than 5% of the Russian population. Navalny himself is little more than a stooge doing the bidding of the CIA, so it's not much of a surprise that they don't have much popularity inside of Russia.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: chopstick] * 1
    #27685426 - 03/06/22 06:18 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

"The Saker has become a franchise for an international network of pro-Kremlin outlets, with branches in German, Italy, Latin America, and Russia. A Saker is a sort of falcon, falco cherrug, endemic to the steppes of Eurasia. The name of the blog is an anagram of the blogger’s name.

The Saker connects Russian nationalist groups and outlets with North American anti-Semite groups; Russian communists with French and Italian right-wing activist. Devote Christians with aggressive thugs. It’s a successful franchise in disinformation."

https://euvsdisinfo.eu/the-saker-blind-loyalty-disguised-as-defiance/

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: feevers]
    #27685427 - 03/06/22 06:21 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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The west is clearly determined to heroically fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian.



 
    So is the last Ukrainian .  No one ever talks about what they want . I would rather die than be part of Russia too .


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Now if the Ukies won’t vacate Kiev, then some rather serious fighting will take place inside the city and clearing the city from the Nazis will demand



 
Lol .


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: feevers] * 1
    #27685442 - 03/06/22 06:40 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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feevers said:
"The Saker has become a franchise for an international network of pro-Kremlin outlets, with branches in German, Italy, Latin America, and Russia. A Saker is a sort of falcon, falco cherrug, endemic to the steppes of Eurasia. The name of the blog is an anagram of the blogger’s name.

The Saker connects Russian nationalist groups and outlets with North American anti-Semite groups; Russian communists with French and Italian right-wing activist. Devote Christians with aggressive thugs. It’s a successful franchise in disinformation."

https://euvsdisinfo.eu/the-saker-blind-loyalty-disguised-as-defiance/




Right - anybody who tells the truth these days is a kremlin agent. How could I possibly forget?

That's funny, I didn't know people had gone to such lengths to smear him. In my mind, that only makes him even more legitimate.

He is critical of Zionism, not judaism. Believe it or not, there is a difference. It comes as no surprise to me that his enemies would paint him with the anti-semitism label - considering they do this to practically anyone that is critical of US or Israeli Foreign Policy.

This pathetic garbage is a joke man. Your source is clearly part of a government-sponsored disinformation campaign to target those who dare to challenge the insane foreign policy of the west. Do you have any more nonsense to falsely smear someone whom has made an unwavering dedication to the truth or are you done?

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27685447 - 03/06/22 06:44 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Anonymous has taken over Russian state TV inside russia and is broadcasting footage from the war. They claim it is the biggest operation they’ve ever launched.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #27685464 - 03/06/22 07:01 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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All the people protesting against the war in Russia, I find it ironic that they were nowhere to be found when Donbass was under shelling for 8 years, leading to the deaths of 14,000 civilians and 500 children.

Where were all the protests and naked french chicks running around in Ukrainian colors when Donbass needed them? Gee, it's almost like people only care about the victims of war when the media tells them to care. In all other cases, it's just fine and dandy.




What media? There’s nothing but Putin propaganda inside Russia.

8 years is exactly how long it’s been since Russia started the war in Donbas. You ever think to yourself that maybe Russia is the problem?

Spoiler: it is


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #27685473 - 03/06/22 07:06 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:


What media? There’s nothing but Putin propaganda inside Russia.

8 years is exactly how long it’s been since Russia started the war in Donbas. You ever think to yourself that maybe Russia is the problem?

Spoiler: it is




Everything is always Russia's fault according to you. Including the 2016 election, which I'm sure you still think to this day was stolen by Russia.

The war was started by the Obama-installed illegitimate regime that unleashed a hellish military offensive on their own nation's people 8 years ago. A war which they lost, and out of frustration took revenge on random civilians by launching cowardly attack after cowardly attack on civilian areas with long-range artillery. For 8 fucking years.

The world has had enough of it. The attacks on Donbass had to stop. Unfortunately, the only way to achieve this was to completely disarm Ukraine's military. Otherwise, they would have never stopped killing kids in Donetsk and Luhansk.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #27685474 - 03/06/22 07:06 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Chopstick you are actually the most severely brainwashed person I think I’ve ever dealt with. While it is an interesting spectacle for a while, there is no reason to engage anymore. You’ve been like this for a long while and you’re probably a lost cause. Too cognitively corrupted to even rescue yourself. Good luck dude.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: chopstick] * 1
    #27685476 - 03/06/22 07:07 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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chopstick said:
This pathetic garbage is a joke man. Your source is clearly part of a government-sponsored disinformation campaign to target those who dare to challenge the insane foreign policy of the west. Do you have any more nonsense to falsely smear someone whom has made an unwavering dedication to the truth or are you done?




I went back and read some snippets on older articles from your site... election fraud conspiracies, new world order/deep state nonsense, constant Putin worship (the entire site is basically a shrine to Putin) etc.. big surprise that's where you get your news from.

Did a quick shroomery search to see if it's been used by anyone here before, sure enough it's been one of your go-to's for years and you refer to the guy who runs it as your friend :lol:. You're radicalized and don't even realize it

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods] * 1
    #27685488 - 03/06/22 07:11 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:
Koods you are actually the most severely brainwashed person I think I’ve ever dealt with. While it is an interesting spectacle for a while, there is no reason to engage anymore. You’ve been like this for a long while and you’re probably a lost cause. Too cognitively corrupted to even rescue yourself. Good luck dude.





Fixed that for ya

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: feevers]
    #27685502 - 03/06/22 07:23 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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feevers said:
Quote:

chopstick said:
This pathetic garbage is a joke man. Your source is clearly part of a government-sponsored disinformation campaign to target those who dare to challenge the insane foreign policy of the west. Do you have any more nonsense to falsely smear someone whom has made an unwavering dedication to the truth or are you done?




I went back and read some snippets on older articles from your site... election fraud conspiracies, new world order/deep state nonsense, constant Putin worship (the entire site is basically a shrine to Putin) etc.. big surprise that's where you get your news from.

Did a quick shroomery search to see if it's been used by anyone here before, sure enough it's been one of your go-to's for years and you refer to the guy who runs it as your friend :lol:. You're radicalized and don't even realize it




I like The Saker. He's a smart guy and one of the few willing to tell it how it is. A rare quality amongst journalists and news outlets today.

He actually used to work for a five-eyes spying agency in the 90's. He was tasked with creating reports on Yugoslavia during NATO's bombing campaign at the time. What he saw disgusted him so much that he quit his job and became an independent blogger, diametrically opposed to the warmongering of his former employers.

That's somebody who actually has morals. They are very, very few and far between. That's why he's a real diamond in the rough. And it's real rough out here in terms of media coverage now.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: chopstick] * 2
    #27685526 - 03/06/22 07:38 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I read chopstick posts with this affectation



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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: chopstick]
    #27685528 - 03/06/22 07:41 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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That's why he's a real diamond in the rough. And it's real rough out here in terms of media coverage now.




Rough means the diamond is unpolished, not in a wild setting.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: feevers] * 1
    #27685676 - 03/06/22 10:45 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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feevers said:
Did a quick shroomery search to see if it's been used by anyone here before, sure enough it's been one of your go-to's for years and you refer to the guy who runs it as your friend :lol:. You're radicalized and don't even realize it




Chopstick has a lot of prominent right wing friends. Chopstick knew the good guy with a gun that was heroically shot by cops in Colorado.

I wonder if chopstick's friends know chopstick...

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #27685686 - 03/06/22 10:51 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

The Saker is not a right winger. Also he's way smarter than all you idiots. Read his blog, maybe it'll help de-program all of you from your mindless NPC-like behavior

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: chopstick]
    #27685691 - 03/06/22 10:55 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

There's the name calling again

:herpderp:

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: ONE OZ SLUG] * 1
    #27685698 - 03/06/22 11:09 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Oh look, a ukrainian soldier wearing a Black Sun patch:

https://twitter.com/QuakerPuppygirl/status/1500587514943336449/photo/1

Apparently it was a symbol used by Heinrich Himmler:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol)


Ukrainian soldiers are literally modeling their patches and logos off SS officers.

And there are thousands just like that guy in Ukraine.

Yep, totally normal and not at all Nazi!

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: chopstick] * 1
    #27685710 - 03/06/22 11:26 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

We have nazis in the states too  . It would be bizarre , but if Russia invaded my country I guess we would kill Russians together ?
      Has there been any Nazi genocides or anything lately in Ukraine that demanded an full scale invasion ?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27685718 - 03/06/22 11:38 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Nazis don't exist


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: budmanman]
    #27685766 - 03/07/22 01:25 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Well that guy might be a nazi so I guess Putin can continue blowing up apartment buildings


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