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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: wolf8312]
#27683113 - 03/04/22 08:54 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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mycosis said: Afghanis are about to eat the shit sandwich they deserve. They were given every opportunity and weapon to fight for their women and children and they folded like a bunch of god damn cowards.
Yeah, it was those shit sandwich eating camel humping faggots who refused to fight who are to blame! Put me on the front line with an infidel army and I'd show those pussies how to fight for democratic American values!
Edit: Wait did you actually say: Nazi or not?
All your senses are keyed and honed you read perfectly well.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: mycosis]
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mycosis said: Afghanis are about to eat the shit sandwich they deserve. They were given every opportunity and weapon to fight for their women and children and they folded like a bunch of god damn cowards.
Yeah, it was those shit sandwich eating camel humping faggots who refused to fight who are to blame! Put me on the front line with an infidel army and I'd show those pussies how to fight for democratic American values!
Edit: Wait did you actually say: Nazi or not?
All your senses are keyed and honed you read perfectly well. 
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: wolf8312]
#27683122 - 03/04/22 09:00 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds like your typical American white supremacy Clown . Has a problem with govt says bullets are the answer . Obvious white supremest. We have so many here in the states , I know them when I see them . It's like gaydar , but for racist assholes .
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
#27683151 - 03/04/22 09:36 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilynut2 said: Sounds like your typical American white supremacy Clown . Has a problem with govt says bullets are the answer . Obvious white supremest. We have so many here in the states , I know them when I see them . It's like gaydar , but for racist assholes .
Personally though -and this is something I believe with all my heart and have been saying on the shroomery for a decade- I think the real Nazis we need to worry about are the ones within our western governments.
Maybe they are not Nazis per say, but IMO they are every bit as ruthless and dangerous.
There may be an element of white supremacy among the American working classes and Trump supporters (and even the protesters) but I think it's important to know the real thing when one sees it.
Canada was a hair's breadth away from a full-blown dictatorship and all because of a peaceful protest attended by normal families protesting vaccine mandates (which are far more Nazi than any fascist flag could be).
I live in China and spent two months in a hospital here with COVID and it was not a voluntary hospitalization.
And let me tell you, you do not want an authoritarian society like that in the west, with their QR codes and tracking, and a government that can do whatever it pleases whenever it pleases, in the name of public safety.
A Nazi for me, in essence, is not even really a racist despite how absurd that may sound. Many of the Nazi leaders were just ruthless careerists as opposed to truly racist ideologues.
Just a psychopath or sociopath basically who will do and say anything to achieve his goals.
If racism works he will use racism. If anti-racism works he will use that instead.
But a hell of a lot of us could discover that we too are Nazis if placed in a job or position of power that we wished to maintain and avoid losing.
This in a nutshell is the fatal problem with our MSM these days, and they deal with it not only by constantly lying to us but by constantly lying to themselves.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: wolf8312]
#27683565 - 03/05/22 08:25 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Every bit as ruthless and dangerous as the real Nazi's?
Canada near a Dictatorship?
I don't mind some hyperbole, but you are being obtuse.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: wolf8312]
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Personally though -and this is something I believe with all my heart and have been saying on the shroomery for a decade- I think the real Nazis we need to worry about are the ones within our western governments.
Could you name one ? Cause I've been asking people on the shroomery for years who they think these evil pedos and Nazis in our govt to are and all I get are conspiracy ramblings . You entire post makes no sense to me at all . We are all Nazis given the opportunity of self discovery ? Wtf ?
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
#27683710 - 03/05/22 10:43 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Canada was a hair's breadth away from a full-blown dictatorship and all because of a peaceful protest attended by normal families protesting vaccine mandates (which are far more Nazi than any fascist flag could be).
You’re fucking ridiculous
There are a half dozen vaccines that have been mandated in the United States for DECADES and aside from a few fringe freaks, nobody ever really cared until you crybabies turned up.
What are these protests even about? The masks are gone. The vaccine mandates are gone. It’s almost like the government wasn’t just tying to control people and these rules vanished as the covid wave ended.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
#27683724 - 03/05/22 10:56 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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We are all Nazis given the opportunity of self discovery ? Wtf ?
These people think people are tying to impose a dictatorship because that’s what they would do if they were in power. They want to overthrow the government? For what, to have another election that they’ll lose. They wouldn’t surrender that power, and they don’t understand that most people do not think like they do.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
#27683729 - 03/05/22 11:02 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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live in China and spent two months in a hospital here with COVID and it was not a voluntary hospitalization.
What does this even mean
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods] 2
#27684029 - 03/05/22 03:15 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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The View from Ukraine, the View from Russia - An Exile from Donbas and a Protester in Russia Tell Their Stories
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To help people understand what is taking place in Ukraine and Russia, we present accounts from anarchists in both countries. In the first, a displaced person from the capitol city of the “Luhansk People’s Republic,” one of the two areas of eastern Ukraine that was ruled by Russian-funded separatists until the invasion, describes his experience attempting to escape from the war zone and the conditions that prevail in Ukraine right now. In the second, a Russian protester describes the challenges that Russians are facing as they attempt to mobilize against the war under extremely repressive conditions.
While some supposed “leftists” in the English-speaking world have parroted Vladimir Putin’s talking points, excusing the Russian invasion by blaming NATO or speculating that the thousands of Ukrainians who have already been killed must be fascists, we believe that any responsible engagement with these events must center the voices of ordinary Ukrainians and Russians who oppose military aggression. Rather than being mere information consumers, rather than abetting the imperial ambitions of dictators or looking to other self-interested governments to contain those ambitions, we have to build relations of real solidarity with the people who are immediately affected by this invasion—in Ukraine, in Russia, in Belarus, and elsewhere.
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#27684030 - 03/05/22 03:16 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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And a couple recent podcasts for those who prefer the medium.
The Ex-Worker #81: Invasion and Resistance in Ukraine, Part I - The history leading up to the Russian invasion; Ukrainian anarchists speak out
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As Russian tanks encircle Kyiv and hundreds of thousands of refugees flee, our hearts go out to our comrades in Ukraine resisting the Russian invasion—and to the Russian anti-war movement bringing the resistance home. In this episode, we explore the history and background context to the current crisis in Ukraine. A variety of firsthand accounts from the weeks leading up to the invasion discuss differing perspectives on the threat of war, the complexities of anti-fascism, the role of NATO, and possibilities for principled resistance in times of severe threat. We share an excerpt from an interview by Elephant in the Room with a Ukrainian anarchist discussing the political history of Ukraine since the fall of the Soviet empire, Putin’s vulnerabilities, and the character of the current Ukrainian regime. A long essay written by a group of Ukrainian anarchists maps out the political landscape from the Maidan protests through the present crisis, with special attention to the evolution of the anarchist movement in recent years. And a statement from Russian anarchists on the eve of the invasion highlights the shared commitment of anarchists in the region to resisting Russian imperialism while working towards a broader vision of liberation.
The Ex-Worker #82: Invasion and Resistance in Ukraine, Part II - Grassroots mobilization against Putin’s invasion by anarchists from Ukraine and Russia
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As the Russian invasion of Ukraine proceeds, anarchists on both sides of the border are mobilizing to resist. This episode collects a variety of statements and accounts from anti-authoritarians explaining their opposition to Putin’s bloodthirsty imperialism while rejecting nationalism and the state. We share messages from the newly formed anarchist Committee of Resistance in Kyiv, as well as from Russian anarchist groups including Food Not Bombs Moscow, Anarchist Fighter, and St. Petersburg’s Anarchist Black Cross. These testimonies refute Russian state and authoritarian leftist propaganda about the invasion and emphasize the possibilities for resistance and solidarity. An anarchist refugee attempting to escape the war zone gives a detailed report on daily life in the midst of war, martial law, the political composition of the armed forces, the grassroots mobilization of society for defense and mutual aid, the situation at the border, and ways to show support. Stay tuned for more coverage of anarchist analysis and resistance from the front lines of imperial war.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: wolf8312]
#27684751 - 03/06/22 08:00 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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The smearing of conservatives as "domestic terrorist Nazi cult members" is often fueled by black supremacy
Black segregation is skyrocketing. More & more black segregation is occurring. Self-segregation
Being AA is "exceptional & powerful". How about Arab, Chinese, Hindu, and so on . . .
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Near Dylan]
#27684797 - 03/06/22 08:56 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Near Dylan said: Biden can't get through one sentence without fumbling his words or making a statement that makes no sense grammatically.
What an embarrassing leader to have right now..
I'm just getting back on after a break (really because with this war I had to see what y'all were saying, I missed you all terribly) and never does it cease to amaze me. Yes Joe Biden speaks like a horse kicked him in the head the same way trump spoke as if he just had a stroke. The hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me xD
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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RJ Tubs 202 said: The smearing of conservatives as "domestic terrorist Nazi cult members" is often fueled by black supremacy
Black segregation is skyrocketing. More & more black segregation is occurring. Self-segregation
Being AA is "exceptional & powerful". How about Arab, Chinese, Hindu, and so on . . .
Sounds like something you read on one of your nazi cult member websites to get wypipo all worked up into a paranoid frenzy.
Black power ✊🏿.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods] 2
#27684942 - 03/06/22 11:14 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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ZAPATISTA SIXTH COMMISSION. Mexico.
THERE WILL BE NO LANDSCAPE AFTER THE BATTLE (On the invasion of the Russian army into Ukraine). March 2, 2022.
To those who signed the Declaration for Life:
To the national and international Sexta:
Comrades and Sisters:
We give you our words and thoughts on what is currently happening in the geography they call Europe:
FIRST.- There is an aggressive force, the Russian army. There are interests of big capital at stake, on both sides. Those who are suffering now because of the delusions of some and the crafty economic calculations of others are the peoples of Russia and Ukraine (and, perhaps soon, those of other geographies near and far away).
As Zapatistas we do not support one State or the other, but those who fight for life against the system.
With the multinational invasion of Iraq — almost 19 years ago — led by the US army, there were mobilizations all over the world against that war. No one in their right mind thought that to oppose the invasion was to side with Saddam Hussein. Now the situation seems similar, though not the same. Neither Zelenskyy nor Putin. Stop the war.
SECOND.- Different governments have sided with one faction or the other, and have done so on the basis of economic calculations. There is no appeal to humanity in them. For these governments and their ideologues, there are good and bad interventions-invasions-destructions.
The good ones are those carried out by their supporters, and the bad ones are those perpetrated by their opponents. The applause for Putin's criminal argument to justify the military invasion of Ukraine will turn into a lament when, by the same words, the invasion of other peoples whose processes do not please big capital will be justified.
They will invade other geographies to save them from "the neo-Nazi tyranny" or they will claim it is all to put an end to neighboring "narco-states". They will then repeat the same words muttered by Putin: "we are going to denazify" (or its equivalent); from there a vast amount of "rationalization" regarding "the danger posed by the people in such territories".
And then, as our comrades in Russia tell us: "Russian bombs, rockets, bullets – they all fly towards Ukrainian citizens, and these weapons do not ask them about their political ideology, or the language they speak", but the "nationality" of one or the other will change.
THIRD.- Big capital and its “Western” regimes sat back and watched — and even encouraged — the situation as it deteriorated. Then, once the invasion had begun, they waited to see if Ukraine would resist, calculating what they could get out of one result or the other. As Ukraine persisted, then they began to issue "aid" invoices to be charged later. Putin is not the only one surprised by the Ukrainian resistance.
Those who win in this war are the big weapon-manufacturing consortiums, and the big capitals that see this opportunity to conquer: to destroy-reconstruct territories, that is to say, to create new markets of commodities and consumers, of human lives.
FOURTH.- Instead of turning to what the media and the social networks of the respective sides disseminate — and which both present as "news" — or to the "analyses" in the sudden proliferation of alleged experts in geopolitics, sudden fanatics of the Warsaw Pact and NATO – instead, we decided to seek out and ask those who, like us, are engaged in the struggle for life in Ukraine and Russia.
After several attempts, the Sixth Zapatista Commission1 managed to make contact with our family-in-resistance-and-rebellion in the geographies they call Russia and Ukraine.
FIFTH.- In summary, these, our relatives, who also raise the flag of the libertarian-@, remain firm in resistance: those who are in Donbass, in Ukraine; and in rebellion, those who work and walk the streets and fields of Russia. Those arrested and beaten in Russia for protesting against the war. Those killed in Ukraine by the Russian army.
They are united with each other, and with us, not only in their rejection of the war, but in their repudiation with the idea of "aligning" themselves with governments that oppress their people.
Amidst the confusion and chaos on both sides, they stand firm in their convictions: their struggle for autonomy, their repudiation of borders and their nation-states, and the respective oppression that only changes its flags.
Our duty is to support them to the best of our ability. A word, an image, a tune, a dance, a fist raised, an embrace — even from distant geographies — are also a form of support that will encourage their hearts.
To resist is to persist and to prevail. Let us support our relatives in their resistance, that is, in their struggle for life. We owe them this, and we owe it to ourselves.
SIXTH.- Therefore, we call upon [people in struggle], those members of the national and international Sexta who yet have not done so to manifest themselves — according to their calendars, geographies ways and possibilities — against the war, and in support of the Ukrainians and Russians who struggle in their geographies for a world with freedom.
We also appeal to unify and aid through financial support for the resistance in the territory known as Ukraine, in the accounts that will be indicated to us in due course.
As for the Sixth Commission of the EZLN, it is doing as it must, sending the small amount of help it can to those in Russia and Ukraine who are fighting against the war. Contacts have also been initiated with our relatives in SLUMIL K'AJXEMK'OP to create a common economic fund to support those in resistance.
Without bending, defiantly, we shout and call to clamor, demanding: Russian Army out of Ukraine!
The war must be stopped now. If it continues and, as expected, escalates, then perhaps there will be no one to account for the landscape after the battle.
From the mountains of the Mexican Southeast.
Subcomandante Insurgente Moisés. SupGaleano.
Sixth Commission of the EZLN2. March 2022.
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1- Zapatista Army of National Liberation.Mexico. Sixth Declaration of the Selva Lacandona.
“The EZLN will establish a policy of alliances with non-electoral organizations and movements which define themselves, in theory and practice, as being of the left, in accordance with the following conditions:
Not to make agreements from above to be imposed below, but to make accords to go together to listen and to organize outrage. Not to raise movements which are later negotiated behind the backs of those who made them, but to always take into account the opinions of those participating.
Not to seek gifts, positions, advantages, public positions, from the Power or those who aspire to it, but to go beyond the election calendar. Not to try to resolve from above the problems of our Nation, but to build FROM BELOW AND FOR BELOW an alternative to neoliberal destruction, an alternative of the left.
Yes to reciprocal respect for the autonomy and independence of organizations, for their methods of struggle, for their ways of organizing, for their internal decision making processes, for their legitimate representations. And yes to a clear commitment for joint and coordinated defense of national sovereignty, with intransigent opposition to privatization attempts of electricity, oil, water and natural resources.
In other words, we are inviting the unregistered political and social organizations of the left, and those persons who lay claim to the left and who do not belong to registered political parties, to meet with us, at the time, place and manner in which we shall propose at the proper time, to organize a national campaign, visiting all possible corners, in order to listen to and organize the word of our people. It is like a campaign, then, but very otherly, because it is not electoral.
2- To read the original in Mexican-Castilian, please refer to this entry on Enlace Zapatista.
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RJ Tubs 202 said: The smearing of conservatives as "domestic terrorist Nazi cult members" is often fueled by black supremacy
Black segregation is skyrocketing. More & more black segregation is occurring. Self-segregation
Being AA is "exceptional & powerful". How about Arab, Chinese, Hindu, and so on . . .
I am about to say something really racist.
It's ok to be white.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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RJ Tubs 202 said: The smearing of conservatives as "domestic terrorist Nazi cult members" is often fueled by black supremacy
You are doing your fellow domestic terrorist nazi cult conservatives a disservice.
What about the many conservatives involved in violent white supremacy, have you considered their feelings?
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: wolf8312]
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koods said: Putin used Ukraine’s “bio weapons labs” in part of his justification of the war just yesterday.
He's learned from the best! Not only has he got to stop Hitler at Munich but there are WMD as well!
But we can't know either way, can we?
In the Neocons case and these lunatics we now have running things, I do believe they are capable of producing and using bioweapons.
In their own words:
“Combat will likely take place in new dimensions: In space, cyber-space and perhaps the world of microbes… advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool”.
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wolf8312 said: Put all these things you mentioned together and what do you really have a Nazi or a conservative?
Ya know, it's getting harder and harder to tell the difference.
And I'm not watering anything down. The organizers of the trucker rallies are pretty explicitly white supremacists, and a number of them have given interviews with Nazi imagery and paraphernalia in the background. Presumably their living rooms.
More declarative statements (without any evidence or names of the Truckers) for the casual observers.
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Ya know, it's getting harder and harder to tell the difference.
As Colonel Macgregor (Russian shill I know) said this week the Nazi thing is a standard propaganda line for Neocons. It's a very lazy and tired accusation employed for utterly transparent reasons (DESTROY!).
If such Nazi flags and people happen to appear on the side of those your Neocon side is supporting this week?
You. Do. Not. Give. A. Shit.
Bj dichter is a pretty famous islamophobe and has Nazi paraphernalia hanging in his living room. Tamara lich is in the leadership of an explicitly secessionist party that blames immigrants and nonwhite people. I could keep going down the list, but I know the only reason you want examples of the racist fucks being racist fucks is because it's the new form of gish gallop.
Next, you assumption that I am a neocon is rock fucking stupid. But, even with that assumption, show me an example of "my side" waving Nazi flags? Even one.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: budmanman]
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RJ Tubs 202 said: The smearing of conservatives as "domestic terrorist Nazi cult members" is often fueled by black supremacy
Black segregation is skyrocketing. More & more black segregation is occurring. Self-segregation
Being AA is "exceptional & powerful". How about Arab, Chinese, Hindu, and so on . . .
I am about to say something really racist.
It's ok to be white.
But it used to be fucking awesome back when we ran everything. Now it’s just ok.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
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