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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #27682312 - 03/04/22 10:33 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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If the racist flags at the Canadian protests were proof that the Canadian protestors were all Nazis and racists, would the appearance of fascist flags at a Ukrainian protest prove that the Ukrainian protestors were also all Nazis and racists?




The nazi flags at the trucker protest weren't the reason they were decried as racists, the fact that the organizers of the protest had long histories of nativism, nationalism, and ethnically exclusionary statements and actions were the reason the protesters were considered racist. The nazi flags at their rallies were just icing on the white supremacist cake.

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In Russian cities, gangs of neonazis run around town with baseball bats and pipes, savagely beating up every non-Russian they see but especially nonwhite ones.




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More anti-immigrant than anything else, they've existed for quite some time. I don't know about them being neo nazis, but I wouldn't be surprised if they kinda fell into that ideology. I don't think they have historically had much association with nazis, besides being anti-immigrant.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #27682411 - 03/04/22 11:27 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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The nazi flags at the trucker protest weren't the reason they were decried as racists, the fact that the organizers of the protest had long histories of nativism, nationalism, and ethnically exclusionary statements and actions were the reason the protesters were considered racist. The nazi flags at their rallies were just icing on the white supremacist cake.




Rallies! Nice work with the connotations there!

Their Nazi rallies?

Nativism.
Nationalist.
Ethnically exclusionary statements.

Hum. Now this is suddenly starting to look like a very watered down version of Nazism.

Firstly, can we have some evidence and specific accusations against specific truckers here because I don’t know which of the truckers you are accusing of being Nazis.

Would waving a British flag and being proud of my country not make me a nationalist?

Are you saying this is the same thing as being a Nazi?

Would desiring stricter immigration (or nativism) controls make a person a Nazi?

Would making bigoted or as you say making ‘ethnically exclusive’ statements (you should have heard my grandmother) really make someone a Nazi?

The word Nazi (or white supremacist) is not a word that should be trivialised or used as a political weapon to go after the enemies of the far left (or whatever the hell it really is).

Put all these things you mentioned together and what do you really have a Nazi or a conservative?

Honestly I think by your definition Winston Churchill would have been a Nazi!

It kinda reminds me of when the far left accuse China of genocide and then when asked to provide proof will say ‘oh well it’s a cultural genocide’ and yet still go on calling it genocide!


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: wolf8312] * 2
    #27682470 - 03/04/22 12:30 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Put all these things you mentioned together and what do you really have a Nazi or a conservative?




Ya know, it's getting harder and harder to tell the difference.

And I'm not watering anything down. The organizers of the trucker rallies are pretty explicitly white supremacists, and a number of them have given interviews with Nazi imagery and paraphernalia in the background. Presumably their living rooms.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #27682487 - 03/04/22 12:48 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

AKA the sleeper of their truck.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: christopera]
    #27682535 - 03/04/22 01:43 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Lol nah, the organizers aren't truckers. The truckers are the GIs, not the generals.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #27682540 - 03/04/22 01:45 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

So much for the egalitarian movement that we all wanted it to be.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: christopera]
    #27682714 - 03/04/22 03:44 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I know, it's almost like it was astroturfed to shit and has next to no actual support (as evidenced by the collapse of the US trucker rallies)

How many weeks police crackdowns did it take to stop BLM protests? The truckers folded in less than a day.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #27682732 - 03/04/22 03:53 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I guess there is now an anti-Fauci-tied-in-with-anti-ukraine message some trucker convoys are trying to send.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna18716

"But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the group’s channels have turned to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, where conspiracy-minded thinking has flourished. While some group members have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion, QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized on a false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working together to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in Ukraine and that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right conspiracy theories."


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psicomb]
    #27682762 - 03/04/22 04:17 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Putin used Ukraine’s “bio weapons labs” in part of his justification of the war just yesterday.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psicomb]
    #27682780 - 03/04/22 04:24 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Trump and Putin working together to better the world, how wholesome.

Qanon evidently lives in a world of gumdrop rivers and rainbows.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: ONE OZ SLUG] * 1
    #27682833 - 03/04/22 04:59 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

People are so fucking dumb. All the endless piles of information out there and people still can’t put the pieces together and see that this is all part of trumps plan to save the children and arrest Hillary.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #27683043 - 03/04/22 07:56 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Putin used Ukraine’s “bio weapons labs” in part of his justification of the war just yesterday.




He's learned from the best! Not only has he got to stop Hitler at Munich but there are WMD as well!

But we can't know either way, can we?

In the Neocons case and these lunatics we now have running things, I do believe they are capable of producing and using bioweapons.

In their own words:

“Combat will likely take place in new dimensions: In space, cyber-space and perhaps the world of microbes… advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool”.

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Put all these things you mentioned together and what do you really have a Nazi or a conservative?




Ya know, it's getting harder and harder to tell the difference.

And I'm not watering anything down. The organizers of the trucker rallies are pretty explicitly white supremacists, and a number of them have given interviews with Nazi imagery and paraphernalia in the background. Presumably their living rooms.




More declarative statements (without any evidence or names of the Truckers) for the casual observers.

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Ya know, it's getting harder and harder to tell the difference.




As Colonel Macgregor (Russian shill I know) said this week the Nazi thing is a standard propaganda line for Neocons. It's a very lazy and tired accusation employed for utterly transparent reasons (DESTROY!).

If such Nazi flags and people happen to appear on the side of those your Neocon side is supporting this week?

You. Do. Not. Give. A. Shit.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: wolf8312] * 3
    #27683071 - 03/04/22 08:21 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Nazi or not if anyone needs help from the West it is Ukraine.

At least they don't run like little bitches like the Syrians and Afghanis.

Afghanis are about to eat the shit sandwich they deserve. They were given every opportunity and weapon to fight for their women and children and they folded like a bunch of god damn cowards.

Ukraine has put up a good fight. Fk'n proud of them. :rockon:

Slava Ukraini!

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: mycosis]
    #27683090 - 03/04/22 08:35 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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More declarative statements (without any evidence or names of the Truckers) for the casual observers.




We already have a thread where you can find all the evidence you need. The leaders of the Ottawa protests are hard core right wing white supremacists. It’s just a fact.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: mycosis]
    #27683092 - 03/04/22 08:37 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Afghanis are about to eat the shit sandwich they deserve. They were given every opportunity and weapon to fight for their women and children and they folded like a bunch of god damn cowards.





Yeah, it was those shit sandwich eating camel humping faggots who refused to fight who are to blame! Put me on the front line with an infidel army and I'd show those pussies how to fight for democratic American values!

Edit: Wait did you actually say: Nazi or not?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #27683093 - 03/04/22 08:38 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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More declarative statements (without any evidence or names of the Truckers) for the casual observers.




We already have a thread where you can find all the evidence you need. The leaders of the Ottawa protests are hard core right wing white supremacists. It’s just a fact.




No Koods you are propaganda!


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: wolf8312]
    #27683097 - 03/04/22 08:40 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

No he's right , I saw them too.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27683098 - 03/04/22 08:41 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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No he's right , I saw them too.




Case closed!


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: wolf8312]
    #27683105 - 03/04/22 08:47 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Hagerstown Maryland today where the truckers are tonight. Three percenter flag right there.



Pat King. Organizer of the Ottawa protest. Overt white supremacist.

https://twitter.com/thedudeseannn/status/1497438171486900230?s=21


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #27683111 - 03/04/22 08:53 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Hagerstown Maryland today where the truckers are tonight. Three percenter flag right there.



Pat King. Organizer of the Ottawa protest. Overt white supremacist.

https://twitter.com/thedudeseannn/status/1497438171486900230?s=21




Pictures of flags! Oh, the humanity.


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