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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #28788007 - 05/25/24 07:20 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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Russia is in the wrong on this one, dude.  There's no real dispute about that.  Being afraid of something as commonplace as radiation is not sufficient justification for letting evildoing continue.





A month or two ago indiscriminate Ukrainian artillery bombardment into Belgorod collapsed some random apartment building killing I believe around 25 people. There is no way this random apartment could have been construed as a military target - the Ukrainians just shoot randomly in the general direction of Belgorod to cause as much destruction as possible.

I didn't bother to make a post about it, because I knew nobody here would care. There is an obvious double standard when it comes to killing Russian civilians.

The Ukrainian government is like a rabid dog that needs to be put down. The faster, the better.

And they don't care about their own people either, otherwise they wouldn't be dragging people out of their homes to die in a trench in under a week. Thousands every month who don't want to fight but are nevertheless thrown into a trench on Zelensky's orders to die because these worthless people are too selfish and arrogant to negotiate with Russia an end to the war - something which they could do TODAY if they wanted.

Therefore, most Ukrainians save the brainwashed and ultra right-wing Azov types are significantly better off under Russian rule. That is perhaps the most ironic part out of all of it.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: chopstick]
    #28788014 - 05/25/24 07:27 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28788017 - 05/25/24 07:30 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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You realize that the USSR isn't a thing anymore, right?

The cold war... was.. over.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28788021 - 05/25/24 07:35 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

Was:cheers:

Maybe we should all go to ukraine.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 2
    #28788034 - 05/25/24 07:56 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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We need to allow Ukraine to finally fight back and rain hell on Russia (not on civilians, of course, because we aren't terrorists like Putin).  The time has finally come to stop worrying about Putin's nukes because he is being too much of a bully and needs to be stopped.




How, exactly, do you propose to "rain hell on Russia" while not targeting civilians?

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I'm pretty sure there was on average a significant mistake in translation on every other slide.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28788046 - 05/25/24 08:13 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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We need to allow Ukraine to finally fight back and rain hell on Russia (not on civilians, of course, because we aren't terrorists like Putin).  The time has finally come to stop worrying about Putin's nukes because he is being too much of a bully and needs to be stopped.




How, exactly, do you propose to "rain hell on Russia" while not targeting civilians?




Have you seen his posts about the Israel/Gaza conflict. He clearly doesn't give a shit about collective punishment.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28788048 - 05/25/24 08:14 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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You realize that the USSR isn't a thing anymore, right?
The cold war... was.. over.



Then why do you think Russia is entitled to Ukrainian land?

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28788060 - 05/25/24 08:22 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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You realize that the USSR isn't a thing anymore, right?
The cold war... was.. over.



Then why do you think Russia is entitled to Ukrainian land?




I don't believe that they are, and I don't believe I have ever said anything to give that impression.

Surely, it is an injustice in our world, that Russia has taken territory from Ukraine. That doesn't change the reality, and nothing short of putting NATO boots on the ground, will change that reality.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28788096 - 05/25/24 09:08 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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Ukraine will not be pushing Russia out of their country, anymore than Hamas pushing Israel out of Gaza. That is fairytale, loony toons thinking.




This is what gave me that impression.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28788108 - 05/25/24 09:19 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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Ukraine will not be pushing Russia out of their country, anymore than Hamas pushing Israel out of Gaza. That is fairytale, loony toons thinking.




This is what gave me that impression.




How on earth did you get that from that?

Please... connect these dots for me, bruv :lol:


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28788110 - 05/25/24 09:20 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

It means that you’ve accepted that Russia gets to steal more Ukrainian land. It means that you accept that Crimea was stolen by Russia.
I feel like they shouldn’t have been invaded and they shouldn’t give any more land to these people.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28788116 - 05/25/24 09:23 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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It means that you’ve accepted that Russia gets to steal more Ukrainian land. It means that you accept that Crimea was stolen by Russia.
I feel like they shouldn’t have been invaded and they shouldn’t give any more land to these people.




You don't understand... it doesn't matter what you FEEL. Russia will never give up Crimea, and to think otherwise is fairytale loony toons thinking...

Ukraine will be making concessions to Russia. The sooner they come to the negotiating table the better.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28788118 - 05/25/24 09:24 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

That’s why we should give Ukraine the ability to take it back.

If they want to do that, that isn’t sacrificing Ukrainian lives to achieve anything. That’s giving them the ability to take back what was stolen from them from a hostile invading force.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28788124 - 05/25/24 09:29 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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That’s why we should give Ukraine the ability to take it back.




Loony toons.

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If they want to do that, that isn’t sacrificing Ukrainian lives to achieve anything.




If they were volunteer fighters, I might be with you... but they aren't.. they are 40 year old conscripts, being sent into a fucking meat grinder.

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That’s giving them the ability to take back what was stolen from them from a hostile invading force.




If NATO doesn't get directly involved (which is the worst case scenario imagineable), Ukraine won't be taking anything back that Russia doesn't give them.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #28788354 - 05/26/24 05:43 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

Sadly, lifeiswhatyoumake may very well end up getting their wish, dumb and arrogant as it is. They are definitely going to care about the nuclear consequences if and when it happens though, since they will probably die.

If you look at the statements made by various world leaders in regards to the war, they are getting increasingly worrisome. Both Viktor Orban and Vucic of Serbia have been making alarming statements lately.

NATO is preparing for war with Russia and vice versa. The stakes are the future of the world order, after-all.

Thus, it is a high likelihood that it will indeed happen at this moment in time. I would guess the chance is greater than 50%.

That might change, might not. Guess we'll find out. If it does happen, we won't have time to argue over who is winning or who was right or wrong since we'll all be dead or newly minted refugees fleeing nuclear winter.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #28788360 - 05/26/24 05:49 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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You realize that the USSR isn't a thing anymore, right?

The cold war... was.. over.




I like the way you phrased, "...was.."


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28788366 - 05/26/24 06:01 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

All I know is Zuckerberg, and all the billionaires have been building their bomb bunkers for the occasion. I don't have a bomb bunker, so I wish the "tough guys" of the world would shut the fuck up.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28788368 - 05/26/24 06:02 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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I like the way you phrased, "...was.."




We had a good.. 30 years? :shrug:


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28788375 - 05/26/24 06:23 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

Space is the new "cold war"...this is way past Regans Strategic Defense Initiative.... the Star Wars program.

So much so, the US added a branch to the US military.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28788376 - 05/26/24 06:24 AM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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All I know is Zuckerberg, and all the billionaires have been building their bomb bunkers for the occasion. I don't have a bomb bunker, so I wish the "tough guys" of the world would shut the fuck up.



Rich people gonna do dumb rich people stuff regardless, not like their stupid bunker would sustain them more than a couple miserable years anyways lol


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