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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28627909 - 01/19/24 10:44 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

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Your statement shows a clear lack of understanding in how vaccines work, and how their efficacy weigns over time, hence the requirement of a booster.

Vaccines don't 'stop dead in their tracks' something like a virus, they support the immune system in creating antibodies to fend off the virus. What are we entering here, an introductory biology class?!




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What is this... Intro to Engrish?




You want to stay on track or is this the only distraction you've got other than to posit meth as the alternative to vaccines?

Vaccine efficacy wanes over time!


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28627910 - 01/19/24 10:44 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

The add-on seemed flippant and dismissive.

Are you talking about hate groups like oath keepers getting tracked by the FBI?
Because if people are making neo Nazism posts, I’m fine with that being censored and removed.

I was genuinely asking you for an example.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: sudly]
    #28627911 - 01/19/24 10:45 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

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Masking the symptoms doesn't cure the underlying ailment, and the long term consequences of meth far outweight the masked symptoms of an illness like a cold or flu.




I fucked my girlfriend for 3 solid days with almost no breaks... on meth.

Consequences be damned.




Kudos :thumbup: doesn't mean that meth doesn't mask the symptoms of a flu, or that meth is a viable replacement for a vaccine shot.




It doesn't "mask the symptoms" it prevents you from getting the flu. Read.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28627913 - 01/19/24 10:48 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

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I’m lining up for my 8th booster because the vaccine is safe, it’s effective, and it stops the virus dead in its tracks BAM!

That’s why I need another one  :flowstone:




Go back to the vaccine thread.
Because you know exactly why we need boosters.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28627915 - 01/19/24 10:51 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
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Masking the symptoms doesn't cure the underlying ailment, and the long term consequences of meth far outweight the masked symptoms of an illness like a cold or flu.




I fucked my girlfriend for 3 solid days with almost no breaks... on meth.

Consequences be damned.




Kudos :thumbup: doesn't mean that meth doesn't mask the symptoms of a flu, or that meth is a viable replacement for a vaccine shot.




It doesn't "mask the symptoms" it prevents you from getting the flu. Read.




This doesn't say meth prevents you from getting the flu, it says meth inhibits influenza A virus replication in vitro.
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In conclusion, the present study provides the first demonstration that meth inhibits influenza A virus replication in vitro, primarily via acting at the viral replication stage.




That means while methamphetamine may inhibit the influenza virus in a laboratory setting, this does not mean it is effective or safe as a flu prevention method in humans.

Meth isn't a flu preventative.. wtf has this discussion been derailed too?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: sudly]
    #28627916 - 01/19/24 10:55 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

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Science supports vaccines.  :shrug:




Yeah, ones that work.




Vaccines that stop transmission and contraction. You know, the age-old definition of a vaccine lol!

All vaccines are dangerous on some level. Some vaccines are so dangerous that they aren't even distributed anymore.




Vaccines don't stop contraction.. that's a fundamental misunderstanding on your part. They reduce the likelihood of contraction and the severity if contracted. How tf can you act like you don't know this?




No no, it’s not a misunderstanding on my part, it’s a misunderstanding of every knobheaded politician and media commentator that said that, I’m simply taking the piss, but I won’t be bothering with any more jabs until its proven safe.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28627917 - 01/19/24 10:57 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

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The add-on seemed flippant and dismissive.

Are you talking about hate groups like oath keepers getting tracked by the FBI?
Because if people are making neo Nazism posts, I’m fine with that being censored and removed.




Therein lies the problem.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #28627919 - 01/19/24 10:58 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

Actual terrorist groups that are plotting shit against the government. Yeah they should be tracked by the FBI because they’re the federal bureau of investigations! That’s what their job is. That’s what they’re supposed to be doing.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #28627921 - 01/19/24 11:05 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

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Science supports vaccines.  :shrug:




Yeah, ones that work.




Vaccines that stop transmission and contraction. You know, the age-old definition of a vaccine lol!

All vaccines are dangerous on some level. Some vaccines are so dangerous that they aren't even distributed anymore.




Vaccines don't stop contraction.. that's a fundamental misunderstanding on your part. They reduce the likelihood of contraction and the severity if contracted. How tf can you act like you don't know this?




No no, it’s not a misunderstanding on my part, it’s a misunderstanding of every knobheaded politician and media commentator that said that, I’m simply taking the piss, but I won’t be bothering with any more jabs until its proven safe.




The covid vaccines are now only the most tested vaccines in existence, but maybe a billion more tests will convince you otherwise?

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The Covid-19 vaccines are most the closely scrutinised vaccines human history for safety and done so in such large numbers. First there are the clinical trials which were done with each vaccine. These trials were done with approximately 40,000 people each.

All of the vaccines we are offering in Australia have been used for much longer than six months. They have been used in billions of people, across the globe. So we pretty much know what the safety profile is. There has been no history of long-term side effects from vaccines. What you see, largely is what you get.

https://mydr.com.au/tests-investigations/vaccines-for-covid-19-most-studied-in-history-dr-norman-swan/#:~:text=The%20Covid%2D19%20vaccines%20are,with%20approximately%2040%2C000%20people%20each.




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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: sudly] * 1
    #28627927 - 01/19/24 11:15 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

:whoawut:
No long term side effects?



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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: Stable Genius]
    #28627939 - 01/19/24 11:23 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)



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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28627949 - 01/19/24 11:30 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

Oh ok.



Trump may be Ukraines best hope for peace, how crazy is that!?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #28627950 - 01/19/24 11:31 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

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Imagine a president as bad as Trump being able to talk with Russia.



Source RT




Economically Biden is as shitty as trump, and socially trump is just less freedoms, hence why the tark te Russia bout it!




Less freedoms? I don't know about that. I suppose they have brought us back on abortion rights, but Biden has attempted to take us backwards on free speech rights. Free speech is obviously more important. Dems also have their own problems with issues of bodily autonomy (see vaccines).




How has Biden tried to take us backwards on free speech? What are you even talking about. Trump said the other day he wanted to revoke NBC and CNNs license because they didn’t play his speech. He supported firing football players who protested the anthem. Republicans are banning books. What did Biden do?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #28627952 - 01/19/24 11:33 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

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No long term side effects?





Those conditions are both short term.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #28627953 - 01/19/24 11:36 PM (7 days, 21 hours ago)

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Trump may be Ukraines best hope for peace, how crazy is that!?




That will allow Russia to continue a murder spree against the Ukrainian people. Here’s what they will do to the Ukrainian people and continue to do to them right now.

War crimes

Torture

Rape as a weapon.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28627954 - 01/19/24 11:42 PM (7 days, 20 hours ago)

What are you doing jumbling my post around for you horrible little carnt?

:crankey: I can make shitty posts without you helping ok?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #28627959 - 01/19/24 11:46 PM (7 days, 20 hours ago)

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No long term side effects?






Risks like myocarditis are in a similar vein to allergies, of those, any long term effects are usually down to having an associated medical history, like already having heart disease. That said, there's more than one vaccine and one may be more suitable for an individual with medical history.

Everything has a risk of allergic reactions, even vaccines, it doesn't mean your shellfish has long time side effects in any sense of the word. 

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Summary
mRNA vaccines

• A small increased risk of myocarditis and/or pericarditis has been observed in people
following vaccination with an mRNA vaccine compared with unvaccinated people.
• The risk was higher with Moderna original than with Pfizer original. There is no suggestion
that rates are higher following the latest vaccine formulations compared with the original
vaccines.

Non mRNA vaccines
• Myocarditis and/or pericarditis can occur after Novavax at a similar rate to the mRNA vaccine,
according to global reports. Myocarditis has been reported in approximately 4 in every
100,000 doses in Australia. Pericarditis has been reported in 13 in every 100,000 doses but
is more common in men aged 18-49 years with a rate of 270 per million doses.
• AstraZeneca was associated with a small increased risk of myocarditis and pericarditis,
though this risk appeared lower than with Moderna or Pfizer.

Precautions
• People with a history of any of the following conditions can receive a COVID-19 vaccine but
should consult a GP, immunisation specialist service or cardiologist prior to vaccination:
o Recent (i.e., within the last 3 months) myocarditis or pericarditis
o Acute rheumatic fever or acute rheumatic heart disease (i.e., with evidence of active
inflammation)
o Acute decompensated heart failure

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-01/covid-19-vaccination-guidance-on-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-after-covid-19-vaccines.pdf





The only precaution is to consult a GP in regard to which vaccine is most appropriate if you have a history of heart conditions.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: sudly] * 1
    #28627963 - 01/19/24 11:51 PM (7 days, 20 hours ago)

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No long term side effects?





Those conditions are both short term.




Pericarditis yes, Myocarditis can be ongoing.

My mother ended up with Pericarditis after the jab and I have talked to many people who know of someone that ended up with heart problems because of the jab.

It’s not unreasonable to say it caused a lot of problems.

Bring out a safe vaccine I’ll take it.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: sudly]
    #28627964 - 01/19/24 11:51 PM (7 days, 20 hours ago)

Ukraine, hitting an oil depot deep in Russian territory.
Those air defenses are really lax. Can’t wait until those F-16s :borfase:


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.b [Re: sudly]
    #28627973 - 01/19/24 11:59 PM (7 days, 20 hours ago)

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The only precaution is to consult a GP in regard to which vaccine is most appropriate if you have a history of heart conditions.




The jab caused the heart conditions in people who never had a bad heart ffs 🤦‍♂️

And those numbers are crap, there were that many cases of heart problems the Qld government created a special form for Drs to report them!!

https://www.health.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0030/1128369/carditis-reporting-form.pdf


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