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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28211322 - 03/02/23 05:05 PM (10 months, 21 days ago)

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It's a rope-a-dope, bro.  They're just lulling Ukraine into a false sense of security, and when the time is right, they'll unleash their super elite forces to take over the whole of Ukraine in one night.

Mark my words...



I literally thought that in the first weeks of the war




Ukraine CAN'T win, so I don't know what all the cheerleading is about... its pathetic. Ukraine is an excuse to give the military industrial complex a blow job, at the expense of Ukrainians... and they haven't even begun to pay the dear price that they eventually will have to pay.

It is harming our relationship with every country in Europe... we are paying for this war in many ways also...


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #28211370 - 03/02/23 05:44 PM (10 months, 21 days ago)

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This guy just made a video about you






Call me a xenophobe... I can't do the accent, but I gave it a few minutes to see who he was talking about, and to say I like Stalin... is ludicrous. He was probably worse than Hitler.

I despise authoritarianism and centralized power... so..

Honestly... nope lmao!

Also, I don't like what's happening in Ukraine, but I understand why it's happening, and it seems to me to be a situation that was poised for disaster, with or without an invasion. This is probably the worst case scenario.. exacerbated by the US.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Metoo]
    #28211388 - 03/02/23 05:52 PM (10 months, 21 days ago)

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I'm not sure why you think Ukraine now has a numerical advantage in tanks, IFV's, AD systems, artillery and MLRS. As far as I know that is not true. Since the start of the war Russia has had a 10:1 advantage in artillery compared to Ukraine and I see no reason why that would have changed. Russia carries out dozens of Lancet strikes on Ukrainian artillery positions every week (videos are posted on telegram). Ukraine doesn't have something like that to respond with. They also hit anti-air systems, tanks, radars, and other high priority targets constantly.





I do not think that Ukraine has numerical advantage in the equipment nor did I say so. What I said is that Ukrainians now have more of the listed types of armaments than in February 2022 and Russia has less thereof than in February 2022. This comment was in response to your:

"Time is on Russia's side and they're not in a hurry"

I interpret the trend of Ukraine having more gear than before and Russia having less as time being on Ukrainian side and this is my point of disagreement with your missive




In world War 2, Russia didn't have enough guns for all of their soldiers... they sent them anyway, and told them to pick up a gun off their dead and continue fighting.

Related and funny:



When all else fails, Russia may just use the Zap Brannigan strategy and send wave after wave of their men... which are in no short supply.. until they win. It's a real David and Goliaths, plus the mafia and nukes... type of story,,,


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #28212178 - 03/03/23 08:23 AM (10 months, 20 days ago)

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Oh how disgusting Zelensky is touching Joe's cow nipples



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Best meme ever. I love Joe's facial expression lmaooo


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #28213756 - 03/04/23 08:49 AM (10 months, 19 days ago)

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Every aspect of the space race aside from landing a person on the moon




Crimea... lmao...


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #28213911 - 03/04/23 10:21 AM (10 months, 19 days ago)

That's great. Last I knew, the US was piggybacking on Russia to get to the ISS, because NASA didn't have it in the budget to send our own people.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #28214831 - 03/04/23 07:53 PM (10 months, 19 days ago)

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Saw a report about the 50,000 Russian prisoners who have been sent to the front lines. Dying at an absolutely insane rate and the Russia population thinks it’s a great way to get rid of prisoners





The POW food is better than the food in my county jail.. Wtf..


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28215489 - 03/05/23 08:38 AM (10 months, 18 days ago)

You're Russian?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28216337 - 03/05/23 06:18 PM (10 months, 18 days ago)

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You're Russian?




Да, товарищ.




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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28216339 - 03/05/23 06:19 PM (10 months, 18 days ago)

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Desperate times require desperate measures. Russians welding 70 year old naval cannons on shitty tank treads.





Just lol.




I think it's innovative. It's the kind of thing I would do in my back yard, and be quite proud.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28216377 - 03/05/23 06:47 PM (10 months, 18 days ago)

The United States clearly has more capability to produce military vehicles and equipment than Russia, or any other nation on the planet. We spend a trillion fucking dollars to keep it that way.

It's pretty fucking stupid.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #28216410 - 03/05/23 07:04 PM (10 months, 18 days ago)

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The GOP loves wars and wartime spending at least as much as the Dems so jokes on him.  I hope he isn't holding his breath.




I dunno... I think there are less hawks on the GOP side than on the left. I'm not just saying that to be contrarian either. It seems to me that the Libertarians have had an effect on the party, on this front.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #28216432 - 03/05/23 07:16 PM (10 months, 18 days ago)

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Military spending won't stop, military aid will. Well go back to piling tanks in the desert.

The GOP has a vested interest in the success of Putin, it would vindicate their beliefs about strongman authoritarian rule.

If they go to war, it's gonna probably be another round in the middle east.




We still have 900 troops in Syria... We occupy 1/3 of the country. Shouldn't be too difficult.

I wonder what's going to come of this Nordstream pipeline situation. It was essentially an act of war. I wonder how many people are ok with our government running around doing shit like that. I mean... if it wasn't the Ukrainians who bombed it *wink wink*.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: sudly]
    #28216498 - 03/05/23 08:03 PM (10 months, 18 days ago)

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The GOP loves wars and wartime spending at least as much as the Dems so jokes on him.  I hope he isn't holding his breath.




I dunno... I think there are less hawks on the GOP side than on the left. I'm not just saying that to be contrarian either. It seems to me that the Libertarians have had an effect on the party, on this front.




I mean, historically I don't know how you could come to that conclusion.

e.g.
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Yesterday marked the 15th anniversary of the start of the Iraq War. There will be many incisive retrospectives of this disastrous decision and its legacy in lives lost, trillions wasted, insecurity fomented, and lessons not yet learned.

What I want to offer is a quick reminder of who voted for it, who didn’t, and who’s still here.

Although the war would not begin until March 2003, the House passed the Authorization of the Use of Military Force (AUMF) for Iraq in October 2002. The vote was 296 to 133. 215 Republicans and 81 Democrats voted for it. 126 Democrats, 6 Republicans, and 1 Independent (Sanders) voted against it.

https://jonathancohn.medium.com/iraq-war-15-who-voted-for-it-who-didnt-and-where-are-they-now-595d1654bf9e







Historically, that has been the case. Nowadays, I think Trump was less hawkish than Clinton would have been. In fact, I am utterly certain of it.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: sudly]
    #28216674 - 03/05/23 10:02 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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Clinton probably would have done the same as Biden or continued Obamas legacy and left the status quo as is imo.

Trump had John Bolton as his National Security Advisor, a man who has never met a war he didn't like. Trump increased drone strikes, nearly started WW3 by assasinating Qasem Soleimani etc.

Again I don't see how you can be certain of your speculation here.




I think Republicans have more of a hardon for China, and Dems for Russia. I personally felt that Clinton wanted to go to war with Russia, and I know many others agreed, but that's just speculation at this point.

Personally, if you think Trump was more of a hawk than Clinton would have been... Well, that just seems too preposterous of an assertion for me to even address.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: sudly]
    #28216734 - 03/05/23 11:42 PM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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I mean you haven't addressed it, you just said dems have a hard on for Russia.

If Putin invaded Ukraine while Trump was in office, how do you think he would have responded?




I'm no fan of Trump, I just want to get that out of the way. I think he would have handled things in a much more sane manner... Not sending $100 Billion to Ukraine, or funding a pension fund for Ukrainians.. I mean, it's just absurd what's going on.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28217065 - 03/06/23 09:22 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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Clinton probably would have done the same as Biden or continued Obamas legacy and left the status quo as is imo.

Trump had John Bolton as his National Security Advisor, a man who has never met a war he didn't like. Trump increased drone strikes, nearly started WW3 by assasinating Qasem Soleimani etc.

Again I don't see how you can be certain of your speculation here.




I think Republicans have more of a hardon for China, and Dems for Russia. I personally felt that Clinton wanted to go to war with Russia, and I know many others agreed, but that's just speculation at this point.

Personally, if you think Trump was more of a hawk than Clinton would have been... Well, that just seems too preposterous of an assertion for me to even address.




We are sending one or two hundred troops to Taiwan.
Not sure what the proper response is. Do we worry about a real global conflict, or make jokes like, China probably doesn't have a very big army anyway.




The correct response is to make jokes. Worrying only harms the worrier. So, let's have them then!

China needs to get rid of some of their young men anyway... After all those years of drowning little girls in the river..


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #28217069 - 03/06/23 09:23 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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I personally felt that Clinton wanted to go to war with Russia, and I know many others agreed, but that's just speculation at this point.




 
    It was just speculation back then too .




True. I say it's speculation at this point, because she never became president. I'm thankful for that.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2]
    #28217088 - 03/06/23 09:37 AM (10 months, 17 days ago)

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Ya but you got the war with Russia anyway , they chose it for you , a long time ago .




We did see it coming, though. Many of us.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: ONE OZ SLUG] * 1
    #28218191 - 03/06/23 10:30 PM (10 months, 16 days ago)

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Throwing a meat wall of humans at the enemy is Russia's specialty. And they've got plenty of it.




You're right, it certainly is. I call it the Zap Brannigan strategy:



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