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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28480058 - 09/23/23 02:23 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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sudly said: No one is winning this shit show other than the people who sold their weapons.
Well, Russia said they'd takeover Ukraine within days. It's been wayyyyy longer than that now. In fact, Ukraine has pushed Russia back from their initial push. So, it seems like Ukraine is winning this war currently.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28480100 - 09/23/23 03:10 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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sudly said: If I cut your legs off but you blow my arms up, neither of us are winners.
That isn't how you decide if someone wins or loses a war.
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sudly said: Individual battles may lean in either direction, but 'winning' is only possible if it puts an and to the war
Makes sense.
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sudly said: , and the cost of such a victory for either side is already a loss.
Mmmmm no. Fighting for your own life doesn't automatically equate to a loss just because you're fighting. That's the way life works: if a bully attacks you you have to fight back.
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sudly said: If this all ends you can call one side the victor, but they've both lost already.
No. If Ukraine wins then they have something to be thankful for, something that equates to a big fat WIN: they won't become an authoritarian extension of Russia/Putin. It doesn't matter how many people lose their legs for that to happen, it's worth it.
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sudly said: And after this war there's just guerilla warfare, terrorism and poverty and the abject horror of the aftermath of war to contend with.
so just normal things Russia always does, got it.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: gopher]
#28480108 - 09/23/23 03:20 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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Its definitely western powers winning the cold war though, all Putin has left is nukes, I wish that guy who was marching on Moscow didnt turn back, that was quite the adventure to read about, he had to know hell be assisnated if he quit
Based on the poor quality and performance of Russia's military so far with their attempted takeover of Ukraine, I wager their nukes probably aren't as good as people think they are, either.
Yea, that was crazy with what Prighozin did. I don't think it really matters if he succeeded or not, he seems just as bad as Putin. Perhaps the extra instability and delay it would cause within Russia would have been beneficial to the West, though.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28480118 - 09/23/23 03:28 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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Sure. In a perfect world there would be no violence.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28480160 - 09/23/23 04:01 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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sudly said: The fact is there's extreme violence happening right now in this war, and a victory for Ukraine appears as fanciful thinking.
I don't think it's possible for a war to not have extreme violence. If it didn't it wouldn't be a war. You don't seem to be paying attention to the meta of all of this, dude. Russia said it'd take days to takeover Ukraine, and it's been way longer! In fact, Ukraine has pushed back Russia's initial advance! Do you understand this fact, yes or no? It's a clear and obvious fact that supports the idea that Ukraine is winning.
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sudly said: I don't think Ukraine can 'win', but I also don't think Russia can claim any kind of victory given the cost of life and economic loss they've endured. They can't take over Ukraine without decades of guerilla warfare either.
Why are you putting "win" in quotes?
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sudly said: I just don't think anyone using words like winning or victory should be taken seriously when talking about this war, especially if they only talk of individual battles or losses on a single side.
I don't think you are at the intellectual level to be having this conversation. Words like "winning" and "victory" are common buzzwords when talking about any war.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28480196 - 09/23/23 04:45 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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Why did you shorten "special military operation" into an acronym?
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: Russia said it'd take days to takeover Ukraine, and it's been way longer! In fact, Ukraine has pushed back Russia's initial advance! Do you understand this fact, yes or no?
Answer my question.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: sudly]
#28480212 - 09/23/23 05:01 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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I understand completely that you don't think either side can win military, you've repeated yourself at least four times in the past 15 minutes. 
I do find it extremely odd your comment you made:
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I just don't think anyone using words like winning or victory should be taken seriously when talking about this war
Just for that comment alone I think it shows you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm done conversing with you on this topic.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: chopstick]
#28487691 - 09/30/23 12:19 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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chopstick said: But nobody here really cares about Ukraine or all the thousands of people getting snatched up off the streets and out of their homes and made to fight and die in a doomed war. It's all about feeling superior to Russia, even if it's just a delusion written in Ukrainian blood. Truly there is no limit to either human hypocrisy or pettiness.
   
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#28493234 - 10/05/23 03:32 PM (3 months, 21 days ago) |
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Cool, I'm glad the people and Enlil and me agree on this.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28495428 - 10/07/23 12:19 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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If you want to talk about the Israel/Palestine recent conflict/war then do it in the appropriate thread: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28495425
Let's stop getting off topic. This is the Ukraine war thread.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28495456 - 10/07/23 12:56 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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I didn't even read your post, I just replied to you because you were the last person to comment on this thread.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28496934 - 10/08/23 06:42 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Of course, but he’s objecting to being called a racist for saying Islam is violent, or implying that Muslims can’t live anywhere without being violent.
Islam is definitely violent. Look at what happens every time someone burns a Quran. The Muslims act like they just got their dicks chopped off when that happens.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: SirTripAlot] 1
#28500171 - 10/11/23 01:57 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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chopstick is the type of person to make big claims with no evidence. This was obvious in all the COVID threads they participated in. I called them out multiple times and they never even attempted to give me evidence of their claims. SMH. Why would they behave differently here or in any other topic?
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.sr [Re: chopstick]
#28504384 - 10/14/23 01:46 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: And he's banned Pro-Palestine protests, Lolz.
As he should. Suicide bombing attacks are greatly reduced in countries that have kicked out Palestinians. They are home to terror groups that don't deserve to live amongst the rest of us civilized people.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.sr [Re: chopstick]
#28504723 - 10/14/23 07:11 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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chopstick, you are just a simple troll. You haven't earned the privilege of a mature discussion with me. Until you disprove your pattern of making huge claims without evidence then don't expect me to change my mind about you.
Every post you make is so long and full of lies. This makes it impossible to converse with you.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.sr [Re: sudly]
#28504735 - 10/14/23 07:19 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Since the 50,000 hamas individuals make 0.02% of the 2.1 million population of gaza, yeah this'll be fucked. Glad to see there's one case you're not pro collective punishment.
sudly, you must have dropped out of school before the third grade.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.sr [Re: Stable Genius]
#28504745 - 10/14/23 07:22 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I'm just speaking facts and I back them up with evidence. 
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.sr [Re: Milleresque]
#28505458 - 10/15/23 12:02 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: And he's banned Pro-Palestine protests, Lolz.
As he should. Suicide bombing attacks are greatly reduced in countries that have kicked out Palestinians. They are home to terror groups that don't deserve to live amongst the rest of us civilized people.
Hey, didn’t you go out of the way tell off an autistic child who couldn’t hold his water in any longer? You’re that person, right?
I didn't "tell him off." I told him you can't whip out your dick and pee on the sidewalk in broad daylight with people walking by him. I'm not sure how that's relevant here? Please explain yourself.
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Cool…I know what to make of your aforementioned belief: nasty racism. Do you peek through your windows just in case a child rides by on a bike chewing gum too?
Xenophobia is mmm quite the character trait
If you think racism is the driving force for my comment then you are wrong, my friend. I don't care what race a certain group is as long as they harbor terrorists/hate groups throughout history. I don't support a group of people like that. Terror groups are not something that can live with civilized people. End of story. The fact you're bringing race into this is just a weak attempt to make me look bad.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.sr [Re: Kryptos]
#28505471 - 10/15/23 12:17 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Kryptos said: A position that is simultaneously admirable-sounding and so non-specific as to be applicable to any group of people anywhere.
Very nice.
It's like supporting Freedom.
It's very specific: if a group of people is known to harbor terrorists then then the whole group is a problem. End of story.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread.sr [Re: Kryptos]
#28505507 - 10/15/23 12:53 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Hamas recorded their actions and partied over kidnapping civilians and parading their beaten/dead bodies on the streets. They are the current terrorist group. They deserve no sympathy.
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