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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27843396 - 06/30/22 06:02 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Enlil said:
The whole invasion is a war crime, dude. Wtf are you even talking about?



There are legal experts who disagree with you.

Even John Bolton said "I think the pre-emptive use of force against a real threat to the United States or its friends and allies in order to prevent devastation of innocent civilians is also justifiable.”



Ahh yes, the real threat to Russia - Ukraine


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27844425 - 06/30/22 11:49 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Ahh yes, the real threat to Russia - Ukraine



No, not Ukraine.  NATO in Ukraine.



Ahh the best way to deal with a country who wants to enter a pact that would defend against being invaded... Invade them!


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27844479 - 07/01/22 12:52 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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As other have already shown, NATO is an offensive organization.



Oh okay so you think that NATO is planning to invade Russia? Lmao


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: redrocket]
    #27844524 - 07/01/22 02:15 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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And in the west you are not allowed to critisize jews, even when they bomb Palestinian children the west keeps their mouth shut.




Since like every edgelord says this exact combination of shit, and antisemitism is just about the most widely accepted form of any -ism I'm pretty sure you can.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat d. [Re: iggyhiggy]
    #27849972 - 07/05/22 05:09 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Lol I love when people state that like it's some important relevant fact... yet I never hear those same people be like "The black person named obama" or the "white christian named Biden"


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27850683 - 07/05/22 04:10 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Lol the only new order they'll be part of is being China's bitch, they're far too weak of an economy - Italy is more powerful - and furthermore they're not nearly diversified enough.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: christopera]
    #27852679 - 07/06/22 08:31 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

They must've developed them in cahoots with the organ harvesting industry over there :highdog:


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: christopera]
    #27852710 - 07/06/22 08:50 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I donno asian peeps love their karaoke


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mycot]
    #27855040 - 07/08/22 04:10 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Both books are - and a good example of its tenets successfully being put into play would be the Iraq war - in which strongly a mixture of the theories of Clausewitz, and Schlieffen .. aka the theorists whose thoughts were formulated into blitzkrieg.

Russian and Chinese thought were also strongly influenced by Clausewitz.. Mao Zedong held a seminar on Clausewitz in 1939 and Lenin formulated nearly all Russian military theory off of it in 1917


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27855514 - 07/09/22 01:25 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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varoan said:
It seems the "fake news" was him calling it a war.



No, it was in the article shivas posted.


Let me ask everyone (anyone) a question:

If Russia started taking over Latin American countries via forceful regime change, and then decided Canada's Government was next, but Canada didn't want Russia forcefully taking over their Government, would it be ok for the US to help Canada fight Russian aggression, or is Canada on its own?



I'm not sure if you think this is a parallel to Ukraine - but the US has mutual defense treaties with almost every country in the America's via article 3 of the OAS - and Canada via NATO... Only Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua pretty much aren't party. Which ironically are the countries with the most similar governance to Russia.

If you want a parallel - it would be US aggression in one of these countries:

Armenia
Belarus
Kazakhstan
Kyrgyzstan
Russia
Tajikistan

Parties to the CSTO... Which you might note - does not include Ukraine.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27856325 - 07/09/22 05:34 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I'm not sure if you think this is a parallel to Ukraine...



No, I'm not looking to draw a parallel.  Can you answer the question?

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Awful dumb metaphor.



No, I'm not looking for a metaphor.  Can you answer the question?



You literally drew a parallel 4 posts later -_-

As my answer displays, there is none.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #27856601 - 07/09/22 08:38 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Sort of, pretty close.
I think Russia is not totally to blame for this conflict :shrug: and I guess I'm getting some sort of perverse pleasure in watching things not work out the way the U.S. government planned.
I understand it's probably not the correct view as ordinary people are suffering but fuck it man I'm over their shit.



Re-normalization of wars of conquest is the real outcome

But I get that it's easy to feel that way when you sit pretty on your isolated island protected - essentially - only by US hegemony


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27856756 - 07/09/22 10:21 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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pfffft New Zealand sits beside us, David Lange told the U.S. to keep your nuclear equipped ships out of our waters, nobody invaded them.

The sooner we do something like that and shake the U.S. loose the better. We don't need or want your guns.



Is new zealand supposed to mean something lolol

I'm guessing you don't speak for your govt cuz they buy almost all of their military equipment from the US

The core of the matter is without the US' influence on your side, there's very little to keep China at bay in that region.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: koods]
    #27857233 - 07/10/22 11:45 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

China ass kissing is cool and all until they export their brand of authoritarian mass censorship and control to your neighborhood


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27857237 - 07/10/22 11:46 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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More anti China lunacy, do you still check under the bed for reds too? How many countries has China invaded, how many countries has the U.S. invaded?



About exactly as many as Australia has by their side :^)


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27858213 - 07/11/22 05:18 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

:lolsy:

And when was the last time the PRC ruled Taiwan


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27858835 - 07/11/22 03:04 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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:lolsy:

And when was the last time the PRC ruled Taiwan




Technically never. When the revolution happened that’s where all the nationalists fled.



Exactly

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Did you know the US is threatening to take Taiwan from China?




Nope. Hadn't heard that. What's the source?



Here and here.



Oh so the US would defend an innocent entity that's being threatened by a country that has never, ever had sovereignty over it's land?

And that's "taking Taiwan from China" to you? Lmao.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27858837 - 07/11/22 03:06 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Well you just posted a falsehood so I guess you're cool with going to jail yes?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27859017 - 07/11/22 05:26 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Well you just posted a falsehood so I guess you're cool with going to jail yes?



What 'falsehood' is that (people always accuse me of this, but never back it up)?



You claimed that the US is threatening to take Taiwan from China

Which is patently untrue on both the counts that Taiwan doesn't, and has never belonged to the PRC - so it can never be taken from them,

And stating intent to defend said political entity on Taiwan is not 'posessing' it - rather it is the opposite in that they are preventing a political entity with an inferior claim from conquering it. Nor is that remotely what either of the links you provided say.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: falcon]
    #27859254 - 07/11/22 08:38 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

It's in vogue to kiss the ass of dictatorships these days

cuz US bad


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