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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
    #27671674 - 02/24/22 12:32 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Given the terrible choice, i would feel more confident with Trump as the POTUS in this situation. Bidens drooling-tarded inability to speak feels very unreliable and unsecure lol. He sounds like hes going to pull a Stalin and suddenly run and hide in disbelief and shock



If Trump was president he'd either have left NATO and allied with Putin, or would've launched nukes at them by now


if trump was president we would not be having this conversation. Like i said biden is weak president an its time for china an Russia to make moves while they have the chance.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #27672273 - 02/24/22 08:38 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Watch "The REAL Reason Putin is Invading Ukraine" on YouTube


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: ArchStanton66] * 1
    #27672718 - 02/25/22 07:15 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Ukrainians mounting a respectable defense right now compared to the odds they are currently facing. Seems that the Russians are, for the time being, mounting as light of an offensive as possible as they move to encircle Kyiv (where I assume the end goal would be to install a pro-Russian government).

Could be to keep from making a bad situation worse as far as international community sanctions are concerned in keeping Nord Stream 2 / SWIFT access viable in the nearer term.

Not even certain if removal from the SWIFT system is actually on the table given the reliance on Russian oil/nat gas in the EU. Nothing like knee-capping yourself with reliance on foreign energy from, of all people, Vladimir Putin.


im hopping Ukraine can hold Russia off until other countries are able to step in an try an make Russia back off.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #27672722 - 02/25/22 07:20 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Given the terrible choice, i would feel more confident with Trump as the POTUS in this situation. Bidens drooling-tarded inability to speak feels very unreliable and unsecure lol. He sounds like hes going to pull a Stalin and suddenly run and hide in disbelief and shock




WTF!??  Stalin can be criticized for a lot of things, but running and hiding was never on the list. I would ask you to explain that comment, but it's probably not worth anyone's time.

If Trump was President, the Generals would be explaining to him, the way you talk to a child, that no we aren't going to assist with the invasion to liberate Ukraine. Trump has been cheerleading Putin on this, and he's trying to backtrack now, but even most Republicans are wishing he would just shut up.


face it if trump was in office Putin would of never attempted this. Putin knows trump is fast to respond an is as calculated as Putin is an they had a mutual respect.

After seeing how biden handled Afghanistan Putin seen weakness from American an seen the opportunity to gear up for an invasion.  He knows biden is slow to respond an hes weak on top of that.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: theRealrollforever] * 1
    #27672936 - 02/25/22 10:57 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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It's hilarious how you infer the generals WOULDNT BE TALKING to biden the exact same way.


these generals told biden the right way to evacuate Afghanistan. Instead he ignored there advice an ended up making huge mess🙄. There is no excuses for how bad of a fuck up it was.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psilynut2] * 2
    #27672974 - 02/25/22 11:24 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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face it if trump was in office Putin would of never attempted this. Putin knows trump is fast to respond an is as calculated as Putin is an they had a mutual respect.

After seeing how biden handled Afghanistan Putin seen weakness from American an seen the opportunity to gear up for an invasion.  He knows biden is slow to respond an hes weak on top of that.





      What happened to us not being the worlds police ?  I get you will blame Biden for literally anything anyone else chooses to do all on their own ,  but why do you think we should be part of this at all ? Why should Americans die ?    Why do you want to see American soldiers die over this  is what I mean ?


like i said before if trump was in office putin an china would not be making moves like they are doing now.

Trump made it very clear to Russia if you invaded Ukraine we would hit Moscow. Then he told the leaders of china the same thing he will hit them were it hurts.

This was a good deterrent so neither County would want to call his bluff.

What has biden done besides run his mouth?

-Afghanistan shit show.

-shut down our oil production so we rely on other countries an put 1000s of people out of work.

-shity economy you are paying way more for everything.

-weak policys

-weak borders

-his biggest mistake never under estimate your enemies. He talk about how Russia is nothing to worry about an we should all focus on green energy an bla bla.


Trump

-good economy

-No wars when he was in office

-good policys that dint try an kill our economy

-was fast at getting a vaccine made for covid


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: theRealrollforever] * 1
    #27672980 - 02/25/22 11:30 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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The thesis I see from a lot of Republicans is that by virtue of Trump being in office, none of this would have ever happened because Trump is just so powerful that he doesn't even need to do anything, he would have just prevented it.

Of course, he does need to plant his ass in the right chair. Apparently, he does not have that same power in the wrong chair.

A bit like the pope.



I think a big part of why Putin is emboldened was the whole oil thing.  I'm not claiming to be an authority and I'm sure I will be informed how I am wrong, but gas has been steady climbing for the two years since biden took office.  At the same time we have put a "halt/freeze" on domestic energy drilling due to "climate concerns".  I am more concerned with the fact we have to buy oil from a dictator that is leaning towards starting the Third World War opposed to climate changes. Every dollar we have to send to Russia for oil is essentially weakening us and strengthening them.

Not to mention it looks like they will be allying with China pretty soon outright.  For a Third World War I believe China has to be involved, and now they are.  If there's a perfect storm, it's probably having to go up against the Chinese economy and the Russian military while being unable to really hurt their economy due to the sheer dependency we have on essential goods from those countries

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #27673277 - 02/25/22 04:12 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Russia's not going to reclaim Ukraine.  They haven't even claimed the separatist regions, just recognized them as independent.




They're most likely going to further ruin the country and that's about it. Ukrainians don't want their country split, even in the east.

Maybe Russia could stop supporting a minority in a civil war, perhaps that'd help seeing as they're so concerned about peace?


putin wants to bring Ukraine to its knees so they think they have no other choice but to join Russia.
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just wait till America gets a little power hungry and starts invading its neighboors.


It'll make what Putin is doing look like child play




We have to wait for China's turn.


china is making moves as we speak they are sending ships out twords Taiwan. The question is when will they choose to start a conflict. I hope nothing happens.  But china thinks taiwan has allways been part of china an are dead set on bringing them back in.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27675313 - 02/27/22 10:35 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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This is a really interesting interview of Scott Ritter by Richard Medhurst.  Probably too long for most here to watch, but Scott really has an interesting perspective on the conflict. 

I'm posting this because he talks about America's assurances not to expand NATO Eastward (from 33:27-34:11).




very interesting video


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27675314 - 02/27/22 10:41 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Can you post where you found the President didn't give his negotiators the power to negotiate?

You may be right, I'm just curious to see how you reached your conclusion.




https://www.npr.org/2022/02/07/1078929982/a-look-at-the-debate-over-nato-expansion-eastward-thats-at-the-heart-of-conflict
This one said James Baker floated the idea to Gorbachev in return for German unification. Gorbachev said he would think about it. When Baker got home HW Bush said no way.


that is pretty dam interesting.  Thank you for the post.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Mach z 800] * 1
    #27675333 - 02/27/22 10:58 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Its pretty crazy watching those mig29s whizzing on by.

Watch "Russian KA-52 Alligator Shot Down By Ukraine" on YouTube
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: oursoulsinmotion]
    #27678015 - 03/01/22 09:19 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

The reason Russia is going after Ukraine is because of there white supremacy they have..there is videos of them treating Africans differently.

They are allowed white people to leave the country first an forcing Africans to leave last .


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Psicomb]
    #27678290 - 03/01/22 01:36 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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The reason Russia is going after Ukraine is because of there white supremacy they have..there is videos of them treating Africans differently.

They are allowed white people to leave the country first an forcing Africans to leave last .





Mach, dude :facepalm:, do you even understand what comes out of your mouth half the time?



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The reason Russia is going after Ukraine is because of there white supremacy they have..there is videos of them treating Africans differently.

They are allowed white people to leave the country first an forcing Africans to leave last .





Mach, dude :facepalm:, do you even understand what comes out of your mouth half the time?


well its true they are no better than American so in away its a good thing Russia is doing this. Those citizens from Africa should be a priority to protect.  Instead they are being segregated .


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods] * 1
    #27679154 - 03/02/22 04:38 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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No excuse for what? The U.S. government meddling in other countries affairs? I agree.

Also, I still think Putin’s a cunt and he should not have invaded Ukraine.




This has nothing to do with the US. This is about Putin’s imperialistic desires


putin is fighting nazis an white supremacist so in a way i think what hes doing is a good thing. Like i said they are treating people from Africa in Ukraine like slaves we cant have this.

Watch "Black Africans escaping war in Ukraine denied Entry into Poland." on YouTube


Watch "Fleeing African and Indian students face racism at Ukraine border" on YouTube


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #27679244 - 03/02/22 07:11 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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So if I'm shelling Hitler, but I miss and explode your mothers skull like a grape right in front of you.. all good? Can you show me which ones they are shelling and shooting that were the Nazis? Can you point me to their Auschwitz? There are racist organizations in the US like the KKK and Planned Parenthood, time for China to invade? Joseph Herzl's Zionists, perfect excuse to murder women and children en masse, eh? Two wrongs don't make a right, and making weak unjustified comparisons will never make you right either.


Watch "Inside A White Supremacist Militia in Ukraine" on YouTube


This what putin is trying to stop we must stick up for the Africans stranded in Ukraine.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27679925 - 03/02/22 04:56 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Why are the black people running from the Russians that are there to help them ?
    Honestly though you should be banned to the conspiracy forum .




:joneswtf:

Because he quotes Time Magazine?

:yougoodjob:


dam right the times are accurate as it gets.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27686060 - 03/07/22 09:24 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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At this point I can't see anything that Russia can gain that comes close to what they are going to lose. The extent of the sanctions have gone beyond anyone's expectations. Russians with money are leaving the country. The war is not popular at home. NATO is going to expand. Germany just doubled their defense budget. Putin is doing a better job of destroying Russia than destroying Ukraine. It's going to require a lot more repression at home for him to retain his power. Who would have dreamed he could miscalculated this that badly?


Russia has all the cards in there hand. Especially since they got the west hooked on there oil an gas. Thoe people are complaining about gas prices. When gas is much cheaper today than in the 70s in 80s really gas is not expensive at all.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos]
    #27686064 - 03/07/22 09:26 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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At this point I can't see anything that Russia can gain that comes close to what they are going to lose. The extent of the sanctions have gone beyond anyone's expectations. Russians with money are leaving the country. The war is not popular at home. NATO is going to expand. Germany just doubled their defense budget. Putin is doing a better job of destroying Russia than destroying Ukraine. It's going to require a lot more repression at home for him to retain his power. Who would have dreamed he could miscalculated this that badly?




I think Putin was planning on trump being in the white house, and once that failed, hoped Biden would be as demented as Republican propaganda claims.

He has definitely become much less popular recently. I can't say he was particularly popular among my people before, but nobody makes fun of me for trump anymore.


well biden is actually the most popular president in history an hes gaining more an more support each day. Him be coming less popular is a fake news an there is 0 evidence.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #27686493 - 03/07/22 04:56 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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lol chopstick blaming Obama for today’s gas prices.

Economic growth is too fast right now anyways, and the fed had been expected to put the brakes on with interest rate hikes. A little slow down in the economy won’t hurt, and it will help reign in inflation


dont be a hypocrite you guys still blame trump for Biden’s blunders.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: koods]
    #27687090 - 03/08/22 06:57 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

This invasion is comming to an end putin just got punked by joe biden.


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