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Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised * 1
    #2766497 - 06/05/04 04:55 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, a few last posts. This recipe for Ayahuasca is for the banisteriopsis vine and the leaves of psychotria viridis.

This particular one is enough for three doses so someone else can rewrite this and post it here in this thread.

The recipe is from the Alan Shoemaker school of Ayahuasca.

Alan, as some of you may know is a shaman in PEru who has conducted huasca sessions worldwide.
IT was sh his shipload of viridis leaves and Banisteriopsis vines which were confiscated by the DEA a several years ago, Although he had legal permits for all vegetable materials his website at chinchilajo, they raided him anywy.
And the recipe below was made for 3 doses.

Remember you have to cut the vine and slice it and make shavings like a cheese grating wood.

Then boil it. THe prep is also on this page. It was kinda bet up when I found it ti this morning.

Good luck to all whop partake of this mixture.

Find Alan Shoemaker in the google search engines.

Crumble leaves to fiberous mass is the preparation for the leaves and vine. Then do all the rest.

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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2766683 - 06/05/04 06:45 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

OK here is my transcription of the scanned notes posted above. It should be word for word though the handwriting kind of throws me off in a few places. Anything within [ and ] is either my personal note or a word standing in place of a symbol I couldn't reproduce. Feel free to point out any errors:

you have 3 doses worth
3 X 1.2 oz leaf
3 X 1.8 oz vine

1) Cool in a pressure cooker
after prepp,-ing materials
put in pressure cooker &
cover with water, + 1 L [liter], or so
cook at least 8 hrs. (up to 16
hrs.)

add approx. 1 heaping tablespoon
of Vitamin C powder (or equiv.)
per dose
crumble leaf between hands
cut vine into [approximately] 3" chunks
split into chopstick diameter
hammer into fiberous mass

when done cooking, take
fluid, boil down again
until you have 4 oz/dose


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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2766949 - 06/05/04 09:35 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup:

i want to try ayahusaca one of these days :smile:


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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: Hooty]
    #2768222 - 06/06/04 04:48 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Hooty said:
1) Cool in a pressure cooker
after prepp,-ing materials
put in pressure cooker &
cover with water, + 1 [?], or so
cook at least 8 hrs. (up to 16
hrs.)





The above reads + 1 L (litre) or so

Thanks for this Mjshroomer, I look forward to attempting this.

FYI, Its "Alan Shoemaker" for those looking for more info, here're some links:

[url=http://www.csp.org/nicholas/A12.html]Grace And Madness by Alan Shoemaker[/url]

[url=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q="Alan+Shoemaker"+Ayahuasca+&btnG=Search]Google Results[/url]



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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: peachy]
    #2780937 - 06/10/04 11:39 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:


The above reads + 1 L (litre) or so





so it does, I'll change my original post accordingly.


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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised *DELETED* [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2781225 - 06/10/04 01:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2781557 - 06/10/04 02:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

FAQ that shit. thanks MJ


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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: the man]
    #2781689 - 06/10/04 03:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

> Is it even neccessary?

Just do what the man says.. Its easy enough to find....

But this tec doesnt answer the important question.. Tea vs extract.. So hard to decide...........


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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: freakygurl]
    #2784045 - 06/11/04 09:01 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

you could substitute almost any acid (a spoonful of white vinegar or cider vinegar, a tiny pinch of phosphoric acid, a couple/few drops muriatic acid, etc.)


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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2784533 - 06/11/04 12:45 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Awesome, thanks MJ (and Hooty for transcripting)


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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2790393 - 06/13/04 07:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

ayahuasca is awesome i used a recipe w/ mimosa hostillis, syrian rue, caapi,and sinnicuichi...right now im using the same recipe to make an extract for pill form since its hard to get down while drinking it


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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2790414 - 06/13/04 07:20 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Very useful indeed :smile:


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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: Hooty]
    #2838969 - 06/29/04 10:04 AM (13 years, 26 days ago)

It's 1) COOK in a pressure cooker ....etc etc

And also I think the water thing was 'cover with water + 1" or so' as in have the water at least 1" above the level of the plant matter in the pot.

Also MJ or anyone else I was wondering if the dosages given are actually enough for a decent experience or are these rather 'mild' / 'white mans' dosages? I mean looking at the tiny ass San Pedro dosages people reccomend on the net I'm not sure whether I should double or triple whats given here or if this is actually gonna be sufficent for a proper 'shamanic dose'?


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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: zee_werp]
    #3576181 - 01/03/05 08:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hi, That t dose described above is for a full blown Indian ceremonial dose. Shumaker gives these sessions across the globe at very priced trips and he is the guide.

I completely forgot about this thread until someone just asked foer a copy opf his recipe..

I was once offerred the actual chemials, 15 milligrams of DMT and 150 milligrams of harmaline. Turned it down for some reason. Did not think it was the right time.

Hope everyone enjoys this trip. It is most awesome.

have a shroomy day. This spring I might go to Aftrica and try Iboga. Giorgio Samorini was the first m white man to get initiated into the bwiti tribal cult in Afrrica. he wrote about it in a back issue of Eleusis.

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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: Hooty]
    #3576418 - 01/03/05 09:36 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

What I do not like about that recipe is that it appears that you are brewing the vine and the leaves together. I prefer to brew them separately, drink the vine tea, and then drink the leaves tea about 30 to 45 minutes later. You can use lemon juice in place of vit. c powder. I posted a tek and some tips a while back. Anyone who is considering a yage journey should take their time and do it right. Educate yourself. Yage is not for recreational use IMO.


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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: MOTH]
    #3577176 - 01/04/05 12:24 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Question: Where do you get vitamin C powder? Just grind up the pills? Is it even necessary?





don't fuck with perfection. the man knows his shit.
followed his San Pedro prep to the letter, worked perfectly every time.
San Pedro can be a bit tricky with dosage. older, bigger more mescaline (in general terms) smaller pups=less mescaline
. a 2 y/o cactus will be less potent then a 5-7 y/o cactus. of course a larger cactus will contain more mescaline.
i like to make about 4-5 doses using a foot extra of cactus. then i take the recommended doses, and get my feet wet. if the recommended dose is too light, then i go with more next time, if it is too crazy a trip, i go with less. very easy. mescaline stores great in the freezer too.
cant wait to try the ayahuasca recipe. after listening to some old Terrance McKenna lectures on it i got real excited to try it myself.
thanks Mj.
oh yeah vitamin C can be found anywhere there is a Rite-Aide, Longs drugs, or most grocery stores, and Wal-Mart's. very easy to locate. If all else fails, you have the powers of the Internet.


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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised *DELETED* [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3577771 - 01/04/05 02:34 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: freakygurl]
    #3578511 - 01/04/05 09:44 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

i thought 40-50mg was a good smoked dose. Would it be that much higher in the ayahuasca?


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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: el_duderino]
    #3579026 - 01/04/05 12:53 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

When you do ayahuasca you do not smoke the dmt. btw. 15 milligrams of dmt is a potent smoking dosage. You would have a bad trip consuming (smoking) the amount of DMT mentioned above. DMT is not active orally but is active when smoked. When taken orally, it only works with hamala from vines in the amazon and form syrian rue and a few other plants. The DMT when taken orally with the harmala or harmaline acts as a potentiate to the banisteriopsis vine or what ever source of harmala or hamaline you are using. The huascaros or ayahuascaras, drink the brew all cooked together in one pot.

And they have no scales for preparing doses. The shamans know how much to use. The leaves for the vine as noted in my post was for three doses. So I am going to show you the actual picture of how much was required for the three doses I originally obtained from the source of the recipe.

And Alan Shumaker has been conducting voyages on ayahuasca for many years. His normal clientel consists of College students, medical students, psychology students and others whose interest lay int he field of medicinal healing plants and psychedelia. It is a powerful tool for psychiatric medicine.

The vine is about a foot and a half long or so and about 1 and a half inch thick. The end of the vine is at the edge of the palm of my hand.



Here is a string of Psychotria viridis leaves, strung on home made string-vine from the Amazon. The leaves are enough for three doses of ayahuasca when mixed with the vine. The Jar-Jar cup is 13 and 1/2 inches in height so you can see the amount of actual leaves it took for the three doses. I was informed that the weight of the leaves int he image I took contains approximately 50-60 milligrams of DMT.

The dosage above which I mention in the harmaline and DMT is what Sasha Shulgin would consider to be a clinical dosage by weight.

I cannot recall the weight of the vine or of the leaves. So one must use their imagination.



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Re: Ayahusaca Preparation Recipe as Promised [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3579206 - 01/04/05 01:49 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

MJ said: "The huascaros or ayahuascaras, drink the brew all cooked together in one pot. And Alan Shumaker has been conducting voyages on ayahuasca for many years."

Here's a great article by Alan Shumaker. http://chinchilejo.yage.net/grace.html I recommend it to anyone considering an ayahuasca journey. His description of the brew does show that it is mixed together. My early readings led me to conclude that it would be better to take them separately, drinking the harmala first followed by the DMT 20 to 30 minutes later. I think the reason is that DMT is broken down faster by your body, and so letting the harmala (the chemical that activates the DMT) start kicking in before taking the DMT ensures no loss of DMT. This apparently isn't necessary, and to be honest I think next time I will do it as one brew because it is difficult to digest that second brew. The last time I used ayahuasca I didn't take my time and prepare the teas good enough and I got sick as hell off the harmala and never could take the DMT.


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