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Bigfoots 2022 veggie patch growlog - greenthumbs welcome! * 5
    #27651519 - 02/08/22 09:15 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I'm finally getting off my ass and starting a veggie garden. I want to do it every year but I'm so damn busy I either never get around to doing it or I forget about it until May when it's way too late to start seeds. Not this year!

This thread is going to serve as a growlog of sorts just to document my process and results. If there are any other gardeners on here I encourage you to join in!



2/3/22 I started 72 pepper seeds (5 seeds each of 13 varieties..ok 6 of one and 5 of the other 12) ranging from 0 scoville to 2,000,000+ scoville :rockon: I'm not sure if I'm early, late or right on time for starting these seeds but I'm zone 5a so early is better than late.

Pepper lineup:

two jalapeno varieties (Jalamundo from NuMex and 'Early Jalapeno')
7 pot bubblegum (2mil+ shu superhot)
Yellow Fever (~1.5mil shu superhot) - the title 7 pot comes from the legend that 1 pepper is enough to spice up 7 pots of chili
Trinidad Red Scotch Bonnet (~500k shu)
Cayenne long thing (~30-50k shu)
Antep Aci Dolma (very sweet flavor similar to red bell peppers with about 10k shu. I'm very excited for this pepper!)
Piri-Piri (~100k shu - excellent for fermented hotsauces)
Red GhostxScorpion (~1mil shu)
Korean Hot Chili (traditional pepper used for kimchi ~50k shu)
Hawaiian Sweet Hot (excellent for cooking fresh, unknown heat level)
Sweet Apple Kambe (sweet pepper 0shu)
Zia Pueblo (unknkown SHU, traditionally used to dry and use as seasoning)

2/8/22 - I have sprouts on NuMex Jalapeno, Early Jalapeno, Korean Hot, Sweet Apple Kambe, Trinidad Red Scotch Bonnet, Piri Piri, Antep Aci Dolma in 4 days! As anticipated the superhots are lagging behind but I've heard 21+ days isn't uncommon for them to push their cotyledons out of the soil so it's a waiting game :jeopardy music:


I'm still waiting on 10-12 tomato varieties to be delivered. I'll get those added when they show up and get put in the seed tray. I don't really like tomatoes very much but I've been wanting to start making my own bloody mary mix and I've always wanted to grow some of the more peculiar tomatoes so I'm finally doin' something about it!

In a few weeks I'm going to have a shit load of plants on my hands but I know plenty of people who would be thrilled to get some transplant-ready veggies, and I might try and sell a few just to recoup the cost of seeds :shrug:


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Re: Bigfoots 2022 veggie patch growlog - greenthumbs welcome! [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 3
    #27652821 - 02/09/22 07:48 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Hell yea brother!

Get you some cilantro and a couple onions and you can make some serious salsa!:smile:


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Re: Bigfoots 2022 veggie patch growlog - greenthumbs welcome! [Re: san pedro guy] * 2
    #27652886 - 02/09/22 08:42 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I'm contemplating onions and carrots but I'm not sure how much room I'll have. I'd really like to do some horseradish to! My yard doesn't have enough sun to support a garden so I'm having to work with whatever area my dad is nice enough to loan me out of his garden. He already has garlic and some huge asparagus plants that push massive yields every year so I'll be busy making a bunch of pickled asparagus this spring as well.

I'm excited for all the fresh salsa I'll be eating all summer long but what I'm really excited for is all the fermented hot sauce and bloody mary mix I'll be making! I put hot sauce on everything and I can't find a commercially available bloody mix that tastes how I want it to. They're always either too peppery, never actually spicy, not garlicky enough, too smoky, not smoky enough or whatever it is.


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Re: Bigfoots 2022 veggie patch growlog - greenthumbs welcome! [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 2
    #27654452 - 02/10/22 09:27 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

damn, fresh bloody mary mix sounds delicious! I’m never really satisfied with them either, always just some plain as tomato juice and tabasco (vinegar mostly) and i remember why i don’t order those buahaha

Wish i had space for a garden again, might try some indoor hydro if i ever get out of the hotel and into apartment this year.

well best of luck on the seedlings and all, ill be lurking around


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Re: Bigfoots 2022 veggie patch growlog - greenthumbs welcome! [Re: san pedro guy] * 2
    #27655605 - 02/11/22 07:44 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)




Tomato seeds arrived this morning so I've got 6 of each variety soaking in some black tea for a little chemical scarification to assist with germination. They'll get planted in a 72 cell seed tray tomorrow first thing in the morning and I'll be in business!

This time of year in zone 5 is always so cold, drab and dreary so it's really nice having some greenery growing. It's gotten me really excited to mow my lawn lol


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Re: Bigfoots 2022 veggie patch growlog - greenthumbs welcome! [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 1
    #27655753 - 02/11/22 10:11 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

looks bomb…I’m a fan of the cherry size. I had forget the name but it had the stripes like the green zebra but they were red with dark stripes, man they were so juicy…

We would just toss a pinch of seeds in some small containers then transplant into the garden when they were a decent size lol I like your technique tho

I’m looking into this non circulating hydro setup, looks pretty awesome, little baskets of coir recessed in the lid of tubs, maybe like a 50 or 60 quart size


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Re: Bigfoots 2022 veggie patch growlog - greenthumbs welcome! [Re: san pedro guy] * 1
    #27656189 - 02/12/22 10:03 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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looks bomb…I’m a fan of the cherry size. I had forget the name but it had the stripes like the green zebra but they were red with dark stripes, man they were so juicy…

We would just toss a pinch of seeds in some small containers then transplant into the garden when they were a decent size lol I like your technique tho

I’m looking into this non circulating hydro setup, looks pretty awesome, little baskets of coir recessed in the lid of tubs, maybe like a 50 or 60 quart size





I meant to order a packet of the seeds you're talking about but I must have forgotten to add it to my cart. Oh well, considering I don't really even like tomatoes I think the 48 seeds I just put in a seed tray will be more than enough for me

I tend to apply the 'belt and suspenders' approach to everything I do, which is why I soaked my seeds. Simple often works just as well but that ain't how my brain is wired unfortunately lol

Your hydro setup sounds cool! I'll actually be taking a hydroponics class next semester at my University because they changed how it's classified so it now satisfies one of my requirements :rockon:


Pepper seeds are getting quite leggy, assuming they even sprout. I'm going to start some more of the same varieties today to see if I can correct some of the mistakes that I believe led me to the stretched out seedlings.


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Re: Bigfoots 2022 veggie patch growlog - greenthumbs welcome! [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 1
    #27658905 - 02/14/22 05:10 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

2 days after getting seeds in the tray I've got my first tomato sprout..that's fast AF lol


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Re: Bigfoots 2022 veggie patch growlog - greenthumbs welcome! [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 2
    #27667294 - 02/21/22 02:23 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

You'll have a lot of fun with the scotch bonnets.
I used them for a few batches of my fermented hot sauce and the taste was incredible. They are sweet and zesty and pack a good punch heat wise but won't have you going insane for half an hour like a reaper or a bhut jolokia.


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Re: Bigfoots 2022 veggie patch growlog - greenthumbs welcome! [Re: Ankhseramun] * 1
    #27667306 - 02/21/22 02:49 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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You'll have a lot of fun with the scotch bonnets.
I used them for a few batches of my fermented hot sauce and the taste was incredible. They are sweet and zesty and pack a good punch heat wise but won't have you going insane for half an hour like a reaper or a bhut jolokia.





Hey thanks for tuning in! I love scotch bonnets because of how versatile they are! A friend of mine traded me a few grocery sacks last season for a chocolate bar. Almost all of them were fermented for hot sauce but I used a dozen or so for some jerk chicken on the grill and a batch of spicy chili while the wife was out of town. She thinks ketchup is spicy but loves chili so I have to be careful when I cook for her.

I'm growing a few that I'm a little nervous to eat though - like the bhut jolokia x trinidad scorpion cross and the 7 pot bubblegum which is another Trinidad Scorpion hybrid..

Most of my peppers this year are destined for hot sauce but I'm going to be making fresh salsas weekly, smoking, drying and grinding a lot of them for seasoning powder, pickling, daring drunk neighbors into eating one and what not.


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    #27667308 - 02/21/22 02:53 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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You'll have a lot of fun with the scotch bonnets.
I used them for a few batches of my fermented hot sauce and the taste was incredible. They are sweet and zesty and pack a good punch heat wise but won't have you going insane for half an hour like a reaper or a bhut jolokia.





Hey thanks for tuning in! I love scotch bonnets because of how versatile they are! A friend of mine traded me a few grocery sacks last season for a chocolate bar. Almost all of them were fermented for hot sauce but I used a dozen or so for some jerk chicken on the grill and a batch of spicy chili while the wife was out of town. She thinks ketchup is spicy but loves chili so I have to be careful when I cook for her.

I'm growing a few that I'm a little nervous to eat though - like the bhut jolokia x trinidad scorpion cross and the 7 pot bubblegum which is another Trinidad Scorpion hybrid..

Most of my peppers this year are destined for hot sauce but I'm going to be making fresh salsas weekly, smoking, drying and grinding a lot of them for seasoning powder, pickling, daring drunk neighbors into eating one and what not.



Sounds like a lot of goodies, wish I'd have enough room for a new pepper grow. I did one once and had to toss everything because the soil was contaminated with trich...
But I can order pounds of fresh peppers from NL for incredibly cheap so I usually do this, great quality too and they put about 20% more in case some peppers get smashed in transport.

And to be fair, anything over 1 million Scoville is a torture. Love me some habaneros or Habanero/Scorpioin mix in a 80/20 ratio but straight Scorpion/ScropionxGhost or above and I'm definitely out.


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Re: Bigfoots 2022 veggie patch growlog - greenthumbs welcome! [Re: Ankhseramun] * 2
    #27670519 - 02/23/22 03:43 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Nice! I am growing Piri Piri too!

Bulls blood beets
DAZZLING BLUE KALE
swiss chard
basil


Peppers:
Datil? (I'm in New York :confused: )
Helios habanero (hybrid)
Shishito
piri-piri
7 pot primo orange
Diomar   
Primero
lemon drop
brazil wild
       

Juliet Tomato
Black cherry tomato

lettuce:
Black seeded simpson
Boston Bibb
arugala


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Re: Bigfoots 2022 veggie patch growlog - greenthumbs welcome! [Re: flugelizor] * 3
    #27672437 - 02/24/22 11:07 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Nice! I am growing Piri Piri too!

Bulls blood beets
DAZZLING BLUE KALE
swiss chard
basil


Peppers:
Datil? (I'm in New York :confused: )
Helios habanero (hybrid)
Shishito
piri-piri
7 pot primo orange
Diomar   
Primero
lemon drop
brazil wild
       

Juliet Tomato
Black cherry tomato

lettuce:
Black seeded simpson
Boston Bibb
arugala





that's going to be an awesome garden! I've always wanted to grow lettuce/spinach/chard but always forget about it and need to learn how to mange it - from what I know temps and 'bolting' can cause some bad flavored produce. According to USDA I'm still in the window for sowing these seeds though so I might give if a go :thumbup:



A quick little update: I started transplanting my peppers today. Most of which went well and I think they will all survive:



these are my super leggy jalapenos that I buried pretty deep hoping they sprout adventitious roots but I don't have high hopes:



I got impatient and tried transplanting some tomatoes. The roots aren't developed enough so I ripped the root balls of a few in half so these guys will have to wait another week or two:



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Re: Bigfoots 2022 veggie patch growlog - greenthumbs welcome! [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 1
    #27676971 - 02/28/22 01:44 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

We've got 4 unexpected days of 60s and 70s coming up before we go back to the freeze so I'm taking this opportunity to get my seedlings outside for about 30 minutes each day. I'm still about 8 weeks out from planting them in the ground so I'm not doing a full on hardening off, just introducing them to wind and natural sunlight.

The sooner I can leave these outside all day the better, I made a critical miscalculation and I'm not going to have nearly enough room to manage these plants under the lights I have lol. I'd rather move them outside and inside daily than have to trash a bunch of plants because I didn't plan properly. Live and learn


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    #27677131 - 02/28/22 04:22 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

8 weeks?
May 1 in the ground seems mighty early for zone 5a.
You might want to go to containers in case of frost / deep freeze

I am 5a, and shooting for mid June (for peppers). But your mileage may vary.

edit - for peppers. Greens obviously go out earlier.


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    #27677152 - 02/28/22 04:49 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

:threadmonitor:
I usually grow tomatoes and jalapenos with some leafy greens and onions mixed in
Every year I say I'm doing less but rarely do

Carrots are a no-go unless you have really sandy soil.  Radishes are real easy and fast growers also
Herbs that you cook with are fun to do too.  You can dry them and cook for a couple years off of one plant unless you use it all the time
I got a super good recipe for canning jalapenos if you want it and I'm gonna guess you've got almost everything needed for that already.  I used to sell them for $10/pint and give em away for holidays


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    #27677182 - 02/28/22 05:18 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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8 weeks?
May 1 in the ground seems mighty early for zone 5a.
You might want to go to containers in case of frost / deep freeze

I am 5a, and shooting for mid June (for peppers). But your mileage may vary.

edit - for peppers. Greens obviously go out earlier.





8 weeks may be a touch early but 10 should be good. We're typically done with our late season Winter BS in April so I'm using May 1st as a target but will adjust accordingly. My entire life is based off of weather reports and maintaining grass so I at least know not to rush and expect the unexpected lol.

I just noticed your tag says 'Western, NY' so there's the difference. I'm in Midwestern Corn Country so our winters are a little different than yours :lol: every season zone 6b gets closer and closer...


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I usually grow tomatoes and jalapenos with some leafy greens and onions mixed in
Every year I say I'm doing less but rarely do

Carrots are a no-go unless you have really sandy soil.  Radishes are real easy and fast growers also
Herbs that you cook with are fun to do too.  You can dry them and cook for a couple years off of one plant unless you use it all the time
I got a super good recipe for canning jalapenos if you want it and I'm gonna guess you've got almost everything needed for that already.  I used to sell them for $10/pint and give em away for holidays





Fuck yeah man I'd love a good recipe! I'm just starting to read about canning to hopefully preserve some of my harvests (other than fermenting for hot sauce), especially pressure canning since I want to make a ton of salsa. I've seen a few recipes for 'cowboy candy' that sound good but it's not quite a pickled jalapeno


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    #27677964 - 03/01/22 08:25 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Here ya go.  I thought this up almost 20 years ago and haven't changed it in a long time

Also, a lot of canning recipes call for alum to keep the product crisp.  I don't use it because it's basically aluminum which has been linked to Alzheimer's.  It makes the peppers pretty soft but people don't seem to mind.  My wife was eating them with popcorn last night and I had some on Spanish scrambled eggs yesterday for breakfast and nachos last night

Just noticed these directions are for a hot water bath canner, not a pressure cooker.  You can do 15 min at 15 psi with a PC instead and they turn out the same.  The olive oil will turn a lil gelatinous once you keep them in the fridge but that's ok, it just looks weird

4 cups vinegar
1 cup olive oil
1 cup water
6 teaspoons pickling salt
1/2 teaspoon dried Thyme
3 fresh garlic cloves

Wash and slice jalapenos
Combine vinegar, olive oil, water, and pickling salt
Begin heating water in canner to a boil
Sterilize approximately 6 pint jars
Bring solution to a boil
Place thyme, sliced garlic cloves, and jalapenos into the jars
Pour solution into jars leaving about a ½ inch of room at the top
Place lids and rings on jars
Process in canner for 15 minutes after canner begins to boil again
Remove jars and let sit overnight to cool
Remove rings and dry tops of the jars to prevent rust


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    #27680491 - 03/03/22 04:29 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I love your pepper selection and your setup. Looks good. I had a pepper garden many times but now its a growing substrate graveyard along with scattered places around the property. I have never been much good at growing some of the things I like such as garlic, brussels sprouts, artichokes although climate does factor in some and indoor plants wouldn't fit in this cramped little trailer. Best of luck on your plants. Maybe we could trade something for a few of the dried super hots I have never tried before when they are ready.


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    #27680514 - 03/03/22 05:09 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Assuming I don't manage to kill my plants between now and harvest I'll be happy to share my crop with you! I have WAY more plants than I'm going to know what to do with lol. Whatever peppers I don't use to ferment for hot sauce will be either used for fresh salsas or bloody marry mixes but I'm sure the large majority are either going to be dried or smoked AND dried. When the time comes I'll be happy to share some peppers with you! I'd offer some bottles of hot sauce to you but they won't be ready until 2023 season :lol: maybe a bottle of bloody mix if it's half decent


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