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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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omg omg
    #2763766 - 06/04/04 02:27 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

the fahrenheight 9/11 trailer just gave me a stiffy...god this movie looks good...one of the best trailers ive ever seen

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Re: omg omg [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2763897 - 06/04/04 03:03 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Too bad that Moore had to ruin my respect for him with bowling for columbine. I will have trouble believing anything I see from him again.


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Re: omg omg [Re: Seuss]
    #2763945 - 06/04/04 03:15 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I suggest you not watch the trailer if you want to keep any of the respect for him you had left.


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Re: omg omg [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2763997 - 06/04/04 03:30 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

why is it so hard for people to believe that the side they don't agree with isn't the only side making propaganda? For fuck's sake, step back and look at Moore, he's 110% grade A USDA choice leftist propaganda. He has some good points, and some good info, but for fuck's sake.... dont treat him like a genius and believe every fucking thing he says. Moore knows how to manipulate people, and he's fucking good at it. Keep that in mind.

There's liberal propaganda too, kids

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Re: omg omg [Re: Turd]
    #2764004 - 06/04/04 03:34 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I consider my self a left-leaning moderate and I can't fucking stand michael moore. Bowling for columbine is too full of arranged scenes and misrepresented facts to really accomplish what he was going for, in my opinion. It's like this new movie, "The Day After Tomorrow". It's supposed to be some kind of statement about the threat of global warming. That's fine, I can support the idea behind trying to enlighten people but the problem is this movie is 100% bad science and it ends up hurting the "cause" more than helping it. That's how I feel about MM and his movies.


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Re: omg omg [Re: unbeliever]
    #2764006 - 06/04/04 03:34 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: omg omg [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2764025 - 06/04/04 03:44 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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It's supposed to be some kind of statement about the threat of global warming.




no, its purpose is to earn money. and it's not '100% bad science', its just grossly exagerrated science FICTION. just like most science fiction, it takes a scientific idea, and distorts, manipulates and exaggerates it.

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don't treat him like a genius and believe every fucking thing he says.



he didn't, he just inferred that it will be entertaining.

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Re: omg omg [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2764031 - 06/04/04 03:47 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I'd like to add that rational thinking people on the right side of things should feel the same away about people like Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Jerry Falwell, and other radical and vocal right wing pundits. I would apply that same logic to people like Barbra Streisand and a few other hollywood lefties who preach from their mansions.


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Re: omg omg [Re: Tao]
    #2764032 - 06/04/04 03:47 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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don't treat him like a genius and believe every fucking thing he says.



he didn't, he just inferred that it will be entertaining.




It gave him a stiffy. You know as we all do how much kott is going to worship this movie.


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Re: omg omg [Re: d33p]
    #2764050 - 06/04/04 03:53 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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It gave him a stiffy. You know as we all do how much kott is going to worship this movie.




fair enough, i'll stop putting words in his mouth. KOTT, do you think this movie is going to be propagandish?

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Re: omg omg [Re: Tao]
    #2764064 - 06/04/04 03:57 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Try a little more accurate use of the reply button or please specify who you are responding to.


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Re: omg omg [Re: unbeliever]
    #2764074 - 06/04/04 04:01 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

The main complaint people seem to have about those you mention is HOW they present their points. If there are inaccuracies in what they say, point those out. Attack the message, not the messenger. (not always easy when the messenger is such an easy target)


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Re: omg omg [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2764093 - 06/04/04 04:07 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
The main complaint people seem to have about those you mention is HOW they present their points. If there are inaccuracies in what they say, point those out. Attack the message, not the messenger. (not always easy when the messenger is such an easy target)




Well my point earlier was that sometimes the messenger gets in the way of the message. The vitriolic nature of peole like Hannity, Falwell and to be honest the fucking dumbass nature of people like Streisand and Moore interfere with whatever they're tying to sell. When someone (Hannity) writes a book titled Deliver Us from Evil : Defeating Terrorism, Despotism, and Liberalism that weighs heavily in my mind against whatever they have to say and what their motive and biases are behind their message. Same thing when someone like Moore films a "documentary" like Bowling and sells it as the absolute truth. Character DOES matter. To me at least.


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Re: omg omg [Re: unbeliever]
    #2764101 - 06/04/04 04:10 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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Well my point earlier was that sometimes the messenger gets in the way of the message. The vitriolic nature of peole like Hannity, Falwell and to be honest the fucking dumbass nature of people like Streisand and Moore interfere with whatever they're tying to sell.



Hence my earlier comment.


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Character DOES matter.



Damn right.


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To me at least.



And to me which is why I point out "dishonesty" here.


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Re: omg omg [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2764127 - 06/04/04 04:20 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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Well my point earlier was that sometimes the messenger gets in the way of the message. The vitriolic nature of peole like Hannity, Falwell and to be honest the fucking dumbass nature of people like Streisand and Moore interfere with whatever they're tying to sell.



Hence my earlier comment. 


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Character DOES matter.


 
Damn right.


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To me at least.



And to me which is why I point out "dishonesty" here.




So wtf were we arguing about? hehe :smile:


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Re: omg omg [Re: unbeliever]
    #2764132 - 06/04/04 04:22 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not arguing. Are you?


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Re: omg omg [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2764147 - 06/04/04 04:33 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm not arguing. Are you?




Apparently not. :wink:


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Re: omg omg [Re: Seuss]
    #2764187 - 06/04/04 04:51 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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Too bad that Moore had to ruin my respect for him with bowling for columbine. I will have trouble believing anything I see from him again.




ive heard and read all these stories about bush in other places...the bin laden controversy, etc.... i saw some right-wing guy on msnbc saying he disagrees with the movie, but moore didnt make anything up

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Re: omg omg [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2764203 - 06/04/04 04:57 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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but moore didnt make anything up



Even if true, it's not necessary to make things up to be dishonest.


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Re: omg omg [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2764222 - 06/04/04 05:04 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

i guess in ur scary brain...as with all conservatives, truth is a bad thing

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