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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: san pedro guy]
    #27622991 - 01/17/22 09:48 PM (2 years, 29 days ago)

Ah ok - yeah I am not sure I've ever seen plastic that clear that could be PCd.

Stacking in that after PCing will work but I don't know how much better it would be than just stacking without a container. Probably slow down the cooling a bit though. The link in my sig has a nice way to get rid of condensation though it adds a little bit of effort. I've been using it a long time now.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hindsight] * 1
    #27623006 - 01/17/22 10:10 PM (2 years, 29 days ago)

hell yea, def going to try this best I can with what I got (living in a hotel rn)

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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: san pedro guy]
    #27624147 - 01/19/22 04:21 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)

Just ordered 2 packs yayy 😁

newbie questions

do you guys dont make hole and put micropore? like no pour with sauce containers

if i close the lid all the way over
how the gas come out when PC?

and i loose the lid a bit
there is no way for contamination after take out from PC?


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: AbuSharka]
    #27624152 - 01/19/22 04:35 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)

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AbuSharka said:
Just ordered 2 packs yayy 😁

newbie questions

do you guys dont make hole and put micropore? like no pour with sauce containers

if i close the lid all the way over
how the gas come out when PC?

and i loose the lid a bit
there is no way for contamination after take out from PC?




No holes needed. The containers are not airtight, yet they don't contam because relatively still air should not be able to carry bacteria through the threads of the lid.
Personally I loosen the lid before PC just a little bit because other users had their HGs collapse in the PC when fully closed. However, I do sometimes see contaminations appear in jars after the PC cycle, most likely because of this


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: jomanda1990]
    #27624212 - 01/19/22 06:39 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)

Thanks mate I'll try without holes with loosen lid a bit.

i wish they will come quickly i cant wait :crazy:


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: AbuSharka]
    #27624443 - 01/19/22 10:47 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)

Figured I would go check these containers out. I think this thread may have started a trend.



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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: AbuSharka]
    #27626061 - 01/20/22 04:30 PM (2 years, 27 days ago)

Don't make GE holes on the holy grail containers, it defeats the purpose of using these containers.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #27633223 - 01/26/22 03:39 AM (2 years, 21 days ago)

Morning All!

When using the quart jar method, do you put the lid on the quart jars? Loosened up a bit? I've been using the quart jar method with decent success recently but I always wondered if I need to put the lid on the jar.

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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
    #27633299 - 01/26/22 06:24 AM (2 years, 21 days ago)

I used to use the jars and when I did I’d put the lid on. Sometimes tight, sometimes cracked a bit. Didn’t make any real difference. I don’t use jars anymore. Works fine without them and less hassle.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: phytophilia]
    #27633698 - 01/26/22 11:32 AM (2 years, 21 days ago)

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Hello everyone, first time posting long time lurking. You've all helped me a lot without knowing it, so I thought I'd finally post and give a little something back to everyone who's helped me so much. A big thank you to you all.

As you're all well aware, the containers have skyrocketed in price on Amazon ($17 for 8 containers last I saw) and the alternate sources in the original post are currently out of stock. So, like you, I've been scouring the internet looking for another source for Holy Grails.

After nearly resigning myself to paying high prices just to try these magical containers, I finally stumbled across this website. They appear to have both the 3 oz "standard" Holy Grail containers and 6.5oz "jumbo" Holy Grail containers (which are 4" wide and 1.75 inches tall- I know some of you were looking for larger Holy Grails to use). As of yesterday, the "standard" HG containers were 25% off, cost only 60 cents (USD) a pop, and can be purchased in 1, 12, or 50 count packs with free shipping too (over $25 of course... and watch out for the surprise $6 handling fee, always annoying...). I bought 62 HG containers for about $37 total. The deal was so good I figured I'd eat the cost (or switch hobbies and go into the cosmetics business...) if they didn't work out.

EDIT: It appears the sale is over, but they still only cost about 75 cents each in a 50-pack.

Just wanted to share the links for anyone who's been having a hard time finding these (affordably!) and wants to give them a try. Once my order arrives I'll post my own photos of their clarity.

EDIT: My order arrived, and they even gave me two extra containers in the 50-pack. What a deal! Here are a couple photos showing their clarity. They look pretty good to me, we'll see once I get something growing. Also, I checked all the lids and they appear to screw on properly (I think this was a concern with another source). Both the lids and the base have the PP5 symbol, so they should be good to go in your pressure cooker.






I'm excited to have finally found a better source for these. Also, I apologize if you already knew about this source, I did my best to read through the 40+ pages before posting. Hope this helps.

EDIT: In case anyone's wondering, I can fit 25 of these in my 6-quart Instant Pot for sterilization.

EDIT 1/25/22: After testing these out I’ve decided HG cups (at least the ones I bought) aren’t going to work for me.

Leaving them loosely unscrewed for a couple weeks (on an open shelf at temps averaging 60-65F with about 40% ambient humidity) did not dry them out much at all. So, for me, with my specific HG cups linked above, the shelf drying method of removing condensation did not work. The cold winter temperatures in my house probably didn’t help, but even at their clearest without any condensation I find these too foggy to work with. I can see mycelium okay but I can’t easily see contamination, which is a dealbreaker for me.

Switching back to my clunkier mini mason jars and ziploc twist n loc 4oz minis (which also require no modifications, for those interested). Ironically their taller stature is actually helpful when dealing with condensation as I can just look through the side of the cup at the culture, which I can’t do with my HG cups. Bummer, I did really like the slim profile of the HGs and that I could fit so many more in my pressure cooker.





Thanks again for this. I ordered some myself and have verified they are the exact same thing sold on Amazon. I bought 50 of them for a total shipped cost of $39. Compare that to $17.59 for just 8 on Amazon. Ridiculous. $2.20 per plate vs $0.78 per plate.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hindsight]
    #27634206 - 01/26/22 06:27 PM (2 years, 21 days ago)

The 20 pack for 12.99 is back in stock on Amazon. They sell out quickly but they come back in stock from time to time. Just have to keep an eye out for them.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Southerner]
    #27634398 - 01/26/22 09:12 PM (2 years, 21 days ago)

Which seller has 20 packs? The "BENECREAT" seller only sells them in 8 packs.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hindsight] * 2
    #27634557 - 01/26/22 11:00 PM (2 years, 20 days ago)

Amersumer has the 20 pack. It’s the link above the photos of the dish in the first post. Mentions a defective lid but I have a bunch of them with no lid problems.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hindsight]
    #27636298 - 01/28/22 12:55 PM (2 years, 19 days ago)

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Thanks again for this. I ordered some myself and have verified they are the exact same thing sold on Amazon. I bought 50 of them for a total shipped cost of $39. Compare that to $17.59 for just 8 on Amazon. Ridiculous. $2.20 per plate vs $0.78 per plate.




:thumbup: Glad you got a good deal.

I quickly abandoned the HG containers, which is a bummer because I really wanted them to work out. Didn't realize how foggy they were (even without condensation) until I got cultures going and had a hard time seeing contamination. Guess I'm spoiled by glass.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: phytophilia] * 2
    #27636319 - 01/28/22 01:14 PM (2 years, 19 days ago)

Glass and poured disposable plastic petris are much better for visibility for sure, and more shallow which is nicer too. But even so, I find I can still see 99% of what I need to through the frosty plastic of these, I have a process to eliminate 100% of the condensation from every plate, and I find no-pours to be faster to prepare and less prone to contamination. Don't have to wrap them etc. Another thing about visibility is that you are going to have to open them at some point anyway and you can do that in front of your hood or in the SAB and get perfect visibility there. But having said all that, I do use both types of plates in certain circumstances. I just tend to use HGs more than anything else due to the convenience and reliability.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hindsight]
    #27636663 - 01/28/22 07:31 PM (2 years, 19 days ago)

:whathesaid:

A soak in diluted white vinegar clears some of fog. I’ve never had a problem with these. Can always see what I need to see.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: DharmaForKarma]
    #27636676 - 01/28/22 07:41 PM (2 years, 19 days ago)



I prepared a handful with my last agar run this week. Made um thick and am using as pseudo slants. Transfered the cultures I want to save to them a couple nights ago. Once they grow out a bit, they'll hit the fridge


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hindsight]
    #27636775 - 01/28/22 09:24 PM (2 years, 18 days ago)

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Thanks again for this. I ordered some myself and have verified they are the exact same thing sold on Amazon. I bought 50 of them for a total shipped cost of $39. Compare that to $17.59 for just 8 on Amazon. Ridiculous. $2.20 per plate vs $0.78 per plate.




:thumbup: Glad you got a good deal.

I quickly abandoned the HG containers, which is a bummer because I really wanted them to work out. Didn't realize how foggy they were (even without condensation) until I got cultures going and had a hard time seeing contamination. Guess I'm spoiled by glass.



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Glass and poured disposable plastic petris are much better for visibility for sure, and more shallow which is nicer too. But even so, I find I can still see 99% of what I need to through the frosty plastic of these, I have a process to eliminate 100% of the condensation from every plate, and I find no-pours to be faster to prepare and less prone to contamination. Don't have to wrap them etc. Another thing about visibility is that you are going to have to open them at some point anyway and you can do that in front of your hood or in the SAB and get perfect visibility there. But having said all that, I do use both types of plates in certain circumstances. I just tend to use HGs more than anything else due to the convenience and reliability.




Basically 95% visibility versus 100% visibility of a disposable petridish.

I consider the visibility to be very good, IMO, I can see everything very clear. In exchange for 5% visibility reduction, you get a lot of unique features. No-pour, no-GE holes, no-parafilm, seeing through a flat clear lid surface like with disposables, you don't need to look from the sides like with the other pp5 no-pour containers, I mean, it has unique features that no other pp5 container has, I guess they are meant to be competitors of no-pour pp5 containers, not competitors of disposable/glass dishes, but I would say that there's a market niche that the HG are tackling among people who always used disposables because they are increasing in popularity among that collective too...

But it is also true that there are people who want 100% visibility no matter what, and I understand them, but I think they are visibility purists :P.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hindsight]
    #27637013 - 01/29/22 04:30 AM (2 years, 18 days ago)

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I finally stumbled across this website. They appear to have both the 3 oz "standard" Holy Grail containers and 6.5oz "jumbo" Holy Grail containers (which are 4" wide and 1.75 inches tall- I know some of you were looking for larger Holy Grails to use). As of yesterday, the "standard" HG containers were 25% off, cost only 60 cents (USD) a pop, and can be purchased in 1, 12, or 50 count packs with free shipping too (over $25 of course... and watch out for the surprise $6 handling fee, always annoying...). I bought 62 HG containers for about $37 total. The deal was so good I figured I'd eat the cost (or switch hobbies and go into the cosmetics business...) if they didn't work out.








I tried to order from "wholesalesuppliesplus" but the paypal payment got hung up and the order wouldn't process. Freaked me out a little as I'm not sure about their legitimacy. Anyone else order from these folks before?

btw... I'm a holy grail container fan for realz...


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Edited by myc_ousin_vinny (01/29/22 04:32 AM)


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
    #27637055 - 01/29/22 05:59 AM (2 years, 18 days ago)

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I tried to order from "wholesalesuppliesplus" but the paypal payment got hung up and the order wouldn't process. Freaked me out a little as I'm not sure about their legitimacy. Anyone else order from these folks before?

btw... I'm a holy grail container fan for realz...




Strange about your payment issue. I personally used a credit card without any problems, super fast shipping too. :shrug: If that doesn’t work for you, the 20-pack is back in stock for $13 on Amazon.


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