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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27631036 - 01/24/22 01:51 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Cheap and abundant... Ya definetly not wood for much longer I'm thinking.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27631038 - 01/24/22 01:54 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Wasn't someone trying wood pellets? I'm already doing a pretty decent job bucket pasteurizing my coir, because its so easy... but in no way do I want to sterilize the substrate. no way. Seems like straw run through a chipper might be about right.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: QM33]
    #27631040 - 01/24/22 01:58 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

With proper agroforestry we could manage our timber resources. On the small scale I would reccomend collecting the fallen materials, not cutting trees.

A good investment would be to grow your own family's trees for future generations. I'm hoping I can have some nice homegrown cherry floors and banisters by the time I die. Oh and a door to match!

I'll try a bag of masters mix and see how it goes soon.

You can sometimes purchase straw pellets. A chipper shredder would make nice work of a bale for sure.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat] * 1
    #27631043 - 01/24/22 02:03 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I'd be curious to see if anyone can find a way to process bamboo for use as a substrate - it is a grass, after all. Idk, I'm halfway through a degree in agronomy and turfgrass management. You'd think I would know more about the subject :lol: hmmmmm maybe this could be a nice University funded project though!

Although, in an end of the world scenario I would likely just end up growing on cow turds outdoors


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl]
    #27631044 - 01/24/22 02:04 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

straw pellets aren't a thing in the pacific NW.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #27631047 - 01/24/22 02:06 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

What about Peat Moss?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #27631049 - 01/24/22 02:09 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

As for straw pellets, I've been told about them and seen listings online, but never secured them personally. Wood pellets and wheat bran, rice hulls, or soy bean hulls are what I can get cheap and easy enough for oysters currently. I'm not expecting the world to end so soon as to worry about changing my approach to everything. Going greener would be nice regardless.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #27631051 - 01/24/22 02:09 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Straw is definitely a thing in the pnw. Where there is grass, there is straw.
Maybe not pellets, but then you dont need pellets either.

Any grass straw will probably work. And if you stuff bags/logs you dont even need to cut it.

If I didnt have coir I would almost certainly use hpoo as it's free and abundant but straw is next in line.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #27631157 - 01/24/22 03:43 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Make a compost pile, boom. Less waste, free substrate. I think Brownbear looked into using shredded up corncobs or something like that. I don't see why peat moss wouldn't work either. If it's the end of the world I'd probably have a couple cows too... free poo.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lemgrub]
    #27631171 - 01/24/22 03:56 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

you don't want to use food compost.

Mowed and dried grass works good enough.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420] * 1
    #27631185 - 01/24/22 04:08 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Keep the compost for the garden right? Gonna need healthy soil in this survival scenario. How many acres of wheat does one person consume annually?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27631204 - 01/24/22 04:20 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

What an interesting question to look into! Apparently something like 6 people per acre if they were just eating wheat for calories with high output farming. Home style hand farming probably half that? So you'd need 1/3 acre or so? (In Kansas, probably more land in less ideal places)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lemgrub]
    #27631218 - 01/24/22 04:36 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)







Natalensis, lpeu, and king oyster on corn cob pellets in bottles.

Started doing this during the coir shortages. Each bag is 40 lbs for $10 makes roughly 140qts of substrate. I mix roughly 30% hydrated oats with hydrated corncob.

I am experimenting with mono designs atm but I've pretty well settled on pint widemouth bottles as I can cook them at 18psi and not worry about warpage.

Planning to publish a Tek when I have more photos, mono design and work flow dialed.
Keep an eye on my LAGM if you have any interest.

I'd love to try a chipper shredder and corn stalks/cobs ground together.

In a true can't get shit scenario I'd use composted grass, leaves, food waste and wood.

I unintentionally grow all kinds of mushrooms in my compost. Many grass loving species like cubes

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Drboomer]
    #27631317 - 01/24/22 06:13 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I used spawn and black mulch in a half barrel pretty successfully under shade. Just had to water it regularly. A bag of yard waste could easily be swapped for the grain spawn, just layer it.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #27631520 - 01/24/22 09:31 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Is this cast iron hot plate 100% safe for using with a 23qt PC?

https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-CB-30-Cast-Iron-Single-Stainless/dp/B01IA3H8QM

Ive heart electrical hot plates can be risky with this size PC

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ozbuckley]
    #27631555 - 01/24/22 10:10 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Risky how exactly please ozbuckley?

Only risk I can see is you waiting a long time to come to pressure, burner seems pretty weak for a 23 at only 1300w

Someone here surely knows the minimum required... that must be close to the bare minimum


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ozbuckley] * 1
    #27631621 - 01/24/22 11:13 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Is this cast iron hot plate 100% safe for using with a 23qt PC?

https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-CB-30-Cast-Iron-Single-Stainless/dp/B01IA3H8QM

Ive heart electrical hot plates can be risky with this size PC

Thanks




Those burners have a heat activated safety that cuts the power when the unit gets hot... so it will never run on full. The only way to get the full 1300 is to buy a Cadco or some other professional single burner that has a dial that runs at the setting, regardless of heat.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ozbuckley]
    #27631626 - 01/24/22 11:19 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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ozbuckley said:
Is this cast iron hot plate 100% safe for using with a 23qt PC?

https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-CB-30-Cast-Iron-Single-Stainless/dp/B01IA3H8QM

Ive heart electrical hot plates can be risky with this size PC

Thanks




That’s what I use and honestly it’s a bitch. It works for sure but it takes 30 minutes to get to a point I can vent it, so 40 to vent. Then after throwing the rocker on it’s 30 minutes until it hits pressure, so an hour and ten minutes before I can actually set my timer.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wall.E]
    #27631630 - 01/24/22 11:28 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Wall.E said:
Quote:

ozbuckley said:
Is this cast iron hot plate 100% safe for using with a 23qt PC?

https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-CB-30-Cast-Iron-Single-Stainless/dp/B01IA3H8QM

Ive heart electrical hot plates can be risky with this size PC

Thanks




That’s what I use and honestly it’s a bitch. It works for sure but it takes 30 minutes to get to a point I can vent it, so 40 to vent. Then after throwing the rocker on it’s 30 minutes until it hits pressure, so an hour and ten minutes before I can actually set my timer.




Thanks for the info. I guess as long as time isn't an issue, it works safely then.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #27631632 - 01/24/22 11:29 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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ozbuckley said:
Is this cast iron hot plate 100% safe for using with a 23qt PC?

https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-CB-30-Cast-Iron-Single-Stainless/dp/B01IA3H8QM

Ive heart electrical hot plates can be risky with this size PC

Thanks




Those burners have a heat activated safety that cuts the power when the unit gets hot... so it will never run on full. The only way to get the full 1300 is to buy a Cadco or some other professional single burner that has a dial that runs at the setting, regardless of heat.




Would it be safe for a burner like Cadco to run at a high heat setting over a long period of time though?

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