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Re: The Hericium Thread [Re: taku]
#27587879 - 12/20/21 01:08 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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taku said: I did qt. Jars with a 1/4" hole and poly stuffing as a filter. Worked great and grew decent enough. Didn't have any issues cleaning them, just used a stick with a scrubber end, the type you use for a glass or a water bottle. Anyway, only did one batch to gain some experience with bottle method. Want to try again in the future though, liked it.
Cool. Hopefully that size hole is big enough for the 2 qt jars I have growing. How'd you go about inoculating yours?
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That's why I asked cause the main thing I'd be worried about is gas exchange. 1/4" hole isn't much for that size of jar especially the closer the mycelium gets to the bottom. Hopefully you don't have that issue though.
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Re: The Hericium Thread [Re: Forrester]
#27587893 - 12/20/21 02:48 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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You think it'd be worth sterilizing a tool and stabbing a quick hole in the top and throwing on another filter, since the top is already colonized with a nice mat of mycelium? Or would the risk of contamination outweigh the benefits of better gas exchange?
Also for future reference, how many/what size holes would you say is enough for a 2 qt jar? I've seen people use tyvek where the whole top can breathe, but it doesn't seem worth how much it would dry out the substrate, especially in the winter.
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I inoculated in an SAB. Just opened the jars, dumped in my spawn, closed. No contam, all went well.
I have a flow hood now so would make that process much easier if I replicate my test.
If 1/4" worked for 1 qt., Maybe 1/2" for 2qt?
For now, just see how the 1/4" plays out. Better to know definitive things that may have gone wrong than have a wild variable - like popping the lid mid colonization - throw everything.
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Re: The Hericium Thread [Re: taku]
#27588177 - 12/20/21 11:07 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's what I figured. Well I'll post updates as it progresses. guess I'll know soon enough if it stalls out.
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Re: The Hericium Thread [Re: taku]
#27588470 - 12/20/21 03:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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taku said: For now, just see how the 1/4" plays out. Better to know definitive things that may have gone wrong than have a wild variable - like popping the lid mid colonization - throw everything.
^^^that
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Re: The Hericium Thread [Re: Forrester]
#27589594 - 12/21/21 03:04 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just tossing in a picture from an older grow so I can find this thread again. I am on a second flush after letting a jar sit in the fridge for several months over the summer and have some more on agar now.
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Ok the mycelium in this jar is going apeshit but I have a concern. Is this sort of moisture condensation looking stuff bacteria or is it normal? It doesn't look like bacteria to me, especially in the context it appeared. Every jar I have has started to have little spacklings of moisture when the mycelium started it get thick and bright white looking. Is this normal? Clear metabolites? Hard to believe it's bacteria up against such healthy mycelial growth. Thanks, and happy new year
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Looks normal to me.
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Thanks! Getting close to fruiting time.
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I wanted to say hi to everyone here. I've been reading and learning a lot. I started kind of backwards. I got a lions mane block in November 2021. First flush I was trying to go cheap and lazy so it was too dry. I added a fogger and the second flush was much prettier and tastier and now I've been working on the clones I took to agar.
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Re: The Hericium Thread [Re: Forrester]
#27616135 - 01/12/22 12:08 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Forrester said: That's why I asked cause the main thing I'd be worried about is gas exchange. 1/4" hole isn't much for that size of jar especially the closer the mycelium gets to the bottom. Hopefully you don't have that issue though.
Well luckily they ended up colonizing just fine! They're in the FC now I'll post pics of the final product.
Hi, DMTFire! Those fruits looks great. I've grown fucked up warty lions mane from kits without enough humidity before too haha. At least they look dope
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Don't mist lion's mane that will cause it to turn brown.
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You're talking about spraying mist directly on it, right? Not ambient mist falling from a humidifier?
I have one primordia in my FC turning a little brown and I moved it away from the flap in the tent that I open (it's very not air tight so I was worried its drying out by the opening). They are growing out of jars laying on their sides.
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How many does everyone usually get? I've just started having success with lions mane and have gotten 2-3 from the few blocks I have. I was getting ready to toss a depleted one and thought I'd re-hydrate by soaking and then toss it back in the fruiting chamber. Anyone have any experience with this? Heard about doing it with oysters, but the time I tried I didn't had any success getting the substrate to absorb any water. This time the block seemed to soak up plenty and regain most of the original weight. I'm hoping for good things
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Re: How many flushes from a 6lb block [Re: father_fungi]
#27617832 - 01/13/22 08:01 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm on my 3rd flush on these blocks. They're all at various stages of recovery/growth. I've been harvesting around 1/2lb per flush.
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Re: How many flushes from a 6lb block [Re: JXAllen]
#27617929 - 01/13/22 10:08 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I do 2 rounds. After 2 the yield is too small to make it worth the space or potential for contam, at least for me.
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Re: How many flushes from a 6lb block [Re: taku]
#27618209 - 01/14/22 08:03 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm getting very nice dense clusters now that I've increased my FAE. However, the tops of my mushrooms start to turn yellow before the teeth begin to elongate. I'm not sure if this is from it being too humid, too dry or something else. I've got them in a martha tent with a humidifier on a controller, currently set to 88rh. Temp is 65F.
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Re: How many flushes from a 6lb block [Re: JXAllen]
#27619765 - 01/15/22 12:08 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I got some jars stalling out. After initial primordia formation I dropped the RH from 95 to 89 (kicks on at 79). What usually causes stalling? There's no browning happening or anything. I cranked the humidifier back up since they were growing fine before. I have one tiny little primordia spining out similar to a coralloides, which I think is just due to a CO2 pocket in the jar mouth. I'm guessing it's a humidity issue rather than light, since primordia formed.
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Re: How many flushes from a 6lb block [Re: Soviet Data]
#27630878 - 01/24/22 11:26 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Southerner said: Would y’all mind helping me figure out what’s going on with lions mane on agar? I’ve read a couple other threads where they experienced the same thing but I’m still having trouble getting it to grow on agar.
I’ve grown a few bags out great but when I take a piece off of one plate to another it is hit or miss. Some plates have been sitting for weeks with nothing visible. I’ve seen it take off on plates before and move it to the same agar recipe and nothing. It’s confusing the hell out of me. Even took a small piece to wheat which took off but as soon as I took a grain back to agar it stalled. Fuckin stumped.
Grain water at 2.4% agar. Indoor temps between 60-70 most of the time.
I accidentally posted this in another thread a little while ago and hijacked it — again, sorry about that. Wanted to post an update in case anyone else experiences this.
I switched my agar from hot soaked grain water using tap water to LME agar using distilled water and the lions mane is growing nicely again on agar. Still not as fast as oyster but now I’m able to use it routinely with the others. 1.5% LME and 2.5% agar in distilled water. Also sped up agar growth for Gymnopilus and Mexicana.
Guessing something in my well water was having an effect as I’ve used grain water from both oats and wheat with the same thing happening. May try hot soaking my grains in distilled water in the future to test it.
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