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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: doc34]
    #2803814 - 06/17/04 10:01 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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A cop can lie to you if you are under investigation to get you to incriminate yourself-persuasion?Entraptment?I think so,but here in the states if you ask a cop if he is a cop,he can tell you whatever he needs to get enough evidence for an arrest-then you WILL KNOW he is a cop!





Entrapment is when a cop convinces you to do something you would normaly not do, if you are a regular pothead and the cop asks if you wanna buy, and you jump all over it, it is not entrapment, if you never have smoked pot and try and say no but the cop insists and you pay him and accept the drugs just to get rid of him it's a different story... dealers arent going to make you buy as we know there is a huge demand....

as for cops lieing to yo about cops, constantly, they will also make up laws to convince you you have done something and you 'better come clean'...

a couple guys were drinking one night and ended up in a farmers recently plowed field... they got a little crazy while they were there and made plenty of tracks... on their way back out they got stuck... having had been drinking and driving they tossed about a dozen cans out of the car several yards away... a cop pulled up behind them and asked the standard questions about license/registration/have you been drinking... it was a little dark but as the sun was about to rise the cop had enough visability to see the cans in the ditch... he asked if they belonged to the guys and they of course denied it...

The cop went to his car, ran the numbers and the guys came back clean with no priors for dui, no suspension and no warrants, the cop waited a couple of more minutes and the returned to the guys, again he asked if the cans had belonged to them, they again denied it... he then informed them that because of a new federal farm program that the farm was a participant in that the farm fell under federal jurisdiction, he was going to retrieve a few of the cans and have the forensics team lift some finger prints and that if they came back as theirs they would be subjected to fines up to $100,000 for each can and as long as 10 years in prison... quite a bit for a simple littering citation... the 2 guys quickly admitted to everything and were both charged with a DUI since neither was willing to admit to being the driver...


a true story about what you can believe from a cop... if you went through the DARE program you are well aware that cops are more than eager to lie to anyone...

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #2803834 - 06/17/04 10:09 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I would of told them to do the finger prints, but then again i dont think id be drunk driving thru the farmers field?


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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: baraka]
    #2804940 - 06/18/04 09:17 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

As under-handed as that COP was... The two guys were drinking and driving. They shouldn't have been doing that, and shouldn't have ended up on someone else's property. From the sound of it, they were pretty trashed... They are fortunate they got stuck in the field, otherwise they may have killed an innocent driver out on the road.

COPS shouldn't lie, but people should be responsible for their actions.

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: endokrin]
    #2806579 - 06/18/04 05:08 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

> COPS shouldn't lie

They are trained to from day one, even before they start. If a cop is badgering you, (in the US), simply ask to speak with legal council before answering any questions.


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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: sancho]
    #2811699 - 06/20/04 06:24 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

cops will do anything to get the job done

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: baraka]
    #2815818 - 06/21/04 11:25 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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I would of told them to do the finger prints, but then again i dont think id be drunk driving thru the farmers field?




I feel the same way about it... fortunately I was not involved in the incident, had it been me, I would have been more than happy to wait for the fingerprints to come back because if they arent willing to print 90% of the actual crime scenes like burglaries and auto thefts they damn sure will not do it for a beer can/DUI... but watching the cop walk into the field to retrieve them would be plenty of enjoyment, I'm sure that since they got stuck there was plenty of mud

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: Seuss]
    #2815867 - 06/21/04 11:45 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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> COPS shouldn't lie

They are trained to from day one, even before they start.  If a cop is badgering you, (in the US), simply ask to speak with legal council before answering any questions.




Good advice. Not only will cops lie to suspects, they'll also lie in court, if they think they can get away with it. NEVER take the word of a cop! :thumbdown:

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: Le_Canard]
    #2816497 - 06/22/04 07:44 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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in england, if they offer it to you, THEYVE just broken the law!





now this is a law I would fully support, why should cops be allowed to do thing regular citizens can't? this is the same reason I think that all law enforcement officers and political officials should subjected to random mandatory extensive drug testing. I'm sure that more than a few of them do just as many drugs as I do and maybe if they couldn't get away with it they'd change the laws accordingly.


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