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Offlinesancho
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police posing as dealers
    #2762953 - 06/04/04 10:59 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

does this ever happen? my friend plans to go to a few concerts this summer and is extremely nervous that police may be selling drugs in order to bust the buyers. he has only heard of police working up the chain (catching a buyer, finding out who he bought from, arresting that guy, finding out who he bought from, and so on). do they ever work in reverse and go down the 'chain'?

the concerts are phish and wakarusa.......

thanks!


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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: sancho]
    #2763068 - 06/04/04 11:38 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

thats what landed one of my brothers in jail. only there was no concert, and there was no chain, the under just posed like a hustler then took in people that tried to buy from him. According to my brother (when we got him out) there were like 30 people taken in that night that way


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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: prince_toadstool]
    #2763334 - 06/04/04 12:52 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

isn't this like coersion or some such?
(not that it matters when you're in jail, but...)

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: sancho]
    #2763349 - 06/04/04 12:55 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

well, you'd have to come up to them and ask for drugs for one.. they can't just come up and say "hey dude want some of this x???" as far as i know.

so just buy from people you already know and/or trust.

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: lukeboots]
    #2763960 - 06/04/04 03:20 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

i didn't ask exactly how it went down (it was kind of a quite ride home from jail with him and his wife) but i know it was for weed, and due to the part of the country I'm from usually if you see an african american standing around certain places in the city its taken forgranted they are selling weed.

i think the way it works is that they can imply they are dealers but not say it outright. like on Reno 911 in the headshop


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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: prince_toadstool]
    #2764382 - 06/04/04 07:49 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Never Trust Anyone!!!!!
Only buy from friends that you have known for years. It ain't worth goin' to jail for weed. If you can't get weed, drink!!! or fuck till you fall asleep and worry about scoring tomorrow.

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: beatlebangboy]
    #2764408 - 06/04/04 08:01 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, but its not weed my friend wants......hopefully at these concerts there will be lsd- something not found around here. as he knows no one at the concerts.......

anyway, at a HUGE (around 30,000 people) event, i think they would be more concerned about general safety (bomb, trampling, violent drunk people) and not about people smoking pot and using lsd...right?

i know it is an unlikely senerio at a 30,000 people concert that you happen to stumble across ONE under cover cop while hundreds of others are selling, but still, i want to know how likely it is......i REALLY dont want to get in any legal trouble.....

thanks guys for your responses

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: sancho]
    #2764419 - 06/04/04 08:06 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

No one can give you a percent number that you will get busted. You have to be smart and rely on your intuition. Stay around the older heads and make friends, they tend to look out for the young ones.

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: Organic]
    #2764428 - 06/04/04 08:11 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

I still say, NEVER TRUST ANYONE!!!!!
When you go to a concert, bring your own stash.
I was recently at a Dead show and the sweet smell of opium permiated the air. I really wanted to try (and buy) some. But you know what I said? NEVER TRUST ANYONE!!!
I'd rather go straight then spend time in jail.

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: sancho]
    #2764434 - 06/04/04 08:13 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Well, if you live in a larger city, I'd say your chances are greater of getting busted. I've never heard of small-town cops trying something like this, at least not where I am. But as always, be wary! :eek:

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: sancho]
    #2765431 - 06/05/04 02:59 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

"Want a joint?"

"Huh?"

"Everyone knows cops have the best pot!"

Whoever guesses the movie that quotes from gets 5 shrooms :laugh:

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: sancho]
    #2778759 - 06/09/04 05:38 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Actually cops can just come up to and ask if you want to buy (insert drug here) as long as they don't talk you into buying it. If it was something that you would do normally then it's not entrapment.

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: discoabe]
    #2778862 - 06/09/04 06:09 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Just ask the fawker if he's a cop, don't they have to say yes if you are in the states, otherwise that is entrapment.
yes no????


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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: dastats]
    #2779108 - 06/09/04 07:45 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

NO


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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: dastats]
    #2779784 - 06/09/04 11:22 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

dastats said:
Just ask the fawker if he's a cop, don't they have to say yes if you are in the states, otherwise that is entrapment.
yes no????




Not true. You think a cop is going to tell some crackhead on the street who is strapped that he's a cop? Doubtful.

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: Rat]
    #2779800 - 06/09/04 11:34 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Cops never have to say they are a cop if you ask them, unless ofcourse they're arresting you or something, but then they'll tell ya anyway.

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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: sancho]
    #2780406 - 06/10/04 06:35 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

A cop can lie to you if you are under investigation to get you to incriminate yourself-persuasion?Entraptment?I think so,but here in the states if you ask a cop if he is a cop,he can tell you whatever he needs to get enough evidence for an arrest-then you WILL KNOW he is a cop!

If I jokeingly tell you." I am going to sell you an ounce of cocaine"-I can be charged with"conspiracy "even though I lied to you,and I will be charged if heard through a cop's ears!
But if that same cop tells you"I am going to sell you an ounce of cocaine",he will not be charged,Investigative tactic's(ingnorant ass laws!)and if you offer to accept,in anyway(jokeing or otherwise)you will be charged with"conspiracy ",FREEDOM RINGS BABY!!!!!!!!


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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: doc34]
    #2780983 - 06/10/04 09:55 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

bastid cops!!!!


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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: sancho]
    #2781162 - 06/10/04 10:53 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Only buy from the w00ks they will be easy to spot.


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Re: police posing as dealers [Re: sancho]
    #2798914 - 06/16/04 12:01 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

in england, if they offer it to you, THEYVE just broken the law!


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