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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: epilectric] * 1
    #27627288 - 01/21/22 03:04 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

Acid fries you bro no matter where it came from nor what it was purposed for. With my weaker acid I just take more, it does exactly the same thing as the stronger acid.


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: epilectric]
    #27627403 - 01/21/22 04:34 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

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ok so i found out that the stomach trouble came a) from drinking too much black tea and energy drink which i have reduced greatly for that reason and b) from eating during the trip causing digestion issues... the acid seems to be very pure and the nausea just a basic side effect from the serotonergic activity.

i do agree by now that eventual physical side effects are almost always the result of lsd interacting with the serotonin system, and not of any impurity.

still i had the impression that the 2 batches (swiss / american), while laid at the same strength, hit my receptors differently and others confirmed that.. the experiences varied accordingly and consistently, but i can neither verify it, nor explain why...



LSD is trippy like that

seeing as it was liquid and high in strength, it only makes sense that acid was trying to get you to listen to your body.

I’ve eaten certain junk foods while tripping and the acid amped up the junk foods stomach aches and lack of nutrition feeling you get if you eat too many flaming hot Cheetos. you bring up energy drank, that stuff can make people feel sick even in low doses even when not on LSD.


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: Northerner]
    #27627928 - 01/22/22 04:33 AM (2 years, 25 days ago)

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Acid fries you bro no matter where it came from nor what it was purposed for. With my weaker acid I just take more, it does exactly the same thing as the stronger acid.





being a low doser these days, i'm looking more for therapeutic, antidepressant benefits rather than frying my brains off... and at least for this purpose, i notice obvious differences between the batches 🤷


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: epilectric]
    #27627970 - 01/22/22 06:04 AM (2 years, 25 days ago)

At microgram doses LSD is LSD.

I was a big believer in LSD difference in the past, totally convinced. Things and experience changed my mind.


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: Northerner]
    #27628238 - 01/22/22 10:42 AM (2 years, 25 days ago)

just it clarify,
low doses to micro doses of the Swiss Czech you like and enjoy still gives that stomach discomfort?


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: candyman345]
    #27628251 - 01/22/22 10:53 AM (2 years, 25 days ago)

The body is one incredible complex, yet simply understood thing, to stomach cramps that could be maybe anything related to stomach a digestive organs.  Easy enough, when have stomach cramps, try a teaspoon or two baking soda in water to ease that gut.

I see it if repeated cramps to dose, body letting know of agitation to the dose and experience to come and letting mind know not needed.



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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: Northerner]
    #27628288 - 01/22/22 11:20 AM (2 years, 25 days ago)

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At microgram doses LSD is LSD.

I was a big believer in LSD difference in the past, totally convinced. Things and experience changed my mind.





took 30 mics this time... i feel it more instantly.. maybe you're right


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: candyman345]
    #27628293 - 01/22/22 11:22 AM (2 years, 25 days ago)

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just it clarify,
low doses to micro doses of the Swiss Czech you like and enjoy still gives that stomach discomfort?




it's swiss, not czech :wink: and yea i enjoy them and they still tend to give me that discomfort but i learned to adjust and respond to it (eating less, right things)


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: epilectric]
    #27628470 - 01/22/22 01:43 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

wait so you get nausea from micro doses?
Or is it rare you micro that Swiss?


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: epilectric]
    #27628511 - 01/22/22 02:07 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

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At microgram doses LSD is LSD.

I was a big believer in LSD difference in the past, totally convinced. Things and experience changed my mind.





took 30 mics this time... i feel it more instantly.. maybe you're right



It's a molecule, it can only possibly be one thing. It's not like it's an element that can bond with other things.

What changed my mind on the topic is I got someone else to dose me out of the stash i was certain I could tell the difference between. I had no idea. Wrong, wrong and wrong again. It's an interesting experiment, if you've got someone you can trust it's worth doing for yourself.

If we go back a few years you'll find posts by me saying I can absolutely tell the difference between acids, then I just go silent on the subject.  :lol:


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: Northerner]
    #27628521 - 01/22/22 02:14 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

yea i have to admit i basically arrived at the same conclusion today with your help and the help of acid. acid = acid :laugh:


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: candyman345]
    #27628681 - 01/22/22 04:36 PM (2 years, 24 days ago)

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wait so you get nausea from micro doses?
Or is it rare you micro that Swiss?




yes, nausea can come and go anytime.. had it with the new batch today too at times


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: epilectric]
    #27631679 - 01/25/22 12:58 AM (2 years, 22 days ago)

why is northerner banned? :frown:


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: epilectric] * 1
    #27631929 - 01/25/22 09:42 AM (2 years, 22 days ago)



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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: Kalendula]
    #27631960 - 01/25/22 10:12 AM (2 years, 22 days ago)

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Ban Lotto




lol.. how long do you get banned there?

ok 7 days.. lmao


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LSA? [Re: epilectric]
    #27832683 - 06/23/22 08:33 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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yea i have to admit i basically arrived at the same conclusion today with your help and the help of acid. acid = acid :laugh:




sorry for keeping to beat this old horse but i have to retract this statement.. maybe pure acid = pure acid

but after trying the pharmaceutical one... and then trying the swiss again... and then another normal/pure batch.. i now am 100% certain that the swiss one is different - more body load and visuals even at lower doses

the two other batches did feel exactly the same - no nausea whatsoever

so either it was a bad synthesis, impurities or ... LSA? does LSA cause nausea and fractals even at lower doses?


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: Northerner]
    #27833575 - 06/23/22 07:54 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Acid fries you bro no matter where it came from nor what it was purposed for. With my weaker acid I just take more, it does exactly the same thing as the stronger acid.




I completely disagree.  I've had some LSD that in it's raw form was a black goop.  When in concentrate liquid, it was black and opaque, you couldn't even see through the clear glass bottle it was in.  During the come up, I was dry heaving and shaking so bad I thought I would die if I wasn't certain it was LSD.  I was VERY close to going to the ER, but since I knew it was LSD, I didn't and was fine of course.

I've also had LSD that was large clear crystal chunks.  That stuff when dissolved didn't change the color of the liquid at all.  The come up was very strong, but the trip was so clean I felt like I was about to just turn into a paisley and drop into the aether.

I have tried over a dozen batches of LSD crystal from various producers, and every one was different, yet centered around the same core experience.


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: Typerwritermonky] * 1
    #27833731 - 06/23/22 09:42 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I dunno man. I've eaten very many different acids from many different sources over the decades. It all kinda just seems like acid.

The same batch that put me in a dark heavy hole a few months ago put me in a light sparkling wonderland this last weekend.

Tried the blind test a few times, getting friends to dose me out of a selection of different acids. I got it wrong every time, couldn't guess which one.

Also had some batches that were consistently fucking great experiences as well. Figure that. Totally inconsistent in its consistency.

I'm not an expert or anything, but I've ridden this rodeo a bunch of times and haven't yet found a rule for batches and purity and effect.


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #27834669 - 06/24/22 03:26 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

all i know is that only one batch gives me nausea, others don't


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Re: swiss liquid - stomach trouble [Re: epilectric]
    #27834826 - 06/24/22 05:00 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Acid is acid. There are no ergot alkaloids active in small enough amounts to affect a trip. Acid just causes stomach trouble sometimes.

I never, ever, ever used to get nausea with acid until one time I did. No clue why. That's acid for you. You never quite know what to expect.


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