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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#27622494 - 01/17/22 01:48 PM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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nosf3r4tu said: Yeah... indoor pans hold a lot of water, around 95% ime. I wanna try a semp micro dose tomorrow but I'm not sure about the dose. I'll go for 0.05g and see how that goes.
95% for Cambo, Cyans are the normal 90% IME.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
#27622498 - 01/17/22 01:49 PM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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These are just inviting for an adventure!
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: bagga]
#27622500 - 01/17/22 01:51 PM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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That's an insane tub mate
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Chromosome] 1
#27622522 - 01/17/22 02:03 PM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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Lol yeah Cambos will ruin your day the first time you dry a batch and weigh them.
I really want to take some prints so I’m trying hard not to pluck a bunch out to clone and eat.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melgo] 3
#27623095 - 01/18/22 12:58 AM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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Melgo said: Odissey! My Man! Thanks for the trip report!

I am so glad you got what you wanted: a deep self-exploration. Really Dude! I'm happy for you and I hope you'll get out of this depression. I know what it feels like and I'm rooting for ya 
May I ask a few questions?
- How long was the come up?
- How long was the trip with CEV?
- How long did you stay in the "mushroom space", after CEVs were finished?

Hey Melgo! Actually, part of the decision to tale subtrops instead of pan jambos was due to your request in another thread 
Thanks a lot for the encouragement. I was always a super positive "it's all good" person, I could not imagine before that I would one day have a depression but here we are.
I drank a tea with solids included so it seems there were two stages. One fast come up (after 30 mins more or less) to a milder experience,and then a second come up around 2 hours later to the absolute ineffable experience. The total trip was like 6 hous but it felt like more than one lifetime, time was completely bended and twisted with holes here and there 
I remember looking at my gf (great shaman btw!) and genuinely not knowing whether I was me or her
Edited by odissey (01/18/22 01:06 AM)
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey]
#27623147 - 01/18/22 03:12 AM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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This makes me so incredibly excited to get these spores onto agar, got them from a friend in england, the print is from 8/20/20 though, hope theyre still viable
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] 3
#27623361 - 01/18/22 10:07 AM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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nosf3r4tu said: I wanna try a semp micro dose tomorrow but I'm not sure about the dose. I'll go for 0.05g and see how that goes.
That was nice. I think i hit the sweet spot from the first try. Felt just a slight tingle and I was active and productive throughout the day.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] 1
#27623413 - 01/18/22 10:51 AM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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Subtrops dried needs a Miraculix test
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Trip report - wow.. they pack a punch.
I'm not going bury the lead here - I prefer these to pans and cubes by a wide margin. I have some nats that I haven't tried yet, but unless they rock the house I can't imagine how they would be better.
Trip dosage reference: A basic trip for me is 2.5g dried APE. That's been my standard go to for a while. Too much for me (brain melting disorientation) is 50g ape (fresh). I prefer to trip fresh, but life doesn't always work out that way 
25g semperviva = ~40g APE = ~20-25g pans (fresh). Your mileage might vary.
- 25g fresh boiled as tea with lemon.
- I weigh ~170lbs
- Onset on empty stomach was ~15-20min. Pretty normal trip curve, 3 hours peak, + 2 hour come down.
- Taste - very mild
- Nausea - very low for the potency.
- CEV - extreme at the start, dropping off after the first 2 hours.
- OEV - low at the start, extreme at the peak, very high overall.
- Colors - bright, crisp, intense geometric patterns
- Disorientation - high at the start (the usual for strong trip). Smoother ride than pans or cubes at similar dosage.
- Euphoria/energy - high - much more giggly than pans or cubes.
25g was at my max fun tolerance. I don't think I'll go higher, might knock it back to 20g fresh (or keep it at 2.5g if dry).
It surprised me, they had very little flavor so didn't expect much. Onset was very fast and that flagged that it was going to be a wild ride.
CEVs were very intense early on... you know the kind where you don't want to close your eyes... but also... yeah you do cause riding that inner universe is the whole point?? Very intense. Stronger CEVs than APE, similar to pans.
OEVs were also very strong, I had difficulty looking at my GFs face for a little while, it was wild. Her face also turned into mine for a bit.. something something egocentric I guess
Nausea was very low for the trip intensity - a little but barely noticeable. The high was close to 40g of fresh ape, but at that dosage of ape I can barely keep it down.
My GF did 15g, we had a blast (she is smaller and less tolerant). It was a really nice, high energy, trip. Low nausea and low flavor are huge bonuses, given how easy they are to grow, they just de-throned pans for me.
Thanks again to Ambrose for the spores, I really appreciate it   I'll pay it forward with a swab giveaway next week.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: bagga]
#27623653 - 01/18/22 02:40 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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Thanks for the report. Have you had any Mexicana, like tamps? I wonder how these compare. I would assume they are the same.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hindsight]
#27623704 - 01/18/22 03:32 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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Great report, thank you! Sounds to me also like it's very similar to Tamps, at least the energy aspect. To me they are super energetic and the energy often leads to uncontrollable giggling. Like a thunderstorm in your body, haha.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Adas] 1
#27623718 - 01/18/22 03:47 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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Man I can’t wait to eat these.
So it’s sounding more and more like they’re around pan potency.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a] 1
#27623728 - 01/18/22 03:55 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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Same. Tripping for me at level 3+ is always a bit (and sometimes a lot) dicey, so these seem like they might be more uplifting and less edgy which would be a dream come true.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hindsight]
#27623743 - 01/18/22 04:09 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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Think I see primordia in my bags, but pipedreams. I want to eat these fresh, sitting on cubes but refuse to eat 'em. Been a good 8 months since I tripped.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hindsight] 1
#27623831 - 01/18/22 05:31 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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Haven't tried tamps or mexicana yet.
I have small batch of tamps (Beolah) going at the moment. Fruiting but lookin a bit stressed. I think they want more heat and airflow than they're getting. Will still get a trip or two out of them but it won't be a heroic tub.
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: bagga]
#27623891 - 01/18/22 06:36 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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Thanks for the trip report bagga. Sounds pretty wild, can’t wait to give ‘em a go, assuming that my grows go as expected lol
Also great tray Mario
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: odissey]
#27624062 - 01/18/22 10:59 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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odissey said: Hey Melgo! Actually, part of the decision to tale subtrops instead of pan jambos was due to your request in another thread 
Thanks a lot for the encouragement. I was always a super positive "it's all good" person, I could not imagine before that I would one day have a depression but here we are.
I drank a tea with solids included so it seems there were two stages. One fast come up (after 30 mins more or less) to a milder experience,and then a second come up around 2 hours later to the absolute ineffable experience. The total trip was like 6 hous but it felt like more than one lifetime, time was completely bended and twisted with holes here and there 
I remember looking at my gf (great shaman btw!) and genuinely not knowing whether I was me or her 
Well I'm glad I requested it because what a trip report  
Thanks for the details Man! And it's cool you had someone with you during the experience. Did you listen to music during the trip?
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: nosf3r4tu] 1
#27624065 - 01/18/22 11:00 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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nosf3r4tu said:
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nosf3r4tu said: I wanna try a semp micro dose tomorrow but I'm not sure about the dose. I'll go for 0.05g and see how that goes.
That was nice. I think i hit the sweet spot from the first try. Felt just a slight tingle and I was active and productive throughout the day.
Sweet! Thanks for the info on microdosing these
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Re: Official P. Subtropicales/Semperviva Thread [Re: bagga]
#27624067 - 01/18/22 11:02 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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bagga said: Trip report - wow.. they pack a punch.
I'm not going bury the lead here - I prefer these to pans and cubes by a wide margin. I have some nats that I haven't tried yet, but unless they rock the house I can't imagine how they would be better.
Trip dosage reference: A basic trip for me is 2.5g dried APE. That's been my standard go to for a while. Too much for me (brain melting disorientation) is 50g ape (fresh). I prefer to trip fresh, but life doesn't always work out that way 
25g semperviva = ~40g APE = ~20-25g pans (fresh). Your mileage might vary.
- 25g fresh boiled as tea with lemon.
- I weigh ~170lbs
- Onset on empty stomach was ~15-20min. Pretty normal trip curve, 3 hours peak, + 2 hour come down.
- Taste - very mild
- Nausea - very low for the potency.
- CEV - extreme at the start, dropping off after the first 2 hours.
- OEV - low at the start, extreme at the peak, very high overall.
- Colors - bright, crisp, intense geometric patterns
- Disorientation - high at the start (the usual for strong trip). Smoother ride than pans or cubes at similar dosage.
- Euphoria/energy - high - much more giggly than pans or cubes.
25g was at my max fun tolerance. I don't think I'll go higher, might knock it back to 20g fresh (or keep it at 2.5g if dry).
It surprised me, they had very little flavor so didn't expect much. Onset was very fast and that flagged that it was going to be a wild ride.
CEVs were very intense early on... you know the kind where you don't want to close your eyes... but also... yeah you do cause riding that inner universe is the whole point?? Very intense. Stronger CEVs than APE, similar to pans.
OEVs were also very strong, I had difficulty looking at my GFs face for a little while, it was wild. Her face also turned into mine for a bit.. something something egocentric I guess
Nausea was very low for the trip intensity - a little but barely noticeable. The high was close to 40g of fresh ape, but at that dosage of ape I can barely keep it down.
My GF did 15g, we had a blast (she is smaller and less tolerant). It was a really nice, high energy, trip. Low nausea and low flavor are huge bonuses, given how easy they are to grow, they just de-throned pans for me.
Thanks again to Ambrose for the spores, I really appreciate it   I'll pay it forward with a swab giveaway next week.
bagga! Thanks for trip report dude, love how detailled it is
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