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#27614195 - 01/10/22 02:27 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Disclaimer: I dont give a fuck about the vaccine. I got 2 shots. Dont care at all either way. Its just some stupid shot I get for free.
These popular social media posters are getting banned for posting videos that they are literally mocking anti-vax people. But because their video includes some video of the anti-vax people..... they themselves are getting banned.
What do you guys think about censorship?
I think since its a private business they can do whatever they want. But we can also comment on if we think it is right or wrong.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Oldnameforgotten] 2
#27614288 - 01/10/22 04:34 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Private business has the right to do what they want. However, at this point in history, many internet companies have become so ubiquitous in daily life that one can argue that they should be regulated as utilities rather then private organizations
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Hikeadellic]
#27614350 - 01/10/22 06:13 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Regulations on private companies start getting mighty close to compelled speech. There are arguments to be made in favor of a nationalized social network run by the government, which would have first amendment protections.
I don't think regulating internet companies as utilities is the way to go, either. Internet access? sure. That should absolutely be regulated as a utility. But making something like facebook or twitter a utility seems a step too far, in my opinion. There is a good argument to be made that being a functional adult in modern society requires internet access, but I have no trouble being a functional adult without twitter or facebook.
In response to OP:
This is an excellent illustration of actual bias on social media. Conservatives are, more often than not, treated with kid gloves, and their cries of censorship are beyond bullshit. Conservative voices get a whole lot more leeway in breaking the rules before they get the banhammer, when compared to leftists.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Kryptos]
#27614375 - 01/10/22 06:42 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think an interesting problem in censorship of social media...... is that you cant be 100 percent uncensored. If you did you would have death threats / plans, child porn, executions and shit.
And if you do moderate stuff like that specifically.... it would take tons and tons of money to do so. And it would never be perfect.
But you shouldn't censor things like flat-earthers. But maybe you should censor nazis that organize to hate whatever race? But what if they arent hurting anyone? Just being racist?
Its very tough. Every way you look at it.
Where should the line in the sand be? And who will dictate where the line is? And what system can accurately punish those that cross the line?
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Oldnameforgotten]
#27614382 - 01/10/22 06:51 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Every company should decide where their line is. And they will dictate and enforce that line, as they see fit.
I got banned off Parler REAL quick, for example, because I don't fit their...let's say "vibe". And that's fine. Back when I reddited, I was banned off r/conservative for the exact same reason. And that is also fine, because it is their platform, and in the case or r/conservative, it's literally in their rules that people left of Cheney will be banned immediately.
Any company can censor whatever it wants.
If the US had a national social media network, then that would be different. Now the courts can get involved. Although it would almost certainly be very much sesame credit like, to the point where I fear that will lead to mandatory profiles. Well, not technically "mandatory", but effectively mandatory. Like a driver's license.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Kryptos] 2
#27614569 - 01/10/22 11:14 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kryptos said:
In response to OP:
This is an excellent illustration of actual bias on social media. Conservatives are, more often than not, treated with kid gloves, and their cries of censorship are beyond bullshit. Conservative voices get a whole lot more leeway in breaking the rules before they get the banhammer, when compared to leftists.
Cry harder that basically no one except shroomery political subforum actually gives a fuck or wants to listen to low testosterone and effeminate leftist bullshit
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: MightyWhite]
#27614606 - 01/11/22 12:17 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm drunk as fuck. Ignore that post. Lul.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: MightyWhite] 1
#27614815 - 01/11/22 07:45 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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MightyWhite said:
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Kryptos said:
In response to OP:
This is an excellent illustration of actual bias on social media. Conservatives are, more often than not, treated with kid gloves, and their cries of censorship are beyond bullshit. Conservative voices get a whole lot more leeway in breaking the rules before they get the banhammer, when compared to leftists.
Cry harder that basically no one except shroomery political subforum actually gives a fuck or wants to listen to low testosterone and effeminate leftist bullshit
Clearly you like effeminate low T bullshit.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Kryptos]
#27616925 - 01/13/22 04:53 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alot of people are to sensitive these days. If it dont go along with there idea of thinking or feelings they get all triggerd an bent out of shape🤣.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Mach z 800]
#27624273 - 01/19/22 07:44 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Conservatives think that lefties get favoritism. Lefties think that conservatives get favoritism. The truth is that everyone wants to be the victim because victims are innocent and there's power in innocence.
As far as speech goes, the government telling me what speech I need to allow on my website is just as reprehensible as the government telling me what speech I can't have on my website.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Enlil]
#27624290 - 01/19/22 08:00 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm still trying to figure out who "Popular Social Media People" are.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Brian Jones]
#27624315 - 01/19/22 08:41 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think Justin Beiber?
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Enlil]
#27624822 - 01/19/22 04:31 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, I had no idea what was meant. If it's Bieber, etc, it diminishes the importance of this thread. But at any rate, as you said, people have the right to free speech and private platforms have the right to regulate content.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Enlil]
#27625511 - 01/20/22 09:15 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Conservatives think that lefties get favoritism. Lefties think that conservatives get favoritism. The truth is that everyone wants to be the victim because victims are innocent and there's power in innocence.
As far as speech goes, the government telling me what speech I need to allow on my website is just as reprehensible as the government telling me what speech I can't have on my website.
America is full of sensitive cry babys there is no such thing as free speech. We have what id call tallerated speech. You can say only things that wont trigger people into canceling you because they are sensitive bitches.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Mach z 800] 1
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I would never call anything " tallerated " .
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Psilynut2] 1
#27625952 - 01/20/22 03:12 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe the result of a productive afternoon on The Rack?
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Psilynut2]
#27626127 - 01/20/22 05:17 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Psilynut2 said: I would never call anything " tallerated " .
lol i kinda messed that lol i love your guys zinngers they make my day.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Mach z 800]
#27626193 - 01/20/22 06:15 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alot of people are to sensitive these days. If it dont go along with there idea of thinking or feelings they get all triggerd an bent out of shape.
Mmm when I was growing up before the internet people were way more sensitive , or the same . A parent of these two kids I rode the school bus with actually came on the bus and threatened to kill me because I told his son and his daughter that their mom was open 24 hrs a day like the local gas station called Allsups .
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Psilynut2]
#27636823 - 01/28/22 10:19 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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There should be no censorship for the same reason MySpace didn't censor anyone. Free speech is free speech.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
#27638275 - 01/30/22 06:34 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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OutsideOfMyMind said: There should be no censorship for the same reason MySpace didn't censor anyone. Free speech is free speech.
Maybe in the utopia in your head, but in this world, everyone participates in censorship.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Enlil]
#27638954 - 01/30/22 07:45 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enlil said:
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OutsideOfMyMind said: There should be no censorship for the same reason MySpace didn't censor anyone. Free speech is free speech.
Maybe in the utopia in your head, but in this world, everyone participates in censorship.
Speaking as a free speech advocate; you shouldn’t be saying that.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: The Ecstatic]
#27638963 - 01/30/22 07:54 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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These mods are having a banner year.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: ModularMind] 1
#27639168 - 01/31/22 01:15 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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For good antivax schadenfreude feels check out https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/
The antivaxxers are dying en masse these days so new content practically every day recently
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: koods]
#27639170 - 01/31/22 01:18 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Remember this cop who was the darling of right wing media for resigning over a vaccine mandate?
He dead. From covid. What a fucking loser.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Oldnameforgotten]
#27640658 - 02/01/22 10:12 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oldnameforgotten said: Disclaimer: I dont give a fuck about the vaccine. I got 2 shots. Dont care at all either way. Its just some stupid shot I get for free.
These popular social media posters are getting banned for posting videos that they are literally mocking anti-vax people. But because their video includes some video of the anti-vax people..... they themselves are getting banned.
What do you guys think about censorship?
I think since its a private business they can do whatever they want. But we can also comment on if we think it is right or wrong.
You may think differently, or not, after viewing this admission from the Pfizer CEO about their new prophylaxis and treatment pill:
https://rumble.com/vrtcq7-pfizers-ceo-bouria-talks-about-how-the-new-covid-piiis-will-have-a-microchi.htm
Although the vaccine itself does not have a microchip that we know of or confirmed detectable biomarker that can be scanned easily, would you receive an immunization that was 100% guaranteed to immunize you from all future variants if it had this tech included?
The video is irresponsibly titled and is from 2018 and not related to any COVID treatments. I am still leaving a link to it as it is the tech that I am alarmed by and the far reaching implications of it.
Edited by RedRH (02/04/22 12:46 PM)
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
#27640668 - 02/01/22 10:19 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Video is from 2018, talking about potential new ways to ensure that schizophrenia patients take their schizophrenia pills. Did you even try to fact check this?
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: koods] 1
#27640675 - 02/01/22 10:20 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds like you are gloating over this. If so, the shrooms are not working for you.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Kryptos]
#27640723 - 02/01/22 10:50 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nope. I just commented to his video with a demand for citation. Even if it is as you say, the tech is there and in use. The question still is would you take the pill if it had this tech embedded?
Lies coming from both sides of these issues. If compliance is the goal, something to watch for would be the introduction of this tech in future treatments of any kind. I highly doubt they could get away with it as anything that emits and RF signal can be detected easily enough even if it is just a passive proximity device.
Anyhow, it is due to the proven lies of both sides that we are left in a state of doubt. If this continues, the future could and most likely will be very dire indeed if a much deadlier virus is released. There are those that firmly believe that the planet is overpopulated and they are very wealthy. The question would be how would one protect society from them if their intent is to use their means to actually reduce the population? Could it be that this COVID pandemic is a conditioning exercise? These are just questions and their is no evidence that I know of that it is their intent. My reasoning for posing these questions is that it is possible and therefore, should be prepared for regarding the consequences for attempting to execute on that evil. Just as governments are lagging regarding the threat that hacking presents in the digital age, they are also lagging in the biowarfare age with this virus being evidence of their lack of preparedness. I do not worry about digital threats nor nuclear threats. Biothreats are the true threat to humanity to modify what was in nature to thin out the herd and if it got our of control, kill off the majority of humanity. The citizens of this planet do not trust their governments due to the lies and lack of preparedness to this outbreak. We should be able to expect transparency and truth but so far, this has failed. We are owed assurances from a trustworthy governance. The fact that we do not have a trustworthy governance is our own fault here in the US as we elected them all, regardless of political party, which are two sides of the same coin in my opinion. What I would love to see are the experts on both sides publicly debate this and provide support for their arguments. I wonder why this has not happened. Could both sides of this issue have something to hide that they do not want exposed? Have both sides overplayed their hands? Could be.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
#27640749 - 02/01/22 11:00 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oldnameforgotten said: Disclaimer: I dont give a fuck about the vaccine. I got 2 shots. Dont care at all either way. Its just some stupid shot I get for free.
These popular social media posters are getting banned for posting videos that they are literally mocking anti-vax people. But because their video includes some video of the anti-vax people..... they themselves are getting banned.
What do you guys think about censorship?
I think since its a private business they can do whatever they want. But we can also comment on if we think it is right or wrong.
You may think differently, or not, after viewing this admission from the Pfizer CEO about their new prophylaxis and treatment pill:
https://rumble.com/vrtcq7-pfizers-ceo-bouria-talks-about-how-the-new-covid-piiis-will-have-a-microchi.htm
Although the vaccine itself does not have a microchip that we know of or confirmed detectable biomarker that can be scanned easily, would you receive an immunization that was 100% guaranteed to immunize you from all future variants if it had this tech included?
Nowhere does he say anything about the covid pill. Don’t you get annoyed being lied to by your sources?
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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I own a cellphone, so no, I am not even remotely concerned about someone tracking me through microchips in pills. Why the hell would anybody do that, when they can just track me through my phone?
The reason we were unprepared for this pandemic is the same reason Texas froze over last year: money. It costs money to prepare for things, and it is much more profitable to simply ignore potential future issues and hope that they don't happen. People have been sounding the alarm over a lack of preparedness to a global pandemic for nearly 20 years, but we'd rather cut taxes. Texas's power grid was found to be completely inadequate to survive cold weather conditions back in 2011, but fixing the issues would have cut into profit margins. So a few hundred people died instead. And Texas still hasn't fixed the problem, so it will happen again.
Nobody with even remotely any wealth thinks the world is overpopulated. Anybody that has more than a few coins to rub together knows that they earned their wealth by exploiting the population. The only way they can maintain and grow their wealth is for there to be more population to exploit.
The fact is, the experts are entirely on one side of this equation. Yes, vaccines are good. Nobody that knows what they are talking about disputes this. Yes, climate change is occurring, and nobody that knows what they are talking about disputes this. The "experts" on the other side are unqualified quacks or grifters. There is no point listening to what they have to say.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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You are making assumptions about the virus being released/biological warfare. Or you aren't making the assumptions and instead are warning of a future threat. But that wouldn't necessarily have anything to do with our current COVID situation.
Long story short, you're connecting a lot of dots that most of the rest of us are not.
I don't know about future pandemics, but both sides agree that COVID primarily kills the old and those with comorbidities, so it's a poor mechanism for population reduction. A future pandemic could kill a lot more, but capitalism wants more workers, not less.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Brian Jones]
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: koods]
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koods said:
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RedRH said:
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Oldnameforgotten said: Disclaimer: I dont give a fuck about the vaccine. I got 2 shots. Dont care at all either way. Its just some stupid shot I get for free.
These popular social media posters are getting banned for posting videos that they are literally mocking anti-vax people. But because their video includes some video of the anti-vax people..... they themselves are getting banned.
What do you guys think about censorship?
I think since its a private business they can do whatever they want. But we can also comment on if we think it is right or wrong.
You may think differently, or not, after viewing this admission from the Pfizer CEO about their new prophylaxis and treatment pill:
https://rumble.com/vrtcq7-pfizers-ceo-bouria-talks-about-how-the-new-covid-piiis-will-have-a-microchi.htm
Although the vaccine itself does not have a microchip that we know of or confirmed detectable biomarker that can be scanned easily, would you receive an immunization that was 100% guaranteed to immunize you from all future variants if it had this tech included?
Nowhere does he say anything about the covid pill. Don’t you get annoyed being lied to by your sources?
I commented on his video with a demand for citation. I fail to see how this tech could be beneficial to society if made mandatory for any treatment of any kind with very little exception. Just as the Patriot Act that Bush put into place started with a promise that it will be to monitor foreign threats only and that it would be temporary, they lied on both accounts. Neither the government nor big pharma can be trusted in my opinion. I believe in the autonomy of one's body. Yes it does annoy me when folks lie. I will update this with the reply from the one that posted the video or their failure to respond.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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Who said it was going to be mandatory?
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said: You are making assumptions about the virus being released/biological warfare. Or you aren't making the assumptions and instead are warning of a future threat. But that wouldn't necessarily have anything to do with our current COVID situation.
Long story short, you're connecting a lot of dots that most of the rest of us are not.
I don't know about future pandemics, but both sides agree that COVID primarily kills the old and those with comorbidities, so it's a poor mechanism for population reduction. A future pandemic could kill a lot more, but capitalism wants more workers, not less.
Regarding population reduction, that is what I am referring to: Thinning the herd of the weak. Please note that these are questions I am pondering and I have no clue that any of it would ever come to pass, only the potential being there. These are the questions that I would hope the folks with the big brains are answering and influencing policy to ensure we have a response and to ensure ethical compliance. There is a potential for the dots being connected in the future. There is possibility then there is probability. If the probability is remote, but possible, it is of lower priority until that changes.
In a perfect world we would be a society of positive intent toward our fellow man and woman, but that is not the case. We are fortunate that the pandemic is not as deadly as it could have been had it been a deadlier virus with a fatality rate of even 10%. Had that been the case, folks would be much more compliant, but again, a virus will do what a virus does and nothing will stop it. At best, we can only hope to mitigate the impact. At this point I believe every living person will eventually become infected. It becomes a matter of if it will be asymptomatic or light symptoms or a life threatening event and everything in between. So given what we know, there is still much more to learn. I just read the report leaked from the DoD regarding the impact of vaccination on our armed forces. Have you seen it?
Here is a summary report:
https://oga.trmlx.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/DMED_Report_-_26JAN22.pdf
https://oga.trmlx.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/VISUAL_DHA_DMED_ABNORMALITIES.pdf
Data can be misinterpreted, but at this point, it looks to be accurate.
I also have the raw data from the DMED reports function in the form of an Excel spreadsheet for the years 2016 thru 2021. This data is unique as it is more reliable than VAERS data and regarding the unique demographic being reported: a generally far healthier military population as compared to the general public. For me, this is much more significant than a VAERS report and incidence of error is far less.
If you want the raw data in Excel format, message me with an email to send it to. If you are wary of Excel files, I can export to PDF, but you would lose the cell formulas to verify accuracy on how the sheet data is calculated. They are simple cell based formulas and easy to review. The DMED data does not lie and is the most accurate primary source that one could possibly review. Since the raw data is available, I verified the conclusions of the PDF summaries and found it spot on accurate and have not been manipulated or interpreted wrong.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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Thinning the herd of the weak definitely happens. The ideal worker under capitalism dies the moment they cannot work, or if they have savings, dies the moment those savings run out.
That's kind of the point of the US healthcare system, actually. Private insurance tied to employment ensures that people work until they cannot, at which point their savings are drained by exorbitant prices, and they are left to die penniless.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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Looks fake to me. Suddenly in January 2022 all these health problems are much worse, but very few people in the military were vaccinated in January.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Kryptos]
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That's kind of the point of the US healthcare system, actually. Private insurance tied to employment ensures that people work until they cannot, at which point their savings are drained by exorbitant prices, and they are left to die penniless.
How is that even comparable to COVID deaths among the high risk? Take a look at what COVID vaccines are doing to our armed forces. See my reply above to Koods with the source data from the DMED database. With the vaccine, it could be even the most healthy are subject to additional risk and injury.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: koods]
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koods said: Looks fake to me. Suddenly in January 2022 all these health problems are much worse, but very few people in the military were vaccinated in January.
Assume what you will. The data has been acknowledged by the DoD. They are in the process of hunting down the leaker(s).
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: koods]
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koods said: Looks fake to me. Suddenly in January 2022 all these health problems are much worse, but very few people in the military were vaccinated in January.
On May 20th, 2021, the Army reported that 58% had been vaccinated and 44% had received both shots. You are incorrect regarding your info.
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/2626257/dod-seeing-encouraging-covid-19-vaccination-rates-health-leaders-say/
I am fully vaccinated and I HOPE this is wrong, but so far, it looks accurate.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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Sorry I meant 2021
Also HIV suddenly increased. That makes no sense. This is fake
2020 392 HIV infections for the entire year January 2021 279 infections, an increase per month of over 1000%. Almost nobody was vaccinated in January 2021 and it takes weeks to months to confirm an HIV infection, so infections diagnosed in January would have occurred in October - December. No way that’s the vaccine so you need to find another hypothesis.
Also, strokes didn’t increase in 2020 during covid which caused a huge increase in strokes.
Sure.
It’s honestly embarrassing how ham handed they were faking this data. 2020 good. 2021 bad from day one. Lol
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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Kryptos said: Thinning the herd of the weak definitely happens. The ideal worker under capitalism dies the moment they cannot work, or if they have savings, dies the moment those savings run out.
That's kind of the point of the US healthcare system, actually. Private insurance tied to employment ensures that people work until they cannot, at which point their savings are drained by exorbitant prices, and they are left to die penniless.
How is that even comparable to COVID deaths among the high risk? Take a look at what COVID vaccines are doing to our armed forces. See my reply above to Koods with the source data from the DMED database. With the vaccine, it could be even the most healthy are subject to additional risk and injury.
The defense department has already acknowledged yesterday that the data is false.
Again, this can be shown with even the most basic fact checks. You keep linking random ass sources full of explicitly false claims. Have you ever considered just typing their claims into Google and seeing what pops up?
Edit: another way we know the numbers are false--it reports nearly 900k mental health symptoms. Which means that, of the total 1.4 mil people in the US military, fully two thirds are currently having an acute mental health crisis, according to that (false) data.
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Wtf is wrong with people that they would make the effort to fake data like that, to scare people away from a vaccine that has saved a half million lives. It’s evil.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said: Thinning the herd of the weak definitely happens. The ideal worker under capitalism dies the moment they cannot work, or if they have savings, dies the moment those savings run out.
That's kind of the point of the US healthcare system, actually. Private insurance tied to employment ensures that people work until they cannot, at which point their savings are drained by exorbitant prices, and they are left to die penniless.
How is that even comparable to COVID deaths among the high risk? Take a look at what COVID vaccines are doing to our armed forces. See my reply above to Koods with the source data from the DMED database. With the vaccine, it could be even the most healthy are subject to additional risk and injury.
The defense department has already acknowledged yesterday that the data is false.
Again, this can be shown with even the most basic fact checks. You keep linking random ass sources full of explicitly false claims. Have you ever considered just typing their claims into Google and seeing what pops up?
Edit: another way we know the numbers are false--it reports nearly 900k mental health symptoms. Which means that, of the total 1.4 mil people in the US military, fully two thirds are currently having an acute mental health crisis, according to that (false) data.
I stated previously that I HOPE the data is wrong. This was not an intentionally false claim but a claimed error in the database. I fail to see the intent to deceive. Again, I am damn glad it is in error and only claimed that based on the data given that it appeared accurate. I did research the claim, but that was three days ago. The fact checking did not come until after this date. Your assertion that I just post without performing a due diligence search is therefore incorrect. I went with the data that was available at the time and still ensured that I did not claim it was verified accurate. Show me my error of intent or failure to do a simple search from my previous posts on this report. Again, I even stated I hoped it was not accurate. Expose my intentional lie. You admit they just YESTERDAY acknowledged the data was in error. Show me ANY intent to deceive.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: koods]
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koods said: Wtf is wrong with people that they would make the effort to fake data like that, to scare people away from a vaccine that has saved a half million lives. It’s evil.
Read the DoD statement. It was a database error and no intent to deceive is indicated. They acknowledge the report came from the official database and NOTHING was intentionally faked as you now claim. What is your evidence that this is an intentional fake? Please read the statement regarding this from the DoD.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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Kryptos said: Thinning the herd of the weak definitely happens. The ideal worker under capitalism dies the moment they cannot work, or if they have savings, dies the moment those savings run out.
That's kind of the point of the US healthcare system, actually. Private insurance tied to employment ensures that people work until they cannot, at which point their savings are drained by exorbitant prices, and they are left to die penniless.
How is that even comparable to COVID deaths among the high risk? Take a look at what COVID vaccines are doing to our armed forces. See my reply above to Koods with the source data from the DMED database. With the vaccine, it could be even the most healthy are subject to additional risk and injury.
The defense department has already acknowledged yesterday that the data is false.
Again, this can be shown with even the most basic fact checks. You keep linking random ass sources full of explicitly false claims. Have you ever considered just typing their claims into Google and seeing what pops up?
Edit: another way we know the numbers are false--it reports nearly 900k mental health symptoms. Which means that, of the total 1.4 mil people in the US military, fully two thirds are currently having an acute mental health crisis, according to that (false) data.
I stated previously that I HOPE the data is wrong. This was not an intentionally false claim but a claimed error in the database. I fail to see the intent to deceive. Again, I am damn glad it is in error and only claimed that based on the data given that it appeared accurate. I did research the claim, but that was three days ago. The fact checking did not come until after this date. Your assertion that I just post without performing a due diligence search is therefore incorrect. I went with the data that was available at the time and still ensured that I did not claim it was verified accurate. Show me my error of intent or failure to do a simple search from my previous posts on this report. Again, I even stated I hoped it was not accurate. Expose my intentional lie. You admit they just YESTERDAY acknowledged the data was in error. Show me ANY intent to deceive.
I never said you had intent to deceive. I said:
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You keep linking random ass sources full of explicitly false claims.
I could go into more detail, and specify right wing partisan sources known for hosting false claims. Like rumble, the Canadian site for videos banned from youtube, and what appears to be the personal website of a right wing podcaster/military guy/antivaxxer.
That doesn't mean you're intentionally trying to deceive us, you might just be stupid. Or gullible. Or just not doing your due diligence--again, you should probably find data suggesting that 2/3rds of the military is currently suffering an acute mental health crisis very suspect. Hanlon's Razor.
Either way, I consider you to be somewhat less credible than the neutral slate you started with a week or so ago, in my mind.
Edit: Take from that what you will. There are right wing people I disagree with, but still respect. There are right wing people that I disagree with, and do not respect. I don't think there are any republicans left that I agree with, anymore.
There are also right wing people that do not care whether I respect them or not. On the flipside, I do not care whether most people respect me or not. There are a few people on these forums whose opinions of me I care about, but most opinions of me don't matter to me. If my opinion of you matters to you, then use sources that are not easily shown to be false. There are many legitimate right wing arguments that I am willing to consider. Claiming an unrelated video from 2018 is covid related, or using a database glitch as the foundation of an argument, is not something I am willing to consider legitimate.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Kryptos]
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I never said you had intent to deceive. I said:
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You keep linking random ass sources full of explicitly false claims.
I could go into more detail, and specify right wing partisan sources known for hosting false claims. Like rumble, the Canadian site for videos banned from youtube, and what appears to be the personal website of a right wing podcaster/military guy/antivaxxer.
That doesn't mean you're intentionally trying to deceive us, you might just be stupid. Or gullible. Or just not doing your due diligence--again, you should probably find data suggesting that 2/3rds of the military is currently suffering an acute mental health crisis very suspect. Hanlon's Razor.
Either way, I consider you to be somewhat less credible than the neutral slate you started with a week or so ago, in my mind.
Edit: Take from that what you will. There are right wing people I disagree with, but still respect. There are right wing people that I disagree with, and do not respect. I don't think there are any republicans left that I agree with, anymore.
There are also right wing people that do not care whether I respect them or not. On the flipside, I do not care whether most people respect me or not. There are a few people on these forums whose opinions of me I care about, but most opinions of me don't matter to me. If my opinion of you matters to you, then use sources that are not easily shown to be false. There are many legitimate right wing arguments that I am willing to consider. Claiming an unrelated video from 2018 is covid related, or using a database glitch as the foundation of an argument, is not something I am willing to consider legitimate.
I am not going to offer my critical reply to that here in the forum. I will DM you with it.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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Read the DoD statement. It was a database error and no intent to deceive is indicated. They acknowledge the report came from the official database and NOTHING was intentionally faked as you now claim. What is your evidence that this is an intentional fake? Please read the statement regarding this from the DoD.
It’s fake. You can tell by the data itself and I already posted the reasons why it should be obvious.
You keep posting that video of the Pfizer ceo claiming he’s talking about the covid pill, when the video was made five years ago and he says nothing about covid. Either you are a shameless liar or you are incredibly dumb
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Kryptos]
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So, you decided to copy and paste my DM to you. You just confirmed to all what I expected. This is what one can expect from an immature individual. I will add this: When the DoD clarified that the data in the report was in error, they stated explicitly that the prior five years data was UNDER REPORTED. They did NOT state the 2021 data was incorrect. There goes your data analysis. There are MANY possible explanations for the data with one being that the same military member goes to several appointments and when they are diagnosed, it is very common that they have multiple symptoms. If they come back to the same clinic, it could peg again on the stats. One of the most common mental issues in the military is generalized anxiety and it is screened for after every deployment and during scheduled evaluations or when a military member goes to a military treatment facility for any reason. I am not surprised by this. There still could be a significant rise in each of the categories even AFTER they correct for the under reported data.
You know NOTHING about the DoD. I was an active duty combat leader for over 20 years and NONE of this surprises me. We do not sit behind desks our whole lives. Our jobs and missions are extremely physically demanding every day we are deployed, and when NOT deployed, training in conditions that replicate high intensity war which usually are even MORE physically and mentally demanding, but for shorter periods of time.
The three whistleblowers are military doctors and they STILL stand by the data and have sworn under oath that the data is correct and is NOT under reported and they back this up by data going back since DMED came on line. But of course, thank fucking god we have you and Koods to set those "liars" straight.
The data I provided was from an OFFICIAL DoD data base. It does not get any better than that. I will remind your short attention span challenged ass that the three military doctors have SWORN on the veracity and accuracy of the data. I wonder who is lying? The DoD talking head or these doctors? Apparently your are woefully behind on how this story is now developing. I am stating this because I am not trying to convince you. This is just for the record for the rest of the community to consider when dealing with your immaturity.
"No, it is not. If you bring a turd into my living room, set it on my coffee table, and then tell me "well, I don't really know who made this turd, let's go find out" I don't give a fuck who made the turd, you brought that shit here, so it is on you. The correct response would be "oh, my bad, let me remove this video link that is clearly false" not "well, lemme go ask the video creator what they think". The video creator doesn't give a shit, if they did, they wouldn't have made the video. I don't give a shit, because I know the video is false. You, sir, have just been left "holding the bag", in the parlance of scammers."
I left it intact and also noted here and to the person that uploaded the video, that he must provide citation for his video. I admitted that although the video itself is accurate, the connection to COVID is considered BS. I commented TO his video for others to know instantly it is BS until he can prove it isn't, which he cannot.
Regarding the DMED report, here is the testimony before Congress that identifies the whistleblowers, but you will ignore it as it may impugn your delusions and your delicate and very ruffled sensibilities:
https://rumble.com/vt62y6-covid-19-a-second-opinion.html
What I do not have access to and neither do you, are the data point definitions and rules that trigger a record. I know from EXPERIENCE that what may seem incredible and out of range, may be valid and have a valid explanation such as the FACT I stated above regarding anxiety screening which then triggers follow up for diagnosis and treatment if it is significant. We used to joke about it when I was in that we are all diagnosed with anxiety in those screenings where the ENTIRE combat brigade is screened for deployment, and on return. Again, you think you know something. I will not call you stupid, just uninformed and emotionally triggered as evidenced by your cut and paste of my DM because you got mad as you admitted and that is your hissy fit response.
I just looked at your post history. You are just like Koods: Trolls. You contribute little to none to the community.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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It's curious to me that data is screenshotted from a now defunct website, then uploaded to Terminal X (a wordpress running site), when the reports are widely available on the new site.
https://www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/Combat-Support/Armed-Forces-Health-Surveillance-Division/Reports-and-Publications/~/link.aspx?_id=534E26BD8E5D4ECC8CAA8ABA47679691&_z=z
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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Also, in every single page of the screenshotted data they use Ambulatory Data. Not hospitalizations or reportable events. The discrepancy could be as simple in a change of reporting methods for ambulatory events in 2021. Also, in all but one page for 2021 results, the tab showing "Results" at the top isn't shown it is cutoff. The 2021 pages could be population numbers or something else for all we know. Finally, why wouldn't they just put all those years in a single table? Why is the 2021 page always a different screenshot with only that years results?
Shady screenshot source, stored on a non official server, with several decent questions about how the data was acquired and sorted, especially since the supposed source has since changed websites. It all smells a bit fishy and a little too convenient.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: christopera]
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For fun I joined Terminal X and it appears to be an infowars, antivax, conspiracy forum for military members. I can't imagine where that fake data came from, but it is the perfect place to post it.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: christopera]
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I just looked at your post history. You are just like Koods: Trolls. You contribute little to none to the community.
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christopera said: Also, in every single page of the screenshotted data they use Ambulatory Data. Not hospitalizations or reportable events. The discrepancy could be as simple in a change of reporting methods for ambulatory events in 2021. Also, in all but one page for 2021 results, the tab showing "Results" at the top isn't shown it is cutoff. The 2021 pages could be population numbers or something else for all we know. Finally, why wouldn't they just put all those years in a single table? Why is the 2021 page always a different screenshot with only that years results?
Shady screenshot source, stored on a non official server, with several decent questions about how the data was acquired and sorted, especially since the supposed source has since changed websites. It all smells a bit fishy and a little too convenient.
I have the raw source data that was used. Download the spreadsheet. Regarding the story they tell, the three military doctors that leaked it have sworn to the accuracy of the report and they have shown that the official DoD statement that the five prior years were undercounted is incorrect when they provided the data for many years prior. It could be the DoD is downplaying the report. What has been confirmed by the DoD is that the 2021 numbers are correct. The doctors that leaked it were surprised by the sharp rise and looked into if anything changed regarding the database record definitions and confirmed that nothing had changed regarding the policies that direct when data is entered. Someone is lying. Either the doctors are lying under sworn oath, or whomever drafted the DoD response to the report. If you would like, I can provide the raw data or you can grab it from the same site and verify the unhidden/unprotected formulas to see if there are any intentional misrepresentation or manipulation of the raw data that was used for the slides. I reviewed the data and formulas and found no error in how they are calculated. As I have stated before, I hope the source data is wrong. I really want it to be wrong because the alternative is horrific. At minimum, this is how the ultimate facts are weeded from fiction by folks asking questions and demanding the truth. If this data was intentionally misrepresented by the doctors that leaked it, then they are liable for perjury and prosecution under UCMJ. They know this and they have put their reputations and careers on the line and risk prison for disclosing this data. Someone is lying and we all deserve to know the truth and demand the liars be prosecuted. I think we can agree on this.
Just as incredible one may find the report, it demands action to determine if it is accurate, if it is a database error, or if it was intentionally manipulated. Since it is out there, it can't be just disregarded offhand as we deserve transparency.
I can tell you from experience that this information in the report is FOUO and is NOT to be released without approval and declassified for general public distribution. These doctors know that, yet I speculate they leaked it as they felt the info was critical to public safety. This does not absolve them from their violation of sensitive document control policies. They have some big balls for releasing it and have fallen on their sword to do so. The reason this data is considered sensitive and not for public distribution is because it contains force readiness information that an enemy, or even allies to the US would find valuable.
I do not subscribe or even patronize infowars. This was the only link to the raw data I could find. The congressional testimony of the three doctors lawyer confirmed and echoed the numbers you see in the report and raw data.
The question remains, who is lying? We will find out soon enough as the cat is now out of the bag and someone is going down.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: ModularMind]
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You should be banned.
If you look at his post history, he contributes very little to the community and is focused on politics and conspiracies. I do not understand why he even joined. Same goes for Koods. Both are uncivil and abusive to others in the community.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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What exactly are you even trying to prove? Is that covid pills track you? That the DoD misreported data?
Let's just agree that those two PDF's are completely worthless.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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You should be banned.
If you look at his post history, he contributes very little to the community and is focused on politics and conspiracies. I do not understand why he even joined. Same goes for Koods. Both are uncivil and abusive to others in the community.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: ModularMind]
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Lol, ban me then.
Or go find a safe space. Shouldn't be too hard, you've already identified the forums I frequent.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Kryptos]
#27645531 - 02/04/22 01:38 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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The political skew of this communities moderation is likely the only place your fanciful diatribe, and vilolation of forum rules, could get a pass.
I wouldn’t really want that taken away from you. Imagine you sadder.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: ModularMind]
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Do you have anything other than personal attacks? I've not seen a reasonable argument presented from you since you popped up here recently. Just straight jerking yourself off while others attempt a discussion.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: christopera]
#27645554 - 02/04/22 01:47 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Reality does have a liberal bias.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: christopera]
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Confession through projection. Zero self-awareness.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: ModularMind]
#27645592 - 02/04/22 02:08 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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How insightful, please tell us more.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH] 2
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You should be banned.
If you look at his post history, he contributes very little to the community and is focused on politics and conspiracies. I do not understand why he even joined. Same goes for Koods. Both are uncivil and abusive to others in the community.
OK, let me see if I got this straight. He focuses on politics and conspiracies (in the politics and conspiracy forums) and both are uncivil? You know some of us aren't 18, and we aren't really interested in posting trip reports in the psychedelic experience forum.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Brian Jones]
#27646234 - 02/04/22 09:14 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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The three whistleblowers are military doctors and they STILL stand by the data and have sworn under oath that the data is correct and is NOT under reported and they back this up by data going back since DMED came on line. But of course, thank fucking god we have you and Koods to set those "liars" straight.
You don’t need any special techniques to see this data is not accurate. In almost every category, rates suddenly jump by 100-300% in January 2021, after not much change years before. This rarely happens in the real world, yet the same pattern occurs over and over in this report. The data isn’t right. But if the data were right then there’s something serious going on, but you can rule out the vaccines because these massive changes in disease rates occurred before the vaccines were implemented in the general military population.
The HIV stuff is just laughable. First off there’s no reasonable explanation how a covid vaccine could lead to a massive jump in HIV infections, especially since for these first few months of 2021 youre detecting infections that occurred before the vaccines were approved for use at all. It takes months for the average HIV infection to be diagnosed. But you also have the problem that HIV infection rates continue to drop in the general population despite 70% vaccination rates, so how could the rates in this one group - the military - explode. It’s just silly and obviously fake.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Brian Jones]
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You should be banned.
If you look at his post history, he contributes very little to the community and is focused on politics and conspiracies. I do not understand why he even joined. Same goes for Koods. Both are uncivil and abusive to others in the community.
OK, let me see if I got this straight. He focuses on politics and conspiracies (in the politics and conspiracy forums) and both are uncivil? You know some of us aren't 18, and we aren't really interested in posting trip reports in the psychedelic experience forum.
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You tried. Seems there’s much you are unclear of.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: ModularMind]
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Confession through projection. Zero self-awareness.
QFT
There is only room for only one narrative here. The mods warn folks about being civil, yet take no action. The most abusive are free to troll. I see zero moderation of abuse. It is because of this,I sense a bias that would make folks feel unwelcome here in general. So the only tool left is to add them to the ignore list.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Brian Jones]
#27646814 - 02/05/22 10:17 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Let me clarify: The fact that they post primarily in those discussions is just an observation. He blatantly violated the rules by copying and pasting my private message into the public discussion. I reported it, and moderators have done nothing. I see no moderation of direct violations. Please read his responses to me. He has also been entirely uncivil and he is not the only one. I am all for discussion, and according to the forum rules it must be civil and without personal attacks.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: christopera]
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Let's just agree that those two PDF's are completely worthless.
Reread my comments to answer all of your questions.
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Reason for deletion: Methinks the point has been made
You deleted it because it is a direct violation of forum rules. You fool no one.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: christopera]
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Let's just agree that those two PDF's are completely worthless.
Let's just agree to disagree. Read the actual DoD response. The lawyer of the three doctors has stated in response to the DoD that they stand by their sworn statements and the DMED report. How does that make the report worthless? Have you reviewed the raw data?
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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Let's just agree that those two PDF's are completely worthless.
Reread my comments to answer all of your questions.
Your comments so rambling and disjointed that it's impossible to tell what your thesis is. That's why I asked.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: christopera]
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christopera said: What exactly are you even trying to prove? Is that covid pills track you? That the DoD misreported data?
Let's just agree that those two PDF's are completely worthless.
Reread my comments to answer all of your questions.
Your comments so rambling and disjointed that it's impossible to tell what your thesis is. That's why I asked.
Regarding the DMED Report, I wrote:
"I have the raw source data that was used. Download the spreadsheet. Regarding the story they tell, the three military doctors that leaked it have sworn to the accuracy of the report and they have shown that the official DoD statement that the five prior years were undercounted is incorrect when they provided the data for many years prior."
What part of this do you specifically need additional clarification? I am more than happy to assist.
Regarding the COVID pill, I stated clearly that the microchip tech is being used in other meds, NOT the COVID pill that has yet to be rolled out. The reason I referenced the microchip tech is to point out that it IS a reality and that I and may others will be watching to see if they slip this into the COVID pills they produce. Nowhere did I say it is in the COVID pills that I have not already amended an made quite clear. What part of this are you having difficulties with? There is a clear progression as the information that is being released is integrated into my comments to include these updates to include the DoD statement that came out AFTER I posted and also the response of the three military doctors that are standing firm on the accuracy of the report and they dispute the DoD characterization of the data as being in error and have provided data going back years before that shows the data is not in error. It comes down to who you gonna believe? The official DMED report or the DoD claim that their own DMED database is not just flawed, but fatally flawed.
I invite you to do your own due diligence to show the source data as presented and the associated spreadsheet of raw data used for the report are not the original leaked DMED data report. You are asking me to agree that the reports are worthless. On what grounds? DoD claims they are in error and the doctors that routinely run and review these reports claim they are accurate. On what basis are the reports worthless? Please explain.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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You haven’t amended anything. This article is still up. You’re still lying
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https://rumble.com/vrtcq7-pfizers-ceo-bouria-talks-about-how-the-new-covid-piiis-will-have-a-microchi.html
From the CEO's own lips.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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Let's just agree that those two PDF's are completely worthless.
Let's just agree to disagree. Read the actual DoD response. The lawyer of the three doctors has stated in response to the DoD that they stand by their sworn statements and the DMED report. How does that make the report worthless? Have you reviewed the raw data?
Yes, and it’s obviously fake. I’ve already explained why. I don’t give a fuck about “sworn statements.” That has no legal meaning. They aren’t testifying under oath. People are free to lie without any legal consequences.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: koods] 1
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So you're trying to tell me that when I'm at the bar (which was 5 days straight with the snow holiday) and I swear, that's not a sworn statement.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Brian Jones]
#27649429 - 02/07/22 11:34 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, according to the DoD new "corrected" DMED report, I was wrong. In fact I was so wrong, the new report shows an absolute miracle that reflects COVID never impacted the military, and in fact went down in 2021:

1. DoD wants us to believe that the data has been wrong for years 2. The corrected report wipes out the impact of COVID on our armed forces as evidenced by data before the virus ever hit our shores.
I wonder who is intentionally lying. It appears the DoD continues to outrageously lie and that the doctors that blew the whistle are correct.
These charts reflect ALL categories totaled. Again, I have the original raw data. Do a Google search for it and you will find the original .csv file.
Note on downloading Excel files:
I downloaded it onto my quarantined laptop and inspected the file for any executables and found none. Should you decide to download it, I advise doing the same as there are many triggered hackers that have now uploaded compromised sheets that WILL execute destructive code on your machine that will create backdoor remote access to your machine and if that access fails to connect, it then destroys your data. Be warned to only download from a trusted site and then only download to a quarantined machine to open and inspect. I open them initially in Notedpad++ and review all cell based formulas and VB scripts before opening in Excel that I have defaulted to disable macro execution.
Here is the trusted link I used to download it from the attorney that represents the three doctors:
https://renz-law.com/wp-content/uploads/Renz-Law-DMED-Data.xlsx
Look at the source data in the VRBPAC tab. The rows that are in purple are the DoD's updated data that wipes out the entire impact of COVID and does not align with CDC data that DOES show an impact, albeit to a much lesser degree than the DMED report. What the DoD expects all to believe is that not a single doctor or database administrator noticed this GLARING error for over 6 YEARS! That flies in the face of reason. If it were truly an error, it would have been corrected by the first reporting quarter and the DoD would be eager to share WHY it was in error and WHAT they did to correct it. But they refuse. We are just to accept this entirely implausible explanation for the reasons I have stated.
The implication of the DMED database being in error for over 6 years is ludicrous. It is this database that force medical readiness for combat is reported to show and accurate picture for executive decisions regarding policy and deployment. These reports are CONSTANTLY compared to micro-level troop medical clinic and military hospital reports as they should be in alignment with the DMED database.
At the very minimum, the DoD has NOT been transparent with details on WHY the database was in error and what actions they took to correct it and how they corrected 6 years of supposed error in less than a day. They did such a good job, you cannot see the impact of COVID period! It is truly a medical miracle! The DoD can now declare victory over COVID based on their new report and they can share with us all what their secret treatment that was used to wipe out all COVID impact. The bigger question is why did they hide this miracle treatment from the world? They could have saved MILLIONS of lives had they shared it, according to the new "corrected" data. This cannot stand and we are owed an explanation to definitively hold the liars accountable because this now shows intentional manipulation in this new report and flies in the face of any rational reason.
What a fucking clown show. Again, I want the data to be wrong as the implications are horrific.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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Lol you people clearly have no idea what this data is. First there’s too many injuries and now there aren’t enough.
You people have zero common sense. You actually believe that in the military there are 17 reportable medical incidents per person per year?
Assuming this data isn’t fabricated out of mid air, you are looking at two different sets of data.
Maybe one is active duty and the other is VA? It’s not worth looking into to just to have you come up with another excuse as to why you are posting misinformation. I can’t risk downloading data from anywhere but your curated link, and I can’t trust your curated link because you are a liar.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: koods]
#27649548 - 02/07/22 01:37 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, to be fair, they weren't saying there were too many injuries before, because the point was that all the injuries were from vaccines. Now that there isn't a significant change in injuries, the data is suddenly suspect.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Oldnameforgotten]
#27649613 - 02/07/22 02:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oldnameforgotten said: Disclaimer: I dont give a fuck about the vaccine. I got 2 shots. Dont care at all either way. Its just some stupid shot I get for free.
These popular social media posters are getting banned for posting videos that they are literally mocking anti-vax people. But because their video includes some video of the anti-vax people..... they themselves are getting banned.
What do you guys think about censorship?
I think since its a private business they can do whatever they want. But we can also comment on if we think it is right or wrong.
Probably some dumb algorithm filtering out anything that contains anti-vax content.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: RedRH]
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Really? Nothing? Link the post that still has your personal message quoted.
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Re: Popular Social Media People Being Banned for Mocking Anti-vax [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
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RedRH said: Let me clarify: The fact that they post primarily in those discussions is just an observation. He blatantly violated the rules by copying and pasting my private message into the public discussion. I reported it, and moderators have done nothing. I see no moderation of direct violations. Please read his responses to me. He has also been entirely uncivil and he is not the only one. I am all for discussion, and according to the forum rules it must be civil and without personal attacks.
Really? Nothing? Link the post that still has your personal message quoted.
The snarkiness of your reply is noted. Yes really and you know it. You trying to make me look like a delusional fool? Check your tone as I do not appreciate it one bit.
He deleted it, but you know this already. He stated he did so for my benefit in a very snarky way, and I replied I think it was because he was in violation and was told to, but I do not know this because no administrator ever contacted me with the action taken. No apology. Just a snarky reply after he deleted it. This is your site. You do whatever you want. How do I know you did something when you fail to communicate with those that report this crap?
I communicate with others that are like me in the other shroom related threads. Veterans looking for effective treatment for issues that are personal and unique to us. Finally an effective treatment. Then I made the mistake of exploring the other topics. Why do administrators not communicate with us on reported issues? I am going to log out (because I have him blocked) and review the offenders latest posts to see if moderation has any impact whatsoever. I will update this after with the result.
Edited by RedRH (02/11/22 04:53 PM)
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