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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 3
    #27901082 - 08/12/22 05:26 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Looking good land trout, quite a lot of myc there.


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Adas said:
Nice man! How would you say are Semis different?




The visuals where less defined then what I get with woodlovers. When taking Subs I almost always starting to see a structure
in open space and often things like fire seem to be made up by tiny cubes, kind of granular and lots of wall breathing and such.
CEV with Subs are mostly line patterns that are moving as if they are part of a clockwork.

The Semis were fuzzy and colourful. OEV would only manifest when sitting down and looking at a scene for a while but would blurr
out the field of vision all of a sudden as someone has flipped a switch, when this happened first I got a bit flustered and started moving
around. It was like my vision got all fuzzy and colours would start bleeding out of the objects into the surrounding while some objects
remained crystal clear. Not much breathing of objects. CEV were waving blankets of colourful organic patterns mostly that felt like were
wrapping around me, quite beautiful.

I had a fair bit of auditory effects like guttural and female singing coming from far away and some water drop like sounds or echoed
clicking noises. I usually get this though so its not a Semi thing for me.

The headspace was mostly clear with almost no body load. Surprising was that I didn't get the yawns at all, with Subs and Pans I yawn a lot.
Quite energetic, they didn't tie me to the chair and moving around was easy, maybe too easy lol. I actually like it when the shrooms a weighing
me down a bit, kind of helps me to chill out.

Well as I said I haven't tripped really in the last 3 years and got a bit flustered over the strength of the trip. I am sure I can let go and
enjoy this more once I get back into practice. They are easily as strong as Pans.


The last time I took Semis was a good 30 years ago. In a brain fart moment my brother and I took our whole stash at once which was a lot and
we went out wandering through the crop fields in the middle of the night while the stars where raining down on us and road signs were big lollypops even
after 2 hours in we went past the turnoff to our street on our way back, like 5 times because we didn't see it lol. I took a long break after that one.



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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27901100 - 08/12/22 05:41 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Very cool thread.. don't know how I missed this one.

I was browsing through the thread and you guys are killing it with some of your grows :rockon:

Probably getting too late in the year to start a grow. By the time I am able to get my hands on some spores and get clean agar>spawn it will probably be getting cold outside.. but I definitely plan on joining in the fun next spring :super:


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Rotnpins]
    #27901168 - 08/12/22 06:23 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Baba, you ever get super horny from subs?  Took some last weekend and the damn things got me all worked up during the come up.  Could have just striped away my โ€œselfโ€ and just got overwhelmed with how amazing my wife is and she just turned me on, but damn, never had that happen before.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Land Trout]
    #27901187 - 08/12/22 06:39 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

:lolsy:

nah, never on the night itself but the morning after seems to have me in a heightened state of arousal.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Land Trout]
    #27901543 - 08/13/22 02:33 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Baba Yaga said:
Looking good land trout, quite a lot of myc there.


Quote:

Adas said:
Nice man! How would you say are Semis different?




The visuals where less defined then what I get with woodlovers. When taking Subs I almost always starting to see a structure
in open space and often things like fire seem to be made up by tiny cubes, kind of granular and lots of wall breathing and such.
CEV with Subs are mostly line patterns that are moving as if they are part of a clockwork.

The Semis were fuzzy and colourful. OEV would only manifest when sitting down and looking at a scene for a while but would blurr
out the field of vision all of a sudden as someone has flipped a switch, when this happened first I got a bit flustered and started moving
around. It was like my vision got all fuzzy and colours would start bleeding out of the objects into the surrounding while some objects
remained crystal clear. Not much breathing of objects. CEV were waving blankets of colourful organic patterns mostly that felt like were
wrapping around me, quite beautiful.

I had a fair bit of auditory effects like guttural and female singing coming from far away and some water drop like sounds or echoed
clicking noises. I usually get this though so its not a Semi thing for me.

The headspace was mostly clear with almost no body load. Surprising was that I didn't get the yawns at all, with Subs and Pans I yawn a lot.
Quite energetic, they didn't tie me to the chair and moving around was easy, maybe too easy lol. I actually like it when the shrooms a weighing
me down a bit, kind of helps me to chill out.

Well as I said I haven't tripped really in the last 3 years and got a bit flustered over the strength of the trip. I am sure I can let go and
enjoy this more once I get back into practice. They are easily as strong as Pans.


The last time I took Semis was a good 30 years ago. In a brain fart moment my brother and I took our whole stash at once which was a lot and
we went out wandering through the crop fields in the middle of the night while the stars where raining down on us and road signs were big lollypops even
after 2 hours in we went past the turnoff to our street on our way back, like 5 times because we didn't see it lol. I took a long break after that one.






Thanks for sharing! Sounds beautiful! I've heard female singing when I overdosed on weed edibles once. It felt ancient. Beautiful.

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Baba, you ever get super horny from subs?  Took some last weekend and the damn things got me all worked up during the come up.  Could have just striped away my โ€œselfโ€ and just got overwhelmed with how amazing my wife is and she just turned me on, but damn, never had that happen before.




I almost always get horny from Azzies. On the comeup there is always a short period where sexual energies activate a lot for some reason. After a minute or 2 everything is back to normal (unless you act on it I guess).


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Adas] * 3
    #27901717 - 08/13/22 08:11 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Hahahah, oh we acted in it!  But weโ€™re also cut short cause our kid REALLY needed mommy more than I did.๐Ÿ˜ญ


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    #27923189 - 08/28/22 09:11 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Hi I germinated a plate a couple weeks ago and now have some growth. I wanted to get some feedback on how it is looking. It's been pretty slow growing and thin.




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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27923201 - 08/28/22 09:23 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

If you spawn these during the spring time, is that early enough to get any fruits? Or do you have to start your beds the year prior by the fall?

Will the mycelium bed be able to survive a winter freeze, or are they better grown in warmer climates?

Edit: I also saw some pictures tweek posted about 3 months ago that looked like an indoor grow in some trays with potting soil and grass?

Can these be grown effectively indoors, or did I misinterpret the picture and the trays were actually from an outdoor grow?


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27923205 - 08/28/22 09:25 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: myco.bay]
    #27923292 - 08/28/22 10:51 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Hi I germinated a plate a couple weeks ago and now have some growth. I wanted to get some feedback on how it is looking. It's been pretty slow growing and thin.








This looks about right. Here a photo of a germination plate that I'm keeping as a backup and the other two photos are of first transfers from another germ plate.




Still very thin but the growth should get better after a few more transfers.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 2
    #27923330 - 08/28/22 11:16 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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If you spawn these during the spring time, is that early enough to get any fruits? Or do you have to start your beds the year prior by the fall?

Will the mycelium bed be able to survive a winter freeze, or are they better grown in warmer climates?

Edit: I also saw some pictures tweek posted about 3 months ago that looked like an indoor grow in some trays with potting soil and grass?

Can these be grown effectively indoors, or did I misinterpret the picture and the trays were actually from an outdoor grow?





Early spring is plenty of time. I spawned and planted late summer and it worked out well and didn't have to worry to keep them happy during peak heat. They grow all over Europe including Norway & Finland so yeah, freezes are no problem. Non of my bed or buried cakes were fruiting the following year and I don't know what it takes to establish them long term.

I think I know the photos you are talking about. Wasn't that of trays in a greenhouse? I don't recall seeing any followup posts with fruits though and can't remember when those were posted. Shouldn't be far away for the season in the northern hemisphere to really kick off. A few 2022 Season Thread are already going in the Hunting & ID Forum. So I hope we are going to see some success soon.

Indoors is not easy I think and I don't talk about having a tub in an unheated room in the middle of winter, that can work alright. Under indoors I understand an off season grow in an controlled fruiting environment but having said this, Holofractal over in the Official Woodlover Thread has some good results with stuntzii indoors and they are closely related to semilanceata. It might pay off to try his approach for Libs as well as it seems not that complicated. Worth a shot....I will stop growing pans for a while after this coming growing season to focus more on this species and papuana. Have to switch it up a bit every now and then to keep it interesting in the grow room.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Rotnpins] * 1
    #27923350 - 08/28/22 11:38 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Edit: I also saw some pictures tweek posted about 3 months ago that looked like an indoor grow in some trays with potting soil and grass?

Can these be grown effectively indoors, or did I misinterpret the picture and the trays were actually from an outdoor grow?




Hi Rotnpins,

My trays with grass sit outdoors. Maybe I took the pic in the house but the trays are always outside


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Tweeq]
    #27923360 - 08/28/22 11:49 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Thanks Baba, that's reassuring to know


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: myco.bay] * 1
    #27948950 - 09/13/22 11:09 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I had a second germination plate sitting around for 3 weeks as backup and took some transfers from it. The mycelium grew out stronger than what I got from the other germination plate I used earlier, both were from the same print. Out of five transfers 4 grew out like in the first photo and the one in the second image is kind of more linear growing and more vigorous. Not sure if I should trust that one.



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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 2
    #27949092 - 09/14/22 01:42 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I'm so getting in on this. Gonna wait for the season to kick in and clone the biggest lib I can find. I live by a canal and have always dreamed of spreading them up and down the towpath. Great work, everybody!


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: HappinessStan]
    #27952841 - 09/16/22 01:04 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I'm currently working out what to use as a substrate for my semi clone. I'm a newbie cultivator so would like some input...

- Semis like to grow in areas where there is animal manure (particularly sheep). Does it make sense to add composted cow manure to semi substrate? Will there be any nutrients that mushrooms can use, given that the cow-manure is composted?

- Planning to use a lot of sphagnum-rich soil in my substrate... I know its not very nutritional, but how is it contam wise?

- spawn/sub ratio? Given a substrate of manure-rich, sphagnum-rich soil?

- Sterilize? Pasteurize?


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: major_semi] * 2
    #27952933 - 09/16/22 02:43 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Yes you can add manure, the cakes I buried were made of coir, H-manure, vermiculite and grain flour. I can't remember the exact ratios but it was mostly coir (at least half),
then manure and vermiculite to adjust texture and field capacity. Avoid making it soggy at all so the mycelium has an easy time colonizing it, making it a bit on the drier side
is better than too wet.

Why you say sphagnum do you mean the peat? I don't think it is very useful as the main bulk, it won't beat coir in terms of contam resistance. I'd go with coir as main
ingredient and add to that but hey you can try out what you suggested and report back.

I used a ratio of 1:3 when spawning to straight compost from the garden center. Some say that spawning to straight coir does work as well.

If you spawn grain to substrate then pasteurize.


Since this is not an exact science and such there is lots of room for experimentation so knock yourself out and do some testing, you might find something good.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27953031 - 09/16/22 03:36 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Why you say sphagnum do you mean the peat? I don't think it is very useful as the main bulk, it won't beat coir in terms of contam resistance.





Hi, yes I think its the same thing...  Forgot to mention this will be an indoor attempt...

The reasoning behind using soil rich in peat and manure in the substrate is that this would be close to the semis natural environment. So im hoping that will make them more willing to fruit... Might add some other stuff to the substrate as well (coir perhaps).


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: major_semi]
    #27953078 - 09/16/22 04:01 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

If you try indoors then I would keep the substrate as simple as possible. Coir or coir/manure. I'd say environment is more important than the sub recipe.

How are you planning on fruiting them? I assume that you are northern hemisphere which means that winter is coming and you could keep your tub(s) in an unheated room if that is a possibility. Don't you have a yard, porch or garage? Could do planters on your outside window sills.


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Re: The Official Semilanceata Thread [Re: Baba Yaga] * 2
    #27953144 - 09/16/22 04:37 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I would look into holofractals work with woodlovers inside too, perhaps there is a path forward where drying it out is key.


He shares some of it in the official woodlover thread.

Inside we don't really know how to induce fruiting

Outside Baba has proved is more "easy" or reliable


Edit: as Baba says don't complicate the substrate,

We don't have much proof towards psilocybes being so overly dependant on these special mixes, it adds contam vectors usually and so many species have proven they can adapt to lack of more complex nutrition, enough to fruit at least.


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