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Outsiders like Russia extensively target Black Communities with Disinformation Warfare to disrupt society for and through them
    #27598779 - 12/29/21 03:22 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

If any ole source claimed this, I'd consider it conspiracy, but its none less than the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, organisation of geniuses of the atomic age including Einstein, keepers of the Doomsday Clock and watchdogs against disruptive technologies.

Black communities are fed deliberate falsehoods to weaponize their response into being a detriment to themselves anjd society, such as urging them not to get vaccinated or to inflame tense racial situations.

Frankly you see this ALL THE TIME on places like facebook.

Be advised about this.

A lot of "BLM stupidity" in reality is being systematically injected into black communities to destabilize race relations and wreak societal havoc.

Who wants to discuss this from a political angle?


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Re: Outsiders like Russia extensively target Black Communities with Disinformation Warfare to disrupt society for and through... [Re: Asante]
    #27599659 - 12/30/21 09:56 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

"ADVISE TAKEN"
I'll be on the lookout big guy


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Re: Outsiders like Russia extensively target Black Communities with Disinformation Warfare to disrupt society for and through... [Re: doubleD] * 2
    #27599732 - 12/30/21 10:57 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Lol sounds like they are following Americas foot steps🤣😅.

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Re: Outsiders like Russia extensively target Black Communities with Disinformation Warfare to disrupt society for and through... [Re: Asante]
    #27600915 - 12/31/21 08:16 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I've run a number of false flag fake FB accounts to discourage the indigenous from getting vaccinated in the endeavour many don't so they die when COVID makes the rounds. This will upset many liberals who love POC, well tough shit. Kiss my white gawd given ass! Yep, proud as hell to be racist! :laugh:

FB has tried to block. Just think how organised white men like me are conspiring together online with fake shit to fill shipping containers in POC! :cool:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-18/facebook-ban-feared-dangerous-for-indigenous-vaccine-rollout/13166658





https://ntindependent.com.au/nt-government-orders-covid-19-portable-mortuaries-to-be-rolled-out/

The Gunner Government has ordered 10 refrigerated shipping containers it intends to use as COVID-19 morgues to be rolled out in Darwin, Alice Springs and Nhulunbuy, the NT Independent can reveal.

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Re: Outsiders like Russia extensively target Black Communities with Disinformation Warfare to disrupt society for and through... [Re: Oz_Salvia]
    #27601670 - 12/31/21 07:50 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I think blaming racial tensions in America on Russia is an excuse that expired about 75 years ago, and didn’t hold much weight before that.


And let’s not try to say the group of scientists who urged the West to believe that a nuclear war was inevitable is some objective fact disseminator.


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Re: Outsiders like Russia extensively target Black Communities with Disinformation Warfare to disrupt society for and through... [Re: Asante]
    #27601702 - 12/31/21 08:17 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

It'd be nice if we could find some way to make peace with russia, but they seem dead set against that.

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Re: Outsiders like Russia extensively target Black Communities with Disinformation Warfare to disrupt society for and through... [Re: Oz_Salvia] * 1
    #27601970 - 01/01/22 03:52 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)


:didnazithatcoming:


Happy New Year, Shroomery!


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Re: Outsiders like Russia extensively target Black Communities with Disinformation Warfare to disrupt society for and through... [Re: nooneman]
    #27602121 - 01/01/22 07:58 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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It'd be nice if we could find some way to make peace with russia, but they seem dead set against that.




We broke treaties to put nuclear missiles on their border, then overthrew their government and intervened in the resulting electoral processes. To this day we sanction and blockade Russia, resulting in misery for millions of Russians.

But yeah, if only they’d understand we just want peace.


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Re: Outsiders like Russia extensively target Black Communities with Disinformation Warfare to disrupt society for and through... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27602228 - 01/01/22 09:49 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

It's almost like the Russian govt can't event be blamed for the poverty and misery that has always existed in their own country .  Putin is obviously an egalitarian.

  Are you talking about the INF treaty ?


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Re: Outsiders like Russia extensively target Black Communities with Disinformation Warfare to disrupt society for and through... [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27602561 - 01/01/22 02:56 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Im talking about us using NATO to move missiles into Turkey, and then threatening to blow up the planet when the Soviets respond in kind by sending missiles to Cuba.

And what does Russia’s faults have to do with our constant Sabre rattling and near century long economic and political sabotage? Are you gonna argue those things are fine because not every Russian has an iPad or something


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Re: Outsiders like Russia extensively target Black Communities with Disinformation Warfare to disrupt society for and through... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27602564 - 01/01/22 02:57 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

The point is you’re a fucking rube if you think we’re spending trillions of dollars on a military because we want to reduce poverty and misery.


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Re: too long [Re: Asante]
    #27602646 - 01/01/22 04:16 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Black communities are fed deliberate falsehoods to weaponize their response into being a detriment to themselves anjd society, such as urging them not to get vaccinated or to inflame tense racial situations.




This is true for any marginalized community, it just so happens that good old American racism makes black communities most susceptible. The most effective fighters are always the ones with the least to lose.

This also plays into ...certain... elements in the US. Have you seen the movie Snowpiercer? Do you remember that snece, when they finally storm the train, right after they realize the guards have no bullets? Who do they run into after they break the lines of the guards? The stand-in for the middle class white guy.

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Warfare to disrupt society forthem [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27602670 - 01/01/22 04:36 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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The point is you’re a fucking rube if you think we’re spending trillions of dollars on a military because we want to reduce poverty and misery.



 
    What ?  I think Russia's military spending is responsible for their poverty.
  I was just going to argue the poverty situation in Russia would be the same regardless of what we do .  They have issues bigger than sanctions , you can't blame it all on us .
  Their economy has adapted to the sanctions that isn't really the reason .

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Much of that economic pain can be traced back to decisions taken inside the Kremlin. The coronavirus pandemic has exposed a failure to tackle longstanding structural problems, such as woefully underfunded hospitals and schools, low pensions and high levels of corruption that typically stops a large proportion of fiscal resources reaching their intended target.

Then, as the pandemic took hold, the government chose to abandon a $360bn investment plan designed to pump funds into poorer regions, and instead doubled down on protecting its $183bn national wealth fund — built up by years of austerity measures such as raising the pension age and increasing retail taxes — as a buffer against potential global shocks.

People are really at the end of the rope . . . [They] are reaching breaking point,” said Elina Ribakova, deputy chief economist at the Institute of International Finance. “This is the cost of the ‘fortress Russia’ strategy.”

“[The authorities] were so concerned about their external threats that they completely forgot about the domestic population . . . they have been ignored for too long and now they are getting frustrated.”





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Re: Warfare to disrupt society forthem [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27602689 - 01/01/22 04:56 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I think the point is that the sanctions are only helping fuel the right wing nationalist authoritarian movements that are actively participating in the giant state sponsored grift that is the Russian economy.

You cannot blame the US exclusively, but we aren't exactly the good guys in this situation either.

EDIT: I will also add, the Kremlin has lately really stepped up the, uh, Patriotism rhetoric. Russian society has, for the last 80ish years, been pretty saturated with the "glorious" nature of their victory over Nazi Germany, but it's really been stepped up a notch in the last few years. Lots of new monuments going up.

I don't think that's a good sign.

Actually, along with the topic I just started (which was originally a response here that kind of...grew...)I think there is a very real Russia/China vs. The World match up in the next few years, maybe decade. And I don't think there is any amount of money or patriotic rhetoric that can prepare the US/EU for an adequate response at this point, after Afghanistan.

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Re: Warfare to disrupt society forthem [Re: Kryptos]
    #27602727 - 01/01/22 05:42 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Old people are the Kremlins main voting block . Not surprised that's happening .  They don't have much else to be happy about .

I dont think there's much risk . Russia isnt even capable of winning  an arms race against us .
  Their economic reality wouldn't allow it .


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Re: Outsiders like Russia extensively target Black Communities with Disinformation Warfare to disrupt society for and through... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27602743 - 01/01/22 06:03 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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It'd be nice if we could find some way to make peace with russia, but they seem dead set against that.




We broke treaties to put nuclear missiles on their border, then overthrew their government and intervened in the resulting electoral processes. To this day we sanction and blockade Russia, resulting in misery for millions of Russians.

But yeah, if only they’d understand we just want peace.




I was following along with your last two posts till "We... overthrew their government". I'm not buying that at all. I'm sure we were filled with sneaky plans and contingencies. Whatever the level of support from the world community Gorbechev received, he was the engineer of the breakup of the Soviet Union, and he had strong domestic support from what I'm thinking was the middle strata of society, the educated. The old elites were obviously not with him. I think the workers started out with him. But I think he lost them. Like Putin, they long for the days of empire.


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    #27602782 - 01/01/22 06:35 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Russia isnt even capable of winning  an arms race against us .
  Their economic reality wouldn't allow it .




They dont have to, they have M.A.D


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    #27602794 - 01/01/22 06:41 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Old people are the Kremlins main voting block . Not surprised that's happening .  They don't have much else to be happy about .

I dont think there's much risk . Russia isnt even capable of winning  an arms race against us .
  Their economic reality wouldn't allow it .




Italy wasn't much of a threat either, back in the day. Hence why I specified Russia/China vs. The World.

I think there are very interesting parallels there, actually. Italy provided the fascist blueprint for Germany, just like Russia provided the state-sanctioned authoritarian gangster capitalism that I would argue China has perfected. Germany and China were ideologically followers, but economic leaders.

China is absolutely gearing up for some sort of confrontation, as is Russia. Both countries are fomenting dissident movements within their neighbors, analogous to Austria and that one compromise/appeasement that I forget the name of off the top of my head.

I am not making predictions here so much as I am doomsaying, I think there are a lot of things that need to fall into place for this to play out, but ai don't think that the sharply authoritarian turn of the non-european powers of the world bodes particularly well for the future. At some point, they will turn on an other.

Based on the relatively tame actions of Russia/China during the Trump years vs. the Biden years, and the nature of the modern GOP, I think it is within the realm of possibility that it becomes China/Russia/GOP-USA vs. The World. I expect some sort of explicitly eco-fascist message to take root in the GOP within the next decade as climate denialism stops being viable.

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Re: Warfare to disrupt society forthem [Re: Asante]
    #27603147 - 01/02/22 12:29 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Russia isnt even capable of winning  an arms race against us .
  Their economic reality wouldn't allow it .




They dont have to, they have M.A.D




And besides their ICBM arsenal, they have over 15,000 tanks. China is second with over 9,000. The U.S. has 6,000.


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Re: Outsiders like Russia extensively target Black Communities with Disinformation Warfare to disrupt society for and through... [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #27603149 - 01/02/22 12:35 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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It'd be nice if we could find some way to make peace with russia, but they seem dead set against that.




We broke treaties to put nuclear missiles on their border, then overthrew their government and intervened in the resulting electoral processes. To this day we sanction and blockade Russia, resulting in misery for millions of Russians.

But yeah, if only they’d understand we just want peace.



All I said was that it'd be nice if we could make peace with russia. It would be nice. And then I said they seem dead set against it. They are dead set against it. That's all I meant.

It was pretty simple: it'd be nice if we could make peace with russia, but they're dead set against it, all of which is true.

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