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OfflinePWSLYR
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Oregon Psilocybin Services
    #27580545 - 12/13/21 09:13 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I couldn't find a thread about the creation of Oregon's laws around Psilocybin so I figured what better way to say hello to the community than to start a thread about the legalization process in Oregon.  Today was the first day of a series of three discussions over three days open for public listening. I did not get a chance to listen today and was hoping to find a recording, which I haven't yet.

Oregon Psilocybin Services

This is the link to the home page for the listening sessions the next two days.

Here's a link to Oregon measure 109

Edited by PWSLYR (12/13/21 09:30 PM)

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Offlinedanman78
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Re: Oregon Psilocybin Services [Re: PWSLYR]
    #27595139 - 12/26/21 01:50 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

great info, thank you!

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OfflineWalkTall
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Re: Oregon Psilocybin Services [Re: PWSLYR]
    #27624018 - 01/18/22 09:49 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I would have thought there would be tons of discussion on shroomery about Oregon measure 109, but there seems to be hardly any. Is is a subject that people are actively avoiding?

Is anyone on here planning to get licensed to provide services or produce psilocybin products with Oregon Psilocybin Services? Totally understandable if nobody wants to discuss their plans, but also curious if anyone IS interested in discussing it.


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Re: Oregon Psilocybin Services [Re: WalkTall]
    #27624033 - 01/18/22 10:09 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

The price of mushrooms are about to skyrocket then massively plummet.

It is however a little odd that you guys all made accounts within like a month of each other, and are all really low post count.


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Re: Oregon Psilocybin Services [Re: christopera]
    #27624048 - 01/18/22 10:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, I joined here to find out more about mushrooms because of the bill that was passed in Oregon. I would imagine many others have too. Clearly there are many people here who aren't shy about talking about growing mushrooms. Just curious why nobody is discussing it in this context.

Seriously just trying to figure out whether this is ok to talk about on shroomery. I'm getting the distinct vibe that it is not. Yes I am a naive noobie, no doubt about it. I'll check back over the next couple days to see if anyone else weighs in.


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Re: Oregon Psilocybin Services [Re: WalkTall]
    #27624296 - 01/19/22 08:08 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

You can talk about it, no problem. If there is a vibe, it might be that we think what goes on in parts of Oregon is sort of disconnected from the rest of the country, for better or worse.


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Re: Oregon Psilocybin Services [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27624783 - 01/19/22 04:01 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks Brian. Would you (or anyone) be willing to elaborate on that a little more? Oregon is a big, weird, beautiful, confusing place where a lot of dumb shit gets mixed in with all the good stuff that happens. What is disconnected? Which parts are for better, and which are for worse?

My 2 cents is that measure 109 has the potential to dramatically increase access to psychedelic medicine by giving it some legal legitimacy. I think that would be good; the world needs truckloads more compassion and empathy these days. Plus another tool in the toolbox to fight mental illness is always welcome.

Oregon is certainly poking the bear that is federal drug law with measure 109 (but not as much as with measure 110). That should make for a really interesting debate re: state's rights at some point in the future. In my eyes it seems likely that mushrooms will follow the precedent set by cannabis legalization in several states. I see this as a positive, but I imagine it will be really disruptive for a lot of people in this community. Am I getting closer to the mark on why this is such a thorny issue?


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Re: Oregon Psilocybin Services [Re: WalkTall]
    #27624807 - 01/19/22 04:18 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Oregon I feel particularly emphasizes the "dumb shit" half of that equation.

But, as someone who does not live in Oregon, it doesn't really affect me. Especially considering where I live, it likely will not affect me anytime soon.

What does really annoy me, though, is people referring to weed and mushrooms as "medicine". Sure, it might be "medicine" for some, but the reason you want it legal is the same reason I want it legal: so I can get high as fuck and not have to interact with sketchy Joe who "works" behind Taco Bell.

I think a little bit of honesty there would really help. I don't want to debate the "medical benefits" of psilocybin therapy, because I have no interest in psilocybin therapy. I wanna trip balls once in a while. Ain't nothing medical about that. This way, instead of getting drawn into esoteric debates, anti-drug crusaders need to literally argue against chemical joy.

This works particularly well in bars.

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Re: Oregon Psilocybin Services [Re: Kryptos]
    #27635067 - 01/27/22 11:35 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the links. Whatever your view it will be interesting to see how things develop.


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Re: Oregon Psilocybin Services [Re: Kryptos]
    #27635106 - 01/27/22 12:15 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Kryptos said:
What does really annoy me, though, is people referring to weed and mushrooms as "medicine". Sure, it might be "medicine" for some, but the reason you want it legal is the same reason I want it legal: so I can get high as fuck and not have to interact with sketchy Joe who "works" behind Taco Bell.





I like hitting the pleasure zone amount with shrooms, around the 3 dry gram mark. That's where the benefits are I think especially if you just can't seem to pull yourself out of a malaise.

Far better and certainly not as addictive as antidepressants, which was something I didn't want to use and still haven't.

The intense euphoria does the trick imo.

Higher doses are hard to explain.

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Re: Oregon Psilocybin Services [Re: Stable Genius]
    #27643872 - 02/03/22 12:04 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

The advisory board and subcommittees tasked with building the Oregon system are putting recordings of all of their meetings online. I am working my way through them to understand how the system is shaping up.

The Products subcommittee hosted Paul Stamets last summer for a meeting to get his take. Most of the time he is talking about Paul Stamets, but there are a couple interesting little nuggets. Specifically, at about minute 33 he talks about when to harvest Cubes. The gist is is that after the cap opens there isn't any more psilocybin even if the fruiting body is bigger. So if you are going for maximum potency you want to harvest earlier rather than later.

Check it out if you're interested:


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Re: Oregon Psilocybin Services [Re: WalkTall]
    #27644563 - 02/03/22 08:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

WalkTall said:
Thanks Brian. Would you (or anyone) be willing to elaborate on that a little more? Oregon is a big, weird, beautiful, confusing place where a lot of dumb shit gets mixed in with all the good stuff that happens. What is disconnected? Which parts are for better, and which are for worse?

My 2 cents is that measure 109 has the potential to dramatically increase access to psychedelic medicine by giving it some legal legitimacy. I think that would be good; the world needs truckloads more compassion and empathy these days. Plus another tool in the toolbox to fight mental illness is always welcome.

Oregon is certainly poking the bear that is federal drug law with measure 109 (but not as much as with measure 110). That should make for a really interesting debate re: state's rights at some point in the future. In my eyes it seems likely that mushrooms will follow the precedent set by cannabis legalization in several states. I see this as a positive, but I imagine it will be really disruptive for a lot of people in this community. Am I getting closer to the mark on why this is such a thorny issue?




I approve of Oregon's psilocybin initiative. What I meant was we just hear news about what's going on in Portland. I'm not making value judgments about that. I think there are positive and negative aspects of the recent events there. It just seems different than most U.S. cities.


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