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    #2758049 - 06/02/04 09:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Not all of it is  that bad. The stuff that looks like a doormat is what you want to avoid. The stuff that looks like white pudding will pin. This is for those of us who are to lazy to patch.

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I'm not saying it's a good thing, but a lot of people overly panic over it.  :grin:



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Re: Overlay [Re: Magash]
    #2759121 - 06/03/04 01:17 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

What substrate do you use for your mix?


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Re: Overlay [Re: diabolicshroom]
    #2759135 - 06/03/04 01:21 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Substrate is rye, casing is 75% coir 25% verm


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Re: Overlay [Re: Magash]
    #2759163 - 06/03/04 01:28 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Is strait cased grains typically all you work with, Magash?
Do you find that to be the most efficient?


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Re: Overlay [Re: mockeylock]
    #2759192 - 06/03/04 01:37 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Naw, bulk teks are. I have no need for that many shrooms so it's grains nowadays


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Re: Overlay [Re: Magash]
    #2759422 - 06/03/04 03:17 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

>but a lot of people overly panic over it.

A agree, and would like to add this: Overlay with P.cubensis is not such a big deal, because P. cubensis grows perfectly well also from uncased substrates(pf cakes, straw and others). Thus it doesn't necessarily need a casing layer, although it benefits greatly from one.

If overlay happens with a mushroom which requires a casing layer( Agaricus species for instance) the effect on the yield is much more dramatic.


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Re: Overlay [Re: Anno]
    #2766306 - 06/05/04 03:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I've never even had overlay so I've stopped worrying about it all together...ime more mycelium on top the better the pinset


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Re: Overlay [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #2770230 - 06/06/04 11:22 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Pretty much what I've seen.


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Re: Overlay [Re: Magash]
    #2770978 - 06/07/04 09:46 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Does not patching for alot of people work like the casings Magash has got goin?


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Re: Overlay [Re: Jopo]
    #2771370 - 06/07/04 01:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

patching is def the way to go....you'll be glad when you see the pinsets you get :smile:


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Re: Overlay [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #2771382 - 06/07/04 01:06 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Oh i know but i still don't mind the look that magashes casings have turned out either, it just makes things faster!


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Re: Overlay [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #2771679 - 06/07/04 02:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i don't really understand the mechanics of why an even pinset should affect yield so much? can anyone explain why it would?


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Re: Overlay [Re: Tao]
    #2771870 - 06/07/04 03:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

mismanagement of energy. those lazy elves.


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Re: Overlay [Re: LikwidDrawp]
    #4576884 - 08/25/05 12:03 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

bump


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Re: Overlay [Re: Magash]
    #4576912 - 08/25/05 12:09 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Pm me i need some of your energy :smile:


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Re: Overlay [Re: Tao]
    #4578184 - 08/25/05 11:02 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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i don't really understand the mechanics of why an even pinset should affect yield so much? can anyone explain why it would?



If your myc breaks thru early in spots those are usually the first to produce pins, they get a head start producing a few early volunteers, this will be your first flush, the rest of the pins will not flush until these early volunteers have been harvested. Now If you patch these areas then all the myc will reach the surface more or less at the same time and pin at the same time resulting in a higher number of pins competing for the first flush (higher yield). Heres the thing thin casings and aggresive myc will not benefit from patching that much IME. Also overall the casings nutes will produce a certain amount of shrooms overall so totally the weight produced from a casing technically should be equal in the end with all flushes combined but this is not the fact, the fact is casings get contams they also vary in environment conditions so our job IMHO is to get the best pin counts out ASAP. Not all casings will produce the same but the more experienced we get at optimizing our conditions the more consistant our flushes will become. GL and hope this helps


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