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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: kreg]
    #27579833 - 12/13/21 10:14 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Fucking help wanted signs everywhere where I live Its something I've never seen before . Looks to me like we need them .


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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27579843 - 12/13/21 10:20 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, too bad they're all for jobs that don't pay enough to live.

The other day I got food and it came with a "we're hiring! up to 12$ an hour!" flyer.

My apartment requires proof of income of at least $18/hr to live there. Up to 12$ an hour and I'm homeless.

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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27579864 - 12/13/21 10:35 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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So you want America to police the world then ?
  Me too .  What we need is a good old fashioned military build up , and a draft .  Fuck spending money on infrastructure.  We need more toys for killing the Russians and the Chinese .
  Just nuking them isn't good enough .
  We need to build shit and draft people so we can say , "" seee , we don't even need them nukes , we'll fuck you up without em ,  we already won on paper , twice . "
  That's how we rule the world , spend all your money , your kids money , your grandkids money , and you can hate me and everyone else who isn't like you while it's happening !
  Cool huh ?


lol we are allreaddy talking about nuking Russia. Biden is about raise inflation with his build back better plan so your kids,kids will grow up dealing with the debt.

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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Kryptos]
    #27579865 - 12/13/21 10:38 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, too bad they're all for jobs that don't pay enough to live.

The other day I got food and it came with a "we're hiring! up to 12$ an hour!" flyer.

My apartment requires proof of income of at least $18/hr to live there. Up to 12$ an hour and I'm homeless.




    That's why my brother has 4 roommates . He lives in San Fransisco though . I know chemical engineers with roommates living there. 

I remember when conservatives used to tell me if employers can't get workers to apply they would just pay more .
  I think customer service will just cease to be a thing .
  Eventually everything you bought that day will just be thrown on the ground at your front door . At least half the shit I used to buy at the supermarket already is .


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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Mach z 800]
    #27579877 - 12/13/21 10:48 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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lol we are allreaddy talking about nuking Russia. Biden is about raise inflation with his build back better plan so your kids,kids will grow up dealing with the debt.





  How are you dealing with the debt your parents are responsible for ?  Seriously .
  Explain how you deal with it .
 
  Do that and I'll explain to you how I deal with the fact that we have been talking about nuking Russia since the 50 s .
  It just keeps getting scarier .


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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #27579964 - 12/13/21 12:12 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah, too bad they're all for jobs that don't pay enough to live.

The other day I got food and it came with a "we're hiring! up to 12$ an hour!" flyer.

My apartment requires proof of income of at least $18/hr to live there. Up to 12$ an hour and I'm homeless.




    That's why my brother has 4 roommates . He lives in San Fransisco though . I know chemical engineers with roommates living there. 

I remember when conservatives used to tell me if employers can't get workers to apply they would just pay more .
  I think customer service will just cease to be a thing .
  Eventually everything you bought that day will just be thrown on the ground at your front door . At least half the shit I used to buy at the supermarket already is .




Thankfully, I don't live in San Francisco. I don't have any money problems, but I laugh every time I hear someone complain about the lack of workers. I know plenty of people for whom it would be a net loss to take a 12$/hr job.

Why bother remembering what conservatives say? It's always bullshit. I was getting internet, and they still charged me an installation fee, even though they never actually sent anyone to install it. Covid, and all that.

The free market only works in one direction. Supply and demand is for raising prices, not for wages.

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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Kryptos]
    #27580020 - 12/13/21 01:04 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Why bother remembering what conservatives say? It's always bullshit



 
True
  That's not just jsomething  they used to say  before Trump ruined them though .
    A major portion of their philosophy is based on the demand for workers driving up wages .
  It's why they wanted the wall , it's why they wanted  tariffs.


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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27580104 - 12/13/21 02:26 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I know, it's also their main argument against the minimum wage.

Of course, everybody knows that the real reason they want to get rid of minimum wage is so that they can pay people even less.

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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27580639 - 12/13/21 10:40 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Fucking help wanted signs everywhere where I live Its something I've never seen before . Looks to me like we need them .




I guarantee you we have enough people here, it's just lazy fucks don't want to work because the free cheese government is handing out.  I've heard more than one people say stupid shit like "if I work more than 20hrs, I loose my benefit".

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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: MycoWeek] * 1
    #27580905 - 12/14/21 08:49 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

That's not a lazy fuck, that's a broken system.

Want people to work? Pay them more. Supply and demand.

Edit: on topic, I was just thinking about those tornadoes that killed a bunch of people that were at work. I wonder how many of those people knew it was dangerous to stay, but also knew that if they didn't stay they'd lose their jobs?

Live to work, and die to keep your job. Is that worth it?

Edited by Kryptos (12/14/21 08:55 AM)

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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Kryptos]
    #27580915 - 12/14/21 09:04 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Freest nation in the world, but if you don't have a traditional job you are considered a lazy fuck.

lol


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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Kryptos]
    #27580920 - 12/14/21 09:08 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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That's not a lazy fuck, that's a broken system.

Want people to work? Pay them more. Supply and demand.

Edit: on topic, I was just thinking about those tornadoes that killed a bunch of people that were at work. I wonder how many of those people knew it was dangerous to stay, but also knew that if they didn't stay they'd lose their jobs?

Live to work, and die to keep your job. Is that worth it?




https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kentucky-tornado-factory-workers-threatened-firing-left-tornado-employ-rcna8581

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As a catastrophic tornado approached this city Friday, employees of a candle factory — which would later be destroyed — heard the warning sirens and wanted to leave the building. But at least five workers said supervisors warned employees that they would be fired if they left their shifts early.




Holy shit, the owners better be on a plane out of the country.


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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Kryptos]
    #27580985 - 12/14/21 10:15 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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I know, it's also their main argument against the minimum wage.

Of course, everybody knows that the real reason they want to get rid of minimum wage is so that they can pay people even less.



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Kryptos said:
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Yeah, too bad they're all for jobs that don't pay enough to live.

The other day I got food and it came with a "we're hiring! up to 12$ an hour!" flyer.

My apartment requires proof of income of at least $18/hr to live there. Up to 12$ an hour and I'm homeless.




    That's why my brother has 4 roommates . He lives in San Fransisco though . I know chemical engineers with roommates living there. 

I remember when conservatives used to tell me if employers can't get workers to apply they would just pay more .
  I think customer service will just cease to be a thing .
  Eventually everything you bought that day will just be thrown on the ground at your front door . At least half the shit I used to buy at the supermarket already is .




Thankfully, I don't live in San Francisco. I don't have any money problems, but I laugh every time I hear someone complain about the lack of workers. I know plenty of people for whom it would be a net loss to take a 12$/hr job.

Why bother remembering what conservatives say? It's always bullshit. I was getting internet, and they still charged me an installation fee, even though they never actually sent anyone to install it. Covid, and all that.

The free market only works in one direction. Supply and demand is for raising prices, not for wages.




Supply and demand is affecting wages right now. Amazon is paying $20 in Northern urban areas, and they still can't hire enough people. It's gone up $3.50 in 18 months. I give it one more year, then they go back to business as usual.


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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27581650 - 12/14/21 09:03 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Supply and demand is affecting wages right now. Amazon is paying $20 in Northern urban areas, and they still can't hire enough people. It's gone up $3.50 in 18 months. I give it one more year, then they go back to business as usual.




The only way you go back to business as usual is through inflation. If a company starts handing out pay cuts, their workforce will revolt.

That's why companies are giving workers any "benefit" they want except for insurance, WFH, and higher wages. It's easier to get rid of the office ping pong table. It's also why companies are willing to do damn near anything short of raising wages, nobody wants to be left holding the bag.

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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Kryptos]
    #27584322 - 12/16/21 11:31 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I think America will do just fine for the monied. After all, all that matters is what makes America great gets greater - and has. Look at the stock market growth which has done very nicely where as the unimportant has been allowed to wither to ensure business growth.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/3.3-million-americans-fell-into-poverty-during-the-pandemic

In 2019, the U.S. recorded its lowest poverty rate on record at 10.5%. One year later, in the wake of the pandemic, that number rose to 11.4%. All told, an additional 3.3 million Americans were pushed into poverty as a result of widespread unemployment and income loss. Since the pandemic, poverty rates have increased in 39 states.


This trend of poverty is increasing across the world so as resources get thinner policies will be required to contain it rather than mitigate it.

https://www.news.com.au/world/pandemic-widens-gap-between-rich-and-poor/video/34e452755e02f11692150e4a7b422228

The pandemic has widened the gap between the rich and the poor, according to a new report.

The World Inequality Report has found that the wealth of the richest people soared to the highest level while inequality increased in most countries.



The challenge for the US as this poverty increases across the world is to keep the third world out. Not easy with a liberal government and a massive land border. Australia won't allow such invaders as we have a firm border security policy despite the cries of the Left. It avoids many problems. It's one of the reasons why I vote conservative.

Central Americans surveyed this year said scarce economic opportunities were the main reason that they wanted to leave their homelands and head to another country, including the U.S., according to a report by the United Nations and other agencies released Tuesday.




Why the US will allow in thousands of third world people when they already have plenty of homeless, beggars belief (pardon the pun on beggars :wink: ).

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/11/25/thousands-of-homeless-people-could-soon-be-forced-out-of-california-hotels-1336418

In Los Angeles — home to more than 65,000 homeless Californians — the homeless services agency reports that at least 20 percent of those who left Roomkey through September returned to places “not meant for habitation.” In Marin County, that number is 27 percent.




It won't be the wealthy this affects, unless they're the Hollywood celebs who traditionally cheered for liberalism and now have had to flee from the Lost Angels. :wink:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8631063/Hollywood-Apocalypse-rich-famous-fleeing-droves.html

Hollywood's Apocalypse NOW: Rich and famous are fleeing in droves as liberal politics and coronavirus turn City of Dreams into cesspit plagued by junkies and violent criminals


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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: kreg]
    #27584339 - 12/17/21 12:03 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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A lot of countries hate the US mostly out of envy and jealousy. I think the US is doing great or else people would stop trying to sneak in.




I agree the US is doing well on the markets (and happy for that); but as for the people "trying to sneak in", well they do if they're dirt poor and desperate. That's hardly a metric to judge the US by. It's like comparing your school grades to the class retard and thinking you're doing well. :rolleyes:

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2018/10/photos-migrant-caravan/573604/





How to judge a country is by the wealth of its people. :wink:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/06/24/australian-millionaries-credit-suisse/

Australians are the richest people in the world, says Credit Suisse

Australia’s millionaires club is no longer the exclusive preserve of the mega rich and famous.

A new report from Credit Suisse estimates as many as 1.8 million Australians are millionaires today based on net household wealth (defined as the value of financial and real assets minus debts).

The analysis, which uses US dollars and expects the number of Australian millionaires will grow to roughly 3.1 million by 2025, also found that Australians were the richest people in the world, with a median wealth per adult of $US238,070.

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    #27584541 - 12/17/21 07:44 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

And then people are like "don't you care that the mob is looting the Target?" And I'm like "lol, no, not my problem".

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Re: Anyone still feel hopeful for this great country we call USA? [Re: Kryptos]
    #27589571 - 12/21/21 02:42 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

What's really surprising is 25% of the USA nation is Hispanic/Mexican now. That 50 million population growth you guys had over the decades is mostly immigrants. I wonder how that will go down.

I wouldn't worry about your country. I think you have a really good government. They are interested in staying on top and they *will* stay there.

I just wish you guys had education financial resources like Australia's HECS. And I wish you had a strong middle class. I mean, the upper 5% (the owners of the private sector) are just looting the middle class with subliminal advertising, social engineering and lobbying. This is the problem with free market capitalism - that the private sector can go renegade.

I'd say that's 90% of your causes of problems in USA right there. The private sector looting the wealth from the rest of the country. They don't give a shit about you. But your government does.

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    #27589651 - 12/21/21 03:50 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

The US population has been below replacement since basically Reagan. Obama managed to bump it up a bit, but it's been dropping like a rock ever since. The US population only grows through immigration.

That will eventually be a problem. Musk isn't wrong.

One of the most amazing things about capitalism, in my opinion, is the fact that it was able to override the lizard brain urge to reproduce. I cannot think of a single thing that has ever been able to make people stop popping out babies except economic anxiety, and that's pretty awesome. That there is an accomplishment.

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    #27590067 - 12/21/21 10:30 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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What's really surprising is 25% of the USA nation is Hispanic/Mexican now. That 50 million population growth you guys had over the decades is mostly immigrants. I wonder how that will go down.





It will turn the US into what Trump bellowed about: "a shit hole".




As POC increases so does the poverty.





Even a casual glance at this State thematic map and spatially the poorest are to the south. Curiously the US has a huge land border to the third world hence they generally congregate not far from source.







It's not just the Hispanic influx, spatially speaking the higher the black population the greater the poverty. Visually compare these two thematic maps and that dark mass in the south east can't be ignored.







Of course, "White Flight" (as it is called) continues, because no one wants their kids to be victims. I live in a white area and prefer it as there's basically no crime. The local schools are some of the best in the country and one can expect their children will not be punching bags or knifed. All white classes, all white parents and teachers. Stereotypical fears, be it in Australia or the US, or anywhere for that matter, stem from observations. Massaging the language to assuage the triggered as the APA has done doesn't change this.

https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2021/10/white-flight-segregation

WASHINGTON — As the population of people of color grows across the United States, white Americans are still prone to move when neighborhoods diversify, and their fears and stereotypical beliefs about other racial and ethnic groups may help maintain segregation, according to research published by the American Psychological Association.


The statistics are grim. Black do the crimes well above their proportion number when one takes stock of the fact they're just 13% of the US population. https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/ucr.asp?table_in=2



The white flight has seen capital leave areas that are now POC. It's also a fact the American monied will continue to live in gated communities doing what they do best - looking after themselves.

The Top 1% of Americans Have Taken $50 Trillion From the Bottom 90%—And That's Made the U.S. Less Secure

https://time.com/5888024/50-trillion-income-inequality-america/



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-08/top-1-earners-hold-more-wealth-than-the-u-s-middle-class

After years of declines, America’s middle class now holds a smaller share of U.S. wealth than the top 1%.

The middle 60% of U.S. households by income -- a measure economists often use as a definition of the middle class -- saw their combined assets drop to 26.6% of national wealth as of June, the lowest in Federal Reserve data going back three decades. For the first time, the super rich had a bigger share, at 27%.



The rest will get the lifestyle of the slums that are expanding over the world. They fuck like bunnies as they have little else to do so that's also increasing the outcome.




The good news is the US stockmarkets will continue to rise in the long term because that's in the interests of the wealthy. Even the black swan of COVID has vanished as a speed hump in the rear view mirror.





The rest will be cut adrift so to speak (and have been for years). Basket place on the whole. Glad I don't live there. I'll just gleam what dough I can off the US markets. Better than the ASX and has been for years!


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