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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: mossroom]
#27573831 - 12/08/21 05:01 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moss, I don’t know if rihzo rider journaled his stuff with azzies but he’s pretty far up north.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Land Trout]
#27573842 - 12/08/21 05:08 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Would you recommend ps. cyanscens over azzies for a new cultivator in USDA zone 6a? I hear azzies can be more finicky to get to fruit in some places. Do you think cyans is more hardy?
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Man, I’m my experience yes, cyans have been easier than azzies, but I think some have done better azzies. Starting from most productive by experience mine would be 1ovoids 2subaeruginosa 3cyans 4azzies. But I think there’s a lot more variables than I understand.
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Yo fellas, sorry I didn’t “journal” my woodlover bed grows, I did WAY WAY back under way old old sir name now erased. I am prolly far north east central USA of most azzie keepers. If you send me pm I’d be glad to help give your questions some ideas I do have 15 yr old spawn and beds still thriving
I’ve got experience starting (new) spots with my azzies also. Went north and south, and one thing I’ve said even 13yr ago was my culture, takes a whole non fruiting winter to feel out our extra cold and short fall weather. Before 2nd winter they will show face. NEVER have I had my culture fruit same yr beds began! Never! Many ppl got nice beds first yr, but NEVER FRUITS
Also another quick tidbit here, ppl I’ve helped often don’t understand how cold azures like it. I think ppl give up on them more often as many other types do seem to fruit with ease and quicker turn around. My azzies are worth waiting to me https:// I could daze off at my own pics for Eva lol
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Land Trout]
#27573857 - 12/08/21 05:18 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thank you. I’m excited to get an outdoor bed going. Going back and forth between ovoids and cyans. Hopefully I can try both in my climate.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: rhizoRider]
#27573889 - 12/08/21 05:51 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Land Trout] 2
#27573928 - 12/08/21 06:29 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Land Trout said: Man, I’m my experience yes, cyans have been easier than azzies, but I think some have done better azzies. Starting from most productive by experience mine would be 1ovoids 2subaeruginosa 3cyans 4azzies. But I think there’s a lot more variables than I understand.
Yeah, ovoids are monsters when it comes to surviving, fruiting, and spreading.
Cyans are definitely hardier than azzies. Azzies are like me, a princess that likes it just so.
I think a bed about 6-8" deep would help them survive a winter, as would maybe laying some thick cardboard over them for the winter. It's hard to say as zone six is really cold.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
#27574145 - 12/08/21 10:00 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thank you for the tips Mr. Piggy. I’m very excited to get some woodlovers on agar, and I may have been swayed to try with ovoids and cyans. I have the perfect spot picked out under some “burning bushes,” and I’ve been accumulating hardwood chips and compost.
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Hi guys,
I'd like to chime in here. Over the last few pages I see that a lot of people seem to think that Azurescens are more difficult than cyans or other woodlovers. However, this has not been my experience at all.
A lot probably depends on genetics but my Azurescens patch did great this first season, unlike my cyan bed, which also fruited the first season but not as prolific.
We'll have to see how it survives winter but I'm not worried as I'm in hardiness zone 8
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: rhizoRider]
#27574279 - 12/09/21 03:06 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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rhizoRider said: Yo fellas, sorry I didn’t “journal” my woodlover bed grows, I did WAY WAY back under way old old sir name now erased. I am prolly far north east central USA of most azzie keepers. If you send me pm I’d be glad to help give your questions some ideas I do have 15 yr old spawn and beds still thriving
I’ve got experience starting (new) spots with my azzies also. Went north and south, and one thing I’ve said even 13yr ago was my culture, takes a whole non fruiting winter to feel out our extra cold and short fall weather. Before 2nd winter they will show face. NEVER have I had my culture fruit same yr beds began! Never! Many ppl got nice beds first yr, but NEVER FRUITS
Also another quick tidbit here, ppl I’ve helped often don’t understand how cold azures like it. I think ppl give up on them more often as many other types do seem to fruit with ease and quicker turn around. My azzies are worth waiting to me https:// I could daze off at my own pics for Eva lol
Some of mine fruited first season, others only after 3 years. Same culture. It's not the timing, it's the humidity. That is one GORGEOUS Azzy photo you got there mate. I have seen very few that were so beautiful!
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adas] 1
#27574304 - 12/09/21 04:32 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Had some strange growth on a Psilocybe stuntzii plate, looks like mycelium grew under the agar? For a bit I thought it was bacterial but didn't really look like tradional bacteria, not uniform but had that glossy/wet sheen, but after a day or so started looking more normal. T0 germination plate is fine, so I don't know where the bacteria would have come from, I'm not sloppy at all with my sterile work.
Anyways here are some photos.
Two days later.
Hard to get a good shot sometimes, especially with a phone. Thought it was interesting to share, as I've never seen this.
Got a few new species, stuntzii and baeocystis, and have weraroa on the way. Stuntzii germinated very well, but baeos seem to germ slower, and initial plates had some hitchhiking bacteria from the print, so I remade them in case they go to shit, used some gentamicin as to me a rare and small print constitutes an emergency to save the spores. They are beautiful fruits, love the little skirt they have on the cap margin.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: holofractal]
#27574319 - 12/09/21 05:23 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Azurenscens sure as fuck didn't even make primordia during my first winter with them.
They had late summer, autumn and winter, never gave a single fuck.
Hello
Is there anybody out there
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: holofractal]
#27574322 - 12/09/21 05:35 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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May or may not be bacteria. But I sure do see it happen sometimes. Just let it grow out. I think it's just mycelium growing into the agar making it look weird.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: holofractal] 1
#27574541 - 12/09/21 09:37 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh I'm sticking around for this Holofractal!
Stuntzii are number one on my list to find and print. First active I ever found and they've all but disappeared from Portland since. I'd like to make some cultures and give them a fighting chance again.
Baeos too! They're are the top of the list just under Stuntzii.
I can't wait to have flower pots of all the local woodlovers going.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: rhizoRider]
#27574544 - 12/09/21 09:42 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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My azzies are worth waiting to me https:// I could daze off at my own pics for Eva lol
This is a fantastic example of woodlovers having no problem with pine.
I don't remember if it was this thread I was having the discussion in, but a member claimed woodlovers would not colonize pine with the focus of the conversation being on azzies.
People have a lot of preconceived notions about what woodlovers will live on without any actual proof. As far as I can tell the only things they will not colonize are cedar and cyprus. This does not mean they will not colonize chips placed underneath a cedar or cyprus, or that they will not colonize chips with cedar or cyprus mixed in. Cedar does not have magic no-azzie vibes, it just isn't colonized by them.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] 7
#27574566 - 12/09/21 09:52 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Several azzie pots have decided it's time for flush #2
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: elpico]
#27574571 - 12/09/21 09:55 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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elpico said: Several azzie pots have decided it's time for flush #2
What temp / humidity did primordia show up for you, elpico?
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: elpico]
#27574576 - 12/09/21 09:56 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
#27574667 - 12/09/21 11:21 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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That’s so awesome. I hope one day to get an azzy print for myself to add to my cultivation efforts. Right now, I got some P. Allenii going, but hope to add others.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: rhizoRider]
#27574669 - 12/09/21 11:24 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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That is such an awesome sight to behold. 🤩
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