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OfflineBrian Jones
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27551591 - 11/20/21 07:29 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I find myself amused by the guy talking anti-vax over in the conspiracy forum. He keeps talking about not "opening his veins". I think he's taking a drama class. He needs a human bio class.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: koods]
    #27552090 - 11/21/21 07:21 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Not mandating a vaccine that will prevent mass suffering and protect the healthcare system would be a act of cowardice and a moral failing. Your country has the power to essentially get through the pandemic without any mass casualties. The vaccine resistance is a threat to the stability of the country. It’s time to stop indulging the antivaxxers. In every western country they are preventing society from returning to normal. Lock them down and open up the rest of society, and don’t let them leave their houses until they fucking grow up. Until they are vaxxed, everyone is going to suffer continued lock downs and restrictions. The unvaccinated don’t have the right to fuck up everyone else’s lives.





Koods, I can see your point and frustration. But, just exactly how would you do it? The ADF, AFP and State police would be reluctant to do this as it was tried in the state of Victoria seeing to the thuggery on civilians. This is Australia not Tiananmen Square. Given the massive anti-mandate marches across the country on this weekend it won't happen. ScoMo has already sided them for his coming federal.

So, no too far from now when the international borders open large numbers of elderly, the obese/comorbid and the immuno-compromised will die. Far more will get long term covid and the public Medicare health system seems unlikely to survive that because it is struggling now. Meanwhile lockdowns will happen again as will masks. Just like it has happened OS.

On the up side there you won't have a national health system like ObamaCare (what we have here is called Medicare) to fall apart. :smirk:


Edited by Oz_Salvia (11/21/21 07:22 AM)


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Kryptos]
    #27552382 - 11/21/21 11:47 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Committing violence in response to violence is what we here call "self defense".




How did that work out for George Floyd?


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 4
    #27552493 - 11/21/21 01:21 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

You mean the guy that got killed for no reason and failed to use self defense?

Clearly, the lesson here is that (a) more black people need to be strapped and (b) more black people need to be willing to drop cops in self defense.

It's like the NRA says, there's never a bad time for more guns.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 2
    #27552707 - 11/21/21 05:00 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I'll bet you're a lot of fun at parties.

Honest question, do you try to troll like this irl?
Does anyone take you seriously?
Do you take yourself seriously?


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: ballsalsa]
    #27552902 - 11/21/21 07:52 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Honest question, do you try to troll like this irl?
Does anyone take you seriously?
Do you take yourself seriously?




Yes.
I hope not.
No.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Kryptos]
    #27553503 - 11/22/21 11:39 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I was asking tubgirl, lol, but I appreciate the sentiment.
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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Kryptos]
    #27554445 - 11/23/21 04:45 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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You mean the guy that got killed for no reason and failed to use self defense?

Clearly, the lesson here is that (a) more black people need to be strapped and (b) more black people need to be willing to drop cops in self defense.

It's like the NRA says, there's never a bad time for more guns.


yep it reminds me of the man that drove threw that crowd in Wisconsin running from white supremacist.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Mach z 800] * 1
    #27570118 - 12/05/21 09:26 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

This really should go in the right wing compendium, but it turns out pro trump counties die of Covid at 3 times the rate of joe counties. People really should stop being so fucking retarded.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: christopera]
    #27571109 - 12/06/21 08:15 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Darwinism at it's finest. Unfortunately, they probably already reproduced.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27571115 - 12/06/21 08:29 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

They made 5 to replace the 2, because they realize they are going to voluntarily die at rates higher than required.

Nice.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #27571135 - 12/06/21 08:53 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Darwinism at it's finest. Unfortunately, they probably already reproduced.






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If during the long course of ages and under varying conditions of life, organic beings vary at all in the several parts of their organisation, and I think this cannot be disputed; if there be, owing to the high geometrical powers of increase of each species, at some age, season, or year, a severe struggle for life, and this certainly cannot be disputed; then, considering the infinite complexity of the relations of all organic beings to each other and to their conditions of existence, causing an infinite diversity in structure, constitution, and habits, to be advantageous to them, I think it would be a most extraordinary fact if no variation ever had occurred useful to each being's own welfare, in the same way as so many variations have occurred useful to man. But if variations useful to any organic being do occur, assuredly individuals thus characterised will have the best chance of being preserved in the struggle for life; and from the strong principle of inheritance they will tend to produce offspring similarly characterised. This principle of preservation, I have called, for the sake of brevity, Natural Selection.




— Darwin summarising natural selection in the fourth chapter of On the Origin of Species[22]

Covid itself would cause natural selection.

Vaccines would be a form of artificial selection, slowing or stopping natural selection:
allowing people who normally would die, to survive.

See also dysgenics :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgenics

I don't mean to offend you. Just wanted to clear up how evolution works.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: anatomality] * 2
    #27571137 - 12/06/21 08:59 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Social Darwinism isn’t real. It’s not far removed from eugenics. It however has become accepted in the sense that dumb people do dumb things. Not getting vaccinated being one of those things.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: christopera]
    #27571145 - 12/06/21 09:15 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I'll show myself out :wink:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism

I agree that social Darwinism doesn't really exist.
Unless you actually enforce eugenics.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: anatomality] * 1
    #27571254 - 12/06/21 11:12 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

Brian Jones said:
Darwinism at it's finest. Unfortunately, they probably already reproduced.






Quote:

If during the long course of ages and under varying conditions of life, organic beings vary at all in the several parts of their organisation, and I think this cannot be disputed; if there be, owing to the high geometrical powers of increase of each species, at some age, season, or year, a severe struggle for life, and this certainly cannot be disputed; then, considering the infinite complexity of the relations of all organic beings to each other and to their conditions of existence, causing an infinite diversity in structure, constitution, and habits, to be advantageous to them, I think it would be a most extraordinary fact if no variation ever had occurred useful to each being's own welfare, in the same way as so many variations have occurred useful to man. But if variations useful to any organic being do occur, assuredly individuals thus characterised will have the best chance of being preserved in the struggle for life; and from the strong principle of inheritance they will tend to produce offspring similarly characterised. This principle of preservation, I have called, for the sake of brevity, Natural Selection.




— Darwin summarising natural selection in the fourth chapter of On the Origin of Species[22]

Covid itself would cause natural selection.

Vaccines would be a form of artificial selection, slowing or stopping natural selection:
allowing people who normally would die, to survive.

See also dysgenics :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgenics

I don't mean to offend you. Just wanted to clear up how evolution works.




Covid is causing natural selection. But isn't people being intelligent enough to choose the vaccine, or not an issue of biological fitness? I realize the difference between the two groups wasn't caused by a random mutation. But isn't risking your life over some misguided notion of liberty an example of being less fit to survive. Maybe it's a stretch to call it Darwinism, but in modern society good vs bad decisions about lifestyle are a major determinant of who survives and who doesn't.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27574925 - 12/09/21 03:31 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

My coworker tells me that if I get vaccinated.. ill have a microchip implanted in me... that crosses the blood brain barrier.. and is made of graphene.

And also... he said the Simpsons is his go to for predictions about the future.

I'm more of a family guy... guy.. though. Wonder how that tracks.

Hi guys! :-D

Don't get vaccinated.

Bye.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: christopera]
    #27574926 - 12/09/21 03:34 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Social Darwinism isn’t real. It’s not far removed from eugenics. It however has become accepted in the sense that dumb people do dumb things. Not getting vaccinated being one of those things.




Fuck off bro.. im not vaccinated, and I'm not getting it. Pretty sure I've already had covid. I have this theory... smoking crack kills covid.

If it doesn't work... at least I get to smoke crack. Mmm crack.

But really... Im not getting vaccinated.. just doesn't seem necessary to me. Demonize all you like.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #27574955 - 12/09/21 03:58 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Feel free to not get vaccinated. Just don't end up in the ER costing the rest of us money for something that is free to prevent. Or, you know, give COVID to other people that end up in the ER costing the rest us money for something that is free to prevent.

It's pretty simple.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: christopera] * 1
    #27576293 - 12/10/21 03:03 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I tested positive
A breakthrough infection I was vaccinated way back in April
Stupidly I put off the booster. My buddy got one a couple weeks back and constantly has been around me was fine.

Everyone that was at work this last Saturday tested positive besides one lady that always wears a mask.

Im mid 30s quite healthy. I felt like I was drowning yesterday. Granted I was only sick Wednesday afternoon and yesterday. Today I feel pretty good but not 100%

Im sure without the vaccine I would have been sick long and worse. Possibly with some lung tissue damage.

You're literally stupid as fuck if you don't want to get a small inactivated piece of covid before getting the whole live covid virus. There's no other way to put it. Sheep about freedom and choice...

Natural immunity is at least 5 times less strong than vaccine mediated immunity.


I sincerely hope every antivaxxer that gets covid goes through hell or dies :shrug: it's not even worth being human to people who can't be human back to the rest of society.

Even I started off skeptical but anyone with more than 3 working neurons has figured it out by now

I'm sure some joke will find a way to make my statements out to be so mean and evil...

At this point in the covid timeline antivaxxers are the same playing field as pedophiles. Valueless to society.


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Re: Coronavirus Chat [Re: bodhisatta] * 2
    #27576454 - 12/10/21 05:20 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Lots of people getting infected lately. Hospitals in my area are filling up again... 75% unvaccinated taking up beds in a state where only 19% of the population is unvaccinated :facepalm:. The ICU's are almost entirely unvaccinated

Fucking wild the death pledge these people are taking.

Yeah who knows how your infection would've played out if you weren't vaccinated. No matter how many different ways you try to explain this to people, they simply refuse to believe that 'young and healthy' people can and frequently do get very sick from Covid.

I've worked with more Covid patients in their 20s than in the 65+ age bracket, and it's solely because 95-99% of seniors in my state are vaccinated.


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