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Anybody know Jimmy Dore?
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He has a politics channel on YouTube. Just curious if anyone knows him.
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He get's brought up here fairly often. He, like most people that do things for money, will say whatever he thinks is going to sell. For example, he likes to criticize the mainstream media, but he's cozy with the king of bullshit media, Tucker Carlson. If he was truly critical he would turn down offers to be on Tucker Carlson's show.
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christopera said: He get's brought up here fairly often. He, like most people that do things for money, will say whatever he thinks is going to sell. For example, he likes to criticize the mainstream media, but he's cozy with the king of bullshit media, Tucker Carlson. If he was truly critical he would turn down offers to be on Tucker Carlson's show.
That's an interesting assumption... and expectation. Completely false as I actually know Jimmy and his wife personally when I was good friends with someone who is close with them and very close with Lee Camp.
They are not wealthy like Tucker Carlson or any other media channel or youtube show. Going on his show is a way to bring divided people together. Kinda sad you didn't realize that. He'd be on every single platform spreading the same messages if they let him. Has nothing to do with Tucker Carlson.
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Not really. As they say, "put your money where your mouth is."
Dore has done pretty much that. He pulls a left wing shtick and turns around and does exactly the things he criticizes. He plays the left wing character and gets cozy with anybody that will help him sell. He's building his media model to cater to centrists and conservatives while playing a left wing character.
I don't expect him to be perfect on air, or even in his positions. Nobody is. That said, he has had his fair share of bumps in the road. Recently he harassed Ana Kasparian, cool. He supported Tulsi Gabbard over Bernie, lol. Essentially he's become a populist, which is perfect, because he's trying to make money not change the world.
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christopera said: Not really. As they say, "put your money where your mouth is."
Dore has done pretty much that. He pulls a left wing shtick and turns around and does exactly the things he criticizes. He plays the left wing character and gets cozy with anybody that will help him sell. He's building his media model to cater to centrists and conservatives while playing a left wing character.
I don't expect him to be perfect on air, or even in his positions. Nobody is. That said, he has had his fair share of bumps in the road. Recently he harassed Ana Kasparian, cool. He supported Tulsi Gabbard over Bernie, lol. Essentially he's become a populist, which is perfect, because he's trying to make money not change the world.

You are sososo lost. It's sad. I don't even wanna bother. Please list the exact hypocrisy you're accusing him of. Schtick is not even comprehendable especially in that kind of accusation.
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Do you have a position on Jimmy? Or are you too busy licking his taint to form an opinion?
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christopera said: Not really. As they say, "put your money where your mouth is."
Dore has done pretty much that. He pulls a left wing shtick and turns around and does exactly the things he criticizes. He plays the left wing character and gets cozy with anybody that will help him sell. He's building his media model to cater to centrists and conservatives while playing a left wing character.
I don't expect him to be perfect on air, or even in his positions. Nobody is. That said, he has had his fair share of bumps in the road. Recently he harassed Ana Kasparian, cool. He supported Tulsi Gabbard over Bernie, lol. Essentially he's become a populist, which is perfect, because he's trying to make money not change the world.

You are sososo lost. It's sad. I don't even wanna bother. Please list the exact hypocrisy you're accusing him of. Schtick is not even comprehendable especially in that kind of accusation.
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shtick /SHtik/ Learn to pronounce nounINFORMAL noun: schtick a gimmick, comic routine, style of performance, etc. associated with a particular person. "there are many great comics who have based their stand-up shtick on observational comedy"
Jimmy goes on Tucker, they agree on some stuff. Jimmy profits. Jimmy is a self described comic, he puts on a routine for his show.
Jimmy famously got bent out of shape over a lack of vote on universal healthcare, but Jimmy backed Tulsi, who was pro private healthcare.
It is case and point a shtick. It's cool you toss his salad though.
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christopera said: Not really. As they say, "put your money where your mouth is."
Dore has done pretty much that. He pulls a left wing shtick and turns around and does exactly the things he criticizes. He plays the left wing character and gets cozy with anybody that will help him sell. He's building his media model to cater to centrists and conservatives while playing a left wing character.
I don't expect him to be perfect on air, or even in his positions. Nobody is. That said, he has had his fair share of bumps in the road. Recently he harassed Ana Kasparian, cool. He supported Tulsi Gabbard over Bernie, lol. Essentially he's become a populist, which is perfect, because he's trying to make money not change the world.

You are sososo lost. It's sad. I don't even wanna bother. Please list the exact hypocrisy you're accusing him of. Schtick is not even comprehendable especially in that kind of accusation.
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shtick /SHtik/ Learn to pronounce nounINFORMAL noun: schtick a gimmick, comic routine, style of performance, etc. associated with a particular person. "there are many great comics who have based their stand-up shtick on observational comedy"
Jimmy goes on Tucker, they agree on some stuff. Jimmy profits. Jimmy is a self described comic, he puts on a routine for his show.
Jimmy famously got bent out of shape over a lack of vote on universal healthcare, but Jimmy backed Tulsi, who was pro private healthcare.
It is case and point a shtick. It's cool you toss his salad though.
Lmfao you can't accuse someone of hypocrisy based on just a schtick. Please elaborate what "they agree on some stuff" is. That's what I asked you to do.
Jimmy backed Tulsi a long while ago and stopped backing her because she is a liar just like bernie. People make mistakes dude. He admitted that. I don't toss his salad lol. I just support people who don't lie, let alone lie for money or votes. Quite simple actually.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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I previously referred to him here as a carnival huckster. But hey, the people who do like him, like him alot. Tossing salad, LOL.
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Yes, I can accuse him of hypocrisy based on shtick. He plays a character. That character acts like he represents one thing, but the actions do something else. He loves to accuse mainstream media of profiteering, shilling for endless military industrial state, then appears on the most profitable of those stations, and he does so with the most profitable host they have.
Explain away Jimmy backing universal healthcare, while also backing Tulsi, who openly said she was for private insurance and not socialized care. Go ahead, let's hear it.
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I don’t know much about the dude but I do know he never “harassed” Ana Kasparian. She’s a dumb bitch if I’ve ever seen one and is always making false allegations about anyone she doesn’t like. Same goes for Cenk.
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Explain away Jimmy backing universal healthcare, while also backing Tulsi, who openly said she was for private insurance and not socialized care. Go ahead, let's hear it.
Here, let me help you out, again.
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hy·poc·ri·sy /həˈpäkrəsē/ Learn to pronounce noun the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.
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I don't know if you know this, but in politics, it's common to ignore an issue momentarily such as universal healthcare to end something else such as the military industrial complex. The money alone from decreasing or ending the military industrial complex could easily pay for universal healthcare.
You can't even use real examples. What is he representing that he doesn't show in his actions? Like I said, any network that invites Jimmy, he is happy to go on and spread the same message he always does. That's not hypocrisy in any way shape or shorm. So again, please share exactly what he has done or said that exhibits hypocrisy. He is for universal healthcare. He openly says that. Tulsi is a different person(don't know if you're aware of that lmfao) and he no longer supports her because she lied about being against the military industrial complex. So you can't say he supports her. He doesn't. What's past is past and he admitted that mistake.
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So in your opinion the YouTube host is ignoring certain things to gain traction in other areas, while not holding any elected position?

Those are some mental gymnastics. Jimmy sells advertisements for money, that’s his profession. I have used several legitimate examples. Jimmy’s commitment to mainstream media despite his own supposed critique of it is exhibit one. If he had the moral backbone you are sweating about he’d have stuck it out on the world’s least capitalistic platform, YouTube. There’s nothing like being anti establishment when you get paid by the worlds second most valuable brand, all the while hanging out with thr worlds most watched news anchor on the most watched conservative cable news network.
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SporeJunkie said: I don’t know much about the dude but I do know he never “harassed” Ana Kasparian. She’s a dumb bitch if I’ve ever seen one and is always making false allegations about anyone she doesn’t like. Same goes for Cenk.
Jimmy admitted to it. Feel free to have him refute.
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When he said “nice news skirt”?
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: SporeJunkie]
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If he had a problem with checking out Ana's ass and thong he could have closed his eyes. Beleive it or not, men see vaginas all the time and fail to be a creep about it. Of course he didn't close his eyes, and according to Jimmy she was humiliated by his joke, he got great laughs though. Totally worthwhile in Jimmy's eyes.
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Feel free to paint her as a slut or whatever. There's nothing like victim blaming to shed responsibility. Jimmy, bastion of the free world, can't help but jerk off to Ana's underwear. What a guy.
Here's the thing, I have no idea who Ana is, I just happened to turn on his show where he tried to explain his creepiness. Oof, it was bad. It was probably just locker room talk though. There's nothing wrong with being a gross old man when it's a joke or when it's not heard by women.
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Humiliation is not the same as harassment. He didn’t even mean to humiliate her. From what I recall, he apologized. She’s in a professional environment and dressed inappropriately. You shouldn’t be able to see anyones underwear. Maybe he shouldn’t have made the joke. I didn’t think it was funny but that is subjective. Still, the man never harassed her.
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This has to be a record. We aren't discussing big words or complex ideas.
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When he made that absolutely off the charts, world changing joke, Ana probably laughed so hard she farted. Or maybe she felt like shit about it, which Jimmy wrote her a note apologizing for.
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Just awful. one of the worst political commenters out there. Very popular with the fascist “‘left.” Really just a water carrier for right wing ideology dressed up as a left winger.
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christopera said: So in your opinion the YouTube host is ignoring certain things to gain traction in other areas, while not holding any elected position?

Those are some mental gymnastics. Jimmy sells advertisements for money, that’s his profession. I have used several legitimate examples. Jimmy’s commitment to mainstream media despite his own supposed critique of it is exhibit one. If he had the moral backbone you are sweating about he’d have stuck it out on the world’s least capitalistic platform, YouTube. There’s nothing like being anti establishment when you get paid by the worlds second most valuable brand, all the while hanging out with thr worlds most watched news anchor on the most watched conservative cable news network.
Mainstream media is mainstream for a reason. It has a wider and larger audience. He also has never stopped doing YouTube so you're point makes 0 sense. Based on the amount of work he puts in making videos and interviewing people, he can't not make money or he'd be homeless. Majority of his money made is donations too... you just don't like him. You're making false accusations he's a sellout because he doesn't do what you want him to do like supporting Bernie over Tulsi, which wasn't in American's best interest. As soon as Tulsi was exposed to not be in American's best interest he stopped supporting her. He's also not 'friends' with Tucker Carlson, they are agree on the uslessness of the military industrial complex, but you sure want to believe that so badly for your own personal dislike of Jimmy.
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I appreciate you putting up definitions but I’m still not sure how you’re getting “nice news skirt” confused with aggressive pressure or intimidation.
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Those are some mental gymnastics. Jimmy sells advertisements for money, that’s his profession. I have used several legitimate examples. Jimmy’s commitment to mainstream media despite his own supposed critique of it is exhibit one. If he had the moral backbone you are sweating about he’d have stuck it out on the world’s least capitalistic platform, YouTube. There’s nothing like being anti establishment when you get paid by the worlds second most valuable brand, all the while hanging out with thr worlds most watched news anchor on the most watched conservative cable news network.
Mainstream media is mainstream for a reason. It has a wider and larger audience. He also has never stopped doing YouTube so you're point makes 0 sense. Based on the amount of work he puts in making videos and interviewing people, he can't not make money or he'd be homeless. Majority of his money made is donations too... you just don't like him. You're making false accusations he's a sellout because he doesn't do what you want him to do like supporting Bernie over Tulsi, which wasn't in American's best interest. As soon as Tulsi was exposed to not be in American's best interest he stopped supporting her. He's also not 'friends' with Tucker Carlson, they are agree on the uslessness of the military industrial complex, but you sure want to believe that so badly for your own personal dislike of Jimmy.
It went over your head, obviously.
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He wrote her an apology. What was he apologizing for?
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For embarrassing her.
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Proof?
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Apparently the anti establishment are supposed to do free labour for years to get a message across and are expected to work more to support themselves simultaneously. You acted like a big bad network had sent him cheques by that comment.
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Apparently the anti establishment are supposed to do free labour for years to get a message across and are expected to work more to support themselves simultaneously. You acted like a big bad network had sent him cheques by that comment.
They do. His videos are monetized. They don’t send actual checks, they just deposit money into his bank account. That’s how YouTube works.
Dore has been a fruitcake for years. I remember him on TYT talking about building seven conspiracies.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods] 1
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It seems so.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods] 2
#27571651 - 12/06/21 05:16 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Apparently the anti establishment are supposed to do free labour for years to get a message across and are expected to work more to support themselves simultaneously. You acted like a big bad network had sent him cheques by that comment.
They do. His videos are monetized. They don’t send actual checks, they just deposit money into his bank account. That’s how YouTube works.
Dore has been a fruitcake for years. I remember him on TYT talking about building seven conspiracies.
For the most part there’s a reason ideas are antiestablishment and not mainstream - they’re stupid ideas
Everyone who's somebody on YouTube has monetized videos. Again, he wouldn't have an audience if he didn't use YouTube. He wouldn't be able to get his message across. Not sure what alternatives you guys could think of where he can put in that much time and not be homeless. I'm waiting to know. A lot of people who are anti establishment would love to know.
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Local Domino's is probably hiring.
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Local Domino's is probably hiring.
A full time job at Domino's to be able to get anywhere near a living wage would leave Jimmy with 0 time to interview people and make videos on YouTube.
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And that is a bad thing?
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Local Domino's is probably hiring.
A full time job at Domino's to be able to get anywhere near a living wage would leave Jimmy with 0 time to interview people and make videos on YouTube.
Having an honest job wouldn’t leave him time to be dishonest on YouTube. Sounds like a good idea.
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At least Jim would be doing something society values.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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Here's a summary of this thread.
Falcon Revgurl jerks off to Jimmy D. She wonders by he's so retarded. Everybody is like, "you can tell by the way that he is." Also, here's proof.
Revgurl is like "but I tossed his salad."
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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very close with Lee Camp
Wow she knows a lot of tools
I ended up on an email list and his show was constantly begging people to come on down to the studios of the Russian state propaganda network to clap and laugh on demand during his show. Is he still working for the Russian government?
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As soon as Tulsi was exposed to not be in American's best interest he stopped supporting her.
We’ve been joking about Tulsi for years. How could anyone be so obtuse to not see her for what she really is? She used to be a fucking anti gay activist. She’s claimed to be anti war while BEING IN THE MILITARY. Jesus Christ, how stupid are people? Most aren’t as stupid as Jimmy Dore, that’s for sure.
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Local Domino's is probably hiring.
A full time job at Domino's to be able to get anywhere near a living wage would leave Jimmy with 0 time to interview people and make videos on YouTube.
Having an honest job wouldn’t leave him time to be dishonest on YouTube. Sounds like a good idea.
Feel free to list what he is dishonest about.
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Just search my name and jimmy dore. I’ve highlighted a bunch of his bullshit over the years. He’s definitely the king of clickbaity dishonest video titles. Falcon isn’t around anymore so we haven’t been subjected to a constant stream of his videos in the past year or so.
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#27571770 - 12/06/21 07:12 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon Revgurl jerks off to Jimmy D. She wonders by he's so retarded. Everybody is like, "you can tell by the way that he is." Also, here's proof.
Revgurl is like "but I tossed his salad."
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Aw you're a mentally ill gaslighter? That's cute. I guess shrooms couldn't help you overcome your personal obstacles.
You and 2 people are not 'everyone'. Your information sharing skills are grade 3 level. I have proven your arguments and accusations to be false or admitted mistakes and all you can do is comment on monetized YouTube videos now. Quite entertaining you ran out of critiques, now you're like 'but he makes money sharing info I don't agree with, he MUST be a sellout then.'
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If you feel so strongly about your points, you should be able to simply explain them here. Oooo video titles, wow that's huuuuuuge bud.
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christopera said: Here's a summary of this thread.
Falcon Revgurl jerks off to Jimmy D. She wonders by he's so retarded. Everybody is like, "you can tell by the way that he is." Also, here's proof.
Revgurl is like "but I tossed his salad."
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Aw you're a mentally ill gaslighter? That's cute. I guess shrooms couldn't help you overcome your personal obstacles.
You and 2 people are not 'everyone'. Your information sharing skills are grade 3 level. I have proven your arguments and accusations to be false or admitted mistakes and all you can do is comment on monetized YouTube videos now. Quite entertaining you ran out of critiques, now you're like 'but he makes money sharing info I don't agree with, he MUST be a sellout then.'
You haven’t proven shit. You’ve not provided a single source nor have you attempted to refute a single point of mine outside of “nuh uh.”
Go ahead and call me names all you like. Jimmy sucks dick and basically everybody here knows it.
Jimmy makes money selling media. There is no denying that. He’s no different than Tucker, Alex Jones, or Tim Pool. He just makes less money. Give Alex Jones’ history a look, when George Bush jr was in office Alex was a left wing conspiracy theorist.
Then there’s you, you’ve failed to make a single point about why Jim is doing good work. The premise of this entire thread is you digging for validation for your interest in Jim, you didn’t get that and your feelings are hurt. Boohoo.
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If you feel so strongly about your points, you should be able to simply explain them here
No. I can’t remember the exact videos or what he said that I had issues with. If you’re interested I have already told you how to find them. Do your own research, as they say
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I guess shrooms couldn't help you overcome your personal obstacles.
This website is full of degenerate assholes who seemingly were never saved by a mushroom
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods]
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Mushrooms saved Joe Rogan.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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Another good candidate for Domino's Delivery.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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If the driving standards weren't so low in this country Joe couldn't even get a license.
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#27571960 - 12/06/21 11:35 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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christopera said: Here's a summary of this thread.
Falcon Revgurl jerks off to Jimmy D. She wonders by he's so retarded. Everybody is like, "you can tell by the way that he is." Also, here's proof.
Revgurl is like "but I tossed his salad."
/thread
Aw you're a mentally ill gaslighter? That's cute. I guess shrooms couldn't help you overcome your personal obstacles.
You and 2 people are not 'everyone'. Your information sharing skills are grade 3 level. I have proven your arguments and accusations to be false or admitted mistakes and all you can do is comment on monetized YouTube videos now. Quite entertaining you ran out of critiques, now you're like 'but he makes money sharing info I don't agree with, he MUST be a sellout then.'
You haven’t proven shit. You’ve not provided a single source nor have you attempted to refute a single point of mine outside of “nuh uh.”
Go ahead and call me names all you like. Jimmy sucks dick and basically everybody here knows it.
Jimmy makes money selling media. There is no denying that. He’s no different than Tucker, Alex Jones, or Tim Pool. He just makes less money. Give Alex Jones’ history a look, when George Bush jr was in office Alex was a left wing conspiracy theorist.
Then there’s you, you’ve failed to make a single point about why Jim is doing good work. The premise of this entire thread is you digging for validation for your interest in Jim, you didn’t get that and your feelings are hurt. Boohoo.
I just asked if anyone knew him. No validition required. I didn't give you "nuh uh" answers(seriously, are you in grade 3?).
I explained to you why Jimmy was supporting Tulsi over Bernie and how just because someone is on another's show doesn't make them friends or mean they agree on everything. Also how Jimmy admits his mistakes in his videos. Did you want video proof of that?
My feelings are far from hurt. Because like I said I knew him and his wife personally and you're just some stranger. I just feel sorry how politically disabled you are. Everyone who does media, makes money selling media. Being a sellout means you're willing to push constantly what pays you. If Jimmy was a sellout, nearly all his videos would be about the YouTube platform which they aren't... your accusations are not valid. You don't like him and don't support him which is fine.
Jimmy tries to bring people from all political stances on common ground and discourages the divide encouraged by political parties and general media. That's a brief explanation for the good work he does. Bringing American's together.
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I feel like your obsession with Domino's would make you an optimal employee.
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If you feel so strongly about your points, you should be able to simply explain them here
No. I can’t remember the exact videos or what he said that I had issues with. If you’re interested I have already told you how to find them. Do your own research, as they say
Wait a second.. so now it's about something he said you had issues with? Not false information he shared you proven to be false? Interesting... yeah I'll pass. Looking up your opinion isn't research.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: Lynnch]
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So Jim does things that pay and some that don't pay, but he leans towards things that don't pay as to avoid being a sellout? He makes money, by creating content that sells, but his content that sells doesn't make him a sell out because his videos aren't about YouTube, the platform that pays him to post content?
Do you hear yourself?
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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I used to wonder if the low production values of his shows was an act to sell the "edgy alternative" image he likes to portray for himself. After thinking about it, I'm still wondering.
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So Jim does things that pay and some that don't pay, but he leans towards things that don't pay as to avoid being a sellout? He makes money, by creating content that sells, but his content that sells doesn't make him a sell out because his videos aren't about YouTube, the platform that pays him to post content?
Do you hear yourself?
Yes. All his content sells actually. He gets donations too remember.
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Jim's altruism knows no bounds.
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A better question: is it more expensive to use fake crappy production values?
Because it definitely costs extra to pre-rip jeans and drag chains over furniture.
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I think the low production value is just sort of a hand off from radio.
Here's a good one.
Jimmy claims Ivermectin won a Noble Peace price, which is hilarious, because drugs don't win Nobel Peace prizes, people do. The two scientists who won the prize did win it for their work with Ivermectin, but the drug was developed for roundworm in 2015. Jimmy then leans on Joe Rogan for proof that Ivermectin works, because Joe got better and that's proof enough. Jim says to watch other Youtube videos for more proof, ha. On top of that, Jimmy misses the entire point. People were going to local feed stores and buying Ivermectin off the shelf, which was intended for horses and other live stock. So he's bitching about "horse paste" being defamatory, while totally misrepresenting the reality of how many people acquired Ivermectin.
Jim goes on to cite the Japanese medical chairman on how Ivermectin should be used to treat COVID. Jim didn't do his research, the Tokyo Medical Association isn't affiliated with the government. They are a private organization. Ivermectin is not approved for COVID treatment by the Japanese government, Jim has egg on his face (or would if he wasn't a retard).
I personally would love if more science deniers took Jim's advice. They should do Youtube doctors visits. We could greatly reduce our healthcare costs in this country if we just had like 10 stock doctors visits on Youtube. You get sick, you just pick the most convenient one. Hopefully you were smart enough to treat yourself. That's the culture Jim is creating.
Jimmy is exactly the propagandized dipshit he claims to rail against. Irony at its best.

He even gets a little braggadocios about Russia's socialized healthcare, but follows up with a bunch of bullshit where he justifies a position based on twitter likes. What a fucking turd.
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Wait did they really say Nobel PEACE prize? The guy who discovered avermectin got the Nobel prize in Physiology.
Wow I just watched the first five minutes. “Ivermectin has saved millions of lives.” Yes, treating people who have parasitic worms, not covid. I forgot how totally dishonest Jimmy Dore is. He’s repugnant.
Didn’t Rogan say he also got the monoclonal antibody treatment? That actually works and these assholes give the credit to a drug that hasn’t shown any real benefit post infection
He calls people who don’t praise ivermectin “shitlibs”
Someone posted in the right wingers thread a clip of Dore defending Kyle Rittenhouse
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods]
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I can't think of a drug that would make watching Oozing Sore bearable.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: SporeJunkie]
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Dore is a blowhard that isn’t smart enough to develop his seat-of-the-pants ideology in real time without making himself look like an idiot. But when your credibility (in the eyes of your fans) rests on “the democrats are lying and will break their promises/do nothing,” it’s like betting on the sun to rise.
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His political spin is mostly dishonest but standard fare, it’s the covid misinformation that gets people killed that is really gross.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods]
#27573317 - 12/08/21 08:09 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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When your brand is “everyone in power is always lying” and half your audience is anti vaxxers, that’s a hard needle to thread.
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Apparently you missed what he said at 4mins... and 15mins. Completely voiding your accusation of claiming the drug cures covid. The scientists wouldn't be able to win without the drug... the drug was a necessity to win the Nobel Peace Prize. So it really depends on your personal word choices.
You seem to forget he's a comedian, a lot of what he says are jokes and sarcasm. It's really not his or Joe Rogan's responsibility stupid people self medicated with Ivermectin bought from the wrong place and not prescribed by their doctor so they are most likely to be taking the wrong dosage. That's a personal education issue. In no video did either of them advertise buying Ivermectin from anywhere other than being prescribed from a doctor.
I can't comment on the Tokyo Medical Association. I googled it myself, but I have yet to hear what Jimmy 'actually' said. Wasn't in the video you posted and if it was, my apologies. Send me the time stamp(roughly) and I'd be happy to comment.
By the way, medicine for animals and humans are the exact same composition. Where the danger lies is dosages. That's why advertising a certain medicine as only used for animals such as "horse paste" is indeed misinformation.
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Again, the scientists who worked on ivermectin did not win a nobel peace prize. You missed christoperas point by a mile.
There are nobel prizes in every life science category, engineering, physics, literature etc. and then the nobel peace prize.
The point christopera was trying to make is that dore didnt know that the nobel peace prize isn't awarded to scientific discoveries, it's awarded to people and organizations with a lot of cultural influence.
As stated above the prize was awarded in physiology. Not peace.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: natedawgnow]
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Jimmy even compared the scientists’ prize to Obamas Peace prize. Hilarious and sad how bad Jimmy missed the boat.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: natedawgnow]
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natedawgnow said: Again, the scientists who worked on ivermectin did not win a nobel peace prize. You missed christoperas point by a mile.
There are nobel prizes in every life science category, engineering, physics, literature etc. and then the nobel peace prize.
The point christopera was trying to make is that dore didnt know that the nobel peace prize isn't awarded to scientific discoveries, it's awarded to people and organizations with a lot of cultural influence.
As stated above the prize was awarded in physiology. Not peace.
Omg really dude. Lmfao funny I read this link and still wrote 'Peace'. https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2015/press-release/
Huge end of the world fuck up to confuse the two. That means everything is automatically wrong.
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Since youre just a rando on the internet the fuck up is inconsequential.
But since dore carries on as a knowledgeable guy worth listening to and following, it speaks to his ethos and how he may not be as trustworthy a source as some seem to think.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: natedawgnow]
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natedawgnow said: Since youre just a rando on the internet the fuck up is inconsequential.
But since dore carries on as a knowledgeable guy worth listening to and following, it speaks to his ethos and how he may not be as trustworthy a source as some seem to think.
That's a great point although I'm not sure he actually carries to be knowledgeable or worth listening to when he says he's a jack off comedian in his garage nearly every video lol. To each their own.
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He's a conspiracy nutter and a really bad comedian . His YouTube channel looks like a knockoff of the Natl Enquirer .
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natedawgnow said: Again, the scientists who worked on ivermectin did not win a nobel peace prize. You missed christoperas point by a mile.
There are nobel prizes in every life science category, engineering, physics, literature etc. and then the nobel peace prize.
The point christopera was trying to make is that dore didnt know that the nobel peace prize isn't awarded to scientific discoveries, it's awarded to people and organizations with a lot of cultural influence.
As stated above the prize was awarded in physiology. Not peace.
Omg really dude. Lmfao funny I read this link and still wrote 'Peace'. https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2015/press-release/
Huge end of the world fuck up to confuse the two. That means everything is automatically wrong.
It means he plays fast and loose with the facts and you don’t care about facts either
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William C. Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura for their discoveries concerning a novel therapy against infections caused by roundworm parasites
William C. Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura discovered a new drug, Avermectin, the derivatives of which have radically lowered the incidence of River Blindness and Lymphatic Filariasis, as well as showing efficacy against an expanding number of other parasitic diseases.
People are literally dying because they are listening to assholes like Dore promoting a drug that is used to treat parasitic worms instead of getting actual treatments and the vaccine. It’s fucking sick that he makes money doing it.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods]
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koods said: People are literally dying because they are listening to assholes like Dore promoting a drug that is used to treat parasitic worms instead of getting actual treatments and the vaccine. It’s fucking sick that he makes money doing it.
He's not responsible when he said two times in that video posted above(probably all his videos in relation) that he is not promoting that Ivermectin treats covid. Those people using Ivermectin not prescribed by their doctors clearly didn't actually listen to Dore.
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He definitely promoted it and then he lied about it . Dude is a piece of shit .
https://mobile.twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1450845453667471368?s=20
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: Psilynut2]
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He's on Dexter's to do list.
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natedawgnow said: Since youre just a rando on the internet the fuck up is inconsequential.
But since dore carries on as a knowledgeable guy worth listening to and following, it speaks to his ethos and how he may not be as trustworthy a source as some seem to think.
That's a great point although I'm not sure he actually carries to be knowledgeable or worth listening to when he says he's a jack off comedian in his garage nearly every video lol. To each their own.
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r3volution.gurl said:
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natedawgnow said: Since youre just a rando on the internet the fuck up is inconsequential.
But since dore carries on as a knowledgeable guy worth listening to and following, it speaks to his ethos and how he may not be as trustworthy a source as some seem to think.
That's a great point although I'm not sure he actually carries to be knowledgeable or worth listening to when he says he's a jack off comedian in his garage nearly every video lol. To each their own.
So maybe stop acting like people pointing out that he’s an ignorant comedian is an affront to god 
Um I'm not? Wth lmfao. There were some good points brought up and others in the beginning not so much.
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Dore is just one of the countless grifters who realized that “pwning the libs” is like crack for the trump cult, they’ll click and click and click and pay the bills on Jimmy’s multi million dollar mansion and fancy toys
It’s pretty disgusting, it seems like at a certain point they start falling for their own grift almost as a sort of self defense mechanism. If they actually allowed any introspection or even reality into their brains they’d be overwhelmed by how much of a piece of shit they were, better to just give in and fully morph into the internally numb yet outwardly constantly enraged lib pwner
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: feevers]
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Being full of misdirected anger is better than being empty.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: Kryptos]
#27573909 - 12/08/21 06:18 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not when the misdirected anger is based on disease and vaccine misinformation .
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#27574087 - 12/08/21 09:04 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Geez. Whod've thought this thread would get so serious. I'm from the UK so Dore doesn't mean a lot to me. I watched the first 1m 30s of that video from Christopera's post and I thought - bullshit! Sorry r3volution.gurl.
You certainly raised an interesting point of discussion, but it would seem most shroomers see through the obvious act. As a self-professed comedian, how are we to take anything he says seriously?
Staged bullshit puppet.
(I've watched a few other videos with him, just to get a feel, and my sentiment hasn't changed)
Hype over authenticity. (Sometimes you just get a feel, you know?)
Thank you for bringing it to our attention r3volution.gurl.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: MindScaper]
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MindScaper said: Geez. Whod've thought this thread would get so serious. I'm from the UK so Dore doesn't mean a lot to me. I watched the first 1m 30s of that video from Christopera's post and I thought - bullshit! Sorry r3volution.gurl.
You certainly raised an interesting point of discussion, but it would seem most shroomers see through the obvious act. As a self-professed comedian, how are we to take anything he says seriously?
Staged bullshit puppet.
(I've watched a few other videos with him, just to get a feel, and my sentiment hasn't changed)
Hype over authenticity. (Sometimes you just get a feel, you know?)
Thank you for bringing it to our attention r3volution.gurl.
That's a good point and I respect your opinion. Fortunately, I don't get medical advice from a comedian.
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If people are watching ANYONE AT ALL and taking what they say at face value without a little research or questioning, that says a whole lot more about the audience than the host. I’m not concerned with people listening to him and preaching like it’s fact because those people are too stupid to bother me anyway.
In the end, anyone on tv, YouTube or any other kind of spotlight, is there for at least a little bit of attention. No matter what side they’re on. In my eyes, they’re all a bunch of talking heads that think you need to hear their opinion. It doesn’t matter if you’re defending these people or dissing them to no end, it’s foolish.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: SporeJunkie]
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SporeJunkie said: If people are watching ANYONE AT ALL and taking what they say at face value without a little research or questioning, that says a whole lot more about the audience than the host. I’m not concerned with people listening to him and preaching like it’s fact because those people are too stupid to bother me anyway.
In the end, anyone on tv, YouTube or any other kind of spotlight, is there for at least a little bit of attention. No matter what side they’re on. In my eyes, they’re all a bunch of talking heads that think you need to hear their opinion. It doesn’t matter if you’re defending these people or dissing them to no end, it’s foolish.
I agree, I do feel foolish. I think me defending him was because of the personal connection in the past. Still though, he is a talking head at the end of the day and I've always done my own research and will never find anyone with the exact same opinions. It just doesn't exist. Neither does perfectionism either.
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More like, Jimmy Bore.
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“I don’t believe anything he says it’s just entertainment.”
This seems to be a common refrain. Why not just enjoy some entertainment from people NOT being wrong and stupid? Or at the very least, get your kicks from something apolitical and wholly brash like fucking Cum Town? It’s because these people do, whether consciously or not, believe things Dore says, and writing it off as just jokes is a way to dismiss criticism. “Oh no, you see, YOU are the one taking it seriously, I’m immune to propaganda.”
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I agree. I watch the vids people post with him and handle about 10secs to a minute and then I just have to turn it off.
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The "it's just jokes! Haha! HA!" Line has been used by edgy teenagers and hate groups for eternity.
Why do you think the KKK names their leaders wizards and dragons?
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: Kryptos]
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Agreed. These people are manipulative and subversive.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said: The "it's just jokes! Haha! HA!" Line has been used by edgy teenagers and hate groups for eternity.
Why do you think the KKK names their leaders wizards and dragons?
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods] 4
#27827205 - 06/19/22 11:54 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Here's a great video showing how idiots from The Young Turks, The Humanist Report, and The Majority Report falsely attacked Jimmy Dore as favoring Republicans.
Many people here sadly fell for it.
https://twitter.com/stfushitlib/status/1537461181182578688
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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I don’t believe the dude is dumb enough to believe in what he’s actually saying. It’s just that he likely depends on his audience believing in it so that he can make a living off of being associated with “the right or “the left” or conservative or liberal or rep / dem or what have you.
It’s easier for people to attach to a false dualistic narrative like that because it allows them to judge complex situations quickly rather than use their brains to carefully think about each and every new situation that they become aware of.
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It’s easier for people to attach to a false dualistic narrative like that because it allows them to judge complex situations quickly rather than use their brains to carefully think about each and every new situation that they become aware of.

I doubt you’ve watched many of his videos.
He makes a lot of sense a lot of the time.
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He’s a shithead that sells to people that eat his shit. His takes are tired and designed to sell just like many others.
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He’s a good laugh and smokes buds while he points out stupid shit, I don’t see the reason for all the hate?
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christopera said: He’s a shithead that sells to people that eat his shit. His takes are tired and designed to sell just like many others.
Do you have an example, or just insults? Jimmy Dore is pretty good at backing up what he says with evidence.
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Sure, Jimmy plays a character that is a progressive but he pushes basically right wings views. A critique of the left, from the left, that is his schtick. This is why he is popular with people like you. Do you remember when he supported Asad? How about his position on Roe V Wade? Do you remember that Jimmy started his show on the Young Turks network?
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I guess the idiots from the Young Turks were good enough Jimmy, why not you? Jimmy loved Obama, then decided he hated Obama, then started selling nonsense about Obama. Jimmy incorrectly claimed Obama sits on the board of Netflix, a right wing smear job because he was being critical of Obama for profiteering off of left wing comedy sold by Netlix. But of course Obama never sat on the board, it was just make believe.
More recently, Jimmy has peddled all sorts of COVID malarkey. He promoted a graphic that was an edited piece of information, then got nervous because he was pushing a blatant lie, so he backed up on it. He posted a semi retraction blaming his producer but basically failed to admit they were posting stuff that was a lie. He then fake fired a non existence producer to regain some integrity, which again, the person did not work on the show they just made that person up and fake fired them. I assume he was worried about getting demonetized so he had to really be careful.
The list goes on and on. As shitheads go, Jimmy knows how to do it.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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I moved fal's link over here, because it starts out about Jimmy. It moves on to how Fox News and Tucker Carlson is critical of big business (lol). Then Russel transistions to hating on Hillary Clinton because she was warning people about a loss of Democracy. Then Jimmy parades himself on Tucker's show and goes on and on about how he's a lefty that is there on Fox to show the world how corrupt the left is, meanwhile he's saying Harris can't speak in sentences (ironic considering Trump).
Notably, even Russel Brand likes Jimmy Dore. Who cares? Russel isn't actually saying anything in the video, as usual, he is just blabbing on. At best he strings together "democratic party" "critical" "Hillary Clinton" "mainstream media" in a manner that stokes his base. There is no real underlying thesis or fact base discussion.
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#27831517 - 06/22/22 10:03 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Hmm, seems like you're really obsessed with Jimmy Dore. He must really rustle your jimmies..
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LOL, wut? He don't push any right wing views, you should watch him sometime.
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You mean he supported the democratically elected Government of Syria when the US teamed up with the radicals to try and regime change him? That didn't work out very well for the Syrian people did it? And since when is regime change of an elected Government a left wing view?
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christopera said: How about his position on Roe V Wade?
Can you elaborate? Jimmy Dore clearly supports abortion rights. He criticized the left for not doing enough to protect it.
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I guess the idiots from the Young Turks were good enough Jimmy, why not you?
I remember. The Young Turks have become an establishment network that promotes whatever the establishment wants, much like you do. Jimmy Dore is smarter than that.
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So did anyone who was a true leftist. Obama became pro-war, pro-corporation, anti-regular person. You must have missed all the discussions here about that.
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I couldn't find anything about that in a Google search. Are you sure you saw it on Jimmy Dore, or were you reading some fake news about it?
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Why the "lol"? Several videos have previously been posted here showing this to be true.
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There have been COUNTLESS posts about how corrupt Hillary Clinton is. Smart people get it, dumb people say "but the mainstream media tells me I'm supposed to like Hillary if I'm a leftist, and I'm a leftist!"
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He’s the archetype right wing grifter. Used to be a lefty, pretends he still is while spouting right wing talking points. $$$.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods] 2
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Did you guys forget. Anybody who is not a radical leftist is now right-wing. Get with the times
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: chopstick]
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I thought you guys liked it when someone gets red pilled
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I'm not going to go through that point for point because obviously you haven't been paying attention. No big deal, but you are missing various points. There is a lot of content and it is hard to keep up with. That's not your fault, not my fault, it is just the way it is.
RT is no less fallible than any other source. I don't get why you think they are super human reporters.
Jimmy took pro Assad money and changed his stance. There is evidence of this from tax records and time lines. As for RvW, Jimmy has been absolutely silent. Hilarious that a lefty would do that, hilarious that you made up a position he hasn't presented. You took the bait though.
The establishment, blah, blah, blah. For fucks sake, stop it. You going to post a tweet with video from 1996 to prove how anti establishment you are?
As for Jimmy and Obama, you didn't watch it. Not your fault, but Jimmy is all over the fucking place. On one hand he loves the guy, on the other he hates him. It's okay to change position, but Jimmy isn't consistent on why he loves or hates.
Tucker Carlson sucks, you need to come to the light. The dude is playing a centrist that is an actual authoritarian nut job policy wise. He spent a week in Hungary bragging about the place. Take a look into that.
Hillary hasn't been in office for like 6(?) years. Move on. That Jimmy brings her up, that you are obsessed, is just dumb. She isn't even working towards a new position, no rallies, nothing. The butthurt is unreal and she was never president.
Jimmy Dore is a character acting left, but not really caring about progressive values. A progressive or even a rational person no matter political leaning would say the war in Ukraine is wrong. No matter the actors, no matter the reasons, the poorest country in Europe is getting steam rolled for the sake of advancing Russian imperialism.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods]
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LOL, wut? He don't push any right wing views, you should watch him sometime.
He’s the archetype right wing grifter.
Got any specific examples?
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"pro Assad money"? Lol, and which donor exactly is considered pro-assad money?
RvW is a states rights issue, it's fine not to exacerbate the hysteria surrounding it. Or maybe he just doesn't care about it?
Obama had a lot of people fooled during his presidency, but now it is clear he is a corrupt PoS.
Your criticism of Tucker leaves something to be desired. He spoke positively of Hungary so that makes him bad? Really?
Hillary still involves herself with politics, so as long as she does this there is nothing wrong with talking about her. Not to mention the fact that her level of corruption is gigantic - she should be called out on that as often as necessary.
Ukraine - how many times do I have to say this. Russia invaded because the US turned Ukraine into an anti-Russia that they wanted to get into NATO. If this had happened it would have guaranteed ww3. Legitimate cases of self defense does not equate to imperialism.
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christopera said: RT is no less fallible than any other source. I don't get why you think they are super human reporters.
I'm sure they're fallible. Yet no one can find any fake news from them. 
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That's a lie. He didn't change his position because of this. Jimmy took money from a group that knew the Douma chemical attacks was a false flag operation, and supported Jimmy for helping expose this. Watch the obvious lies from the establishment about this if you're really interested in the story.
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christopera said: As for RvW, Jimmy has been absolutely silent. Hilarious that a lefty would do that, hilarious that you made up a position he hasn't presented. You took the bait though.
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christopera said: You going to post a tweet with video from 1996 to prove how anti establishment you are?
What video? This is at least the fifth time I'm asking.
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christopera said: As for Jimmy and Obama, you didn't watch it. Not your fault, but Jimmy is all over the fucking place. On one hand he loves the guy, on the other he hates him. It's okay to change position, but Jimmy isn't consistent on why he loves or hates.
No, Jimmy consistently hates Obama. He only liked him before he was elected, until most of us found out he was just an establishment hack.
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I agree he sucks. Except on the points that he doesn't suck on. You don't seem to understand that people can take bad positions and smart positions at the same time.
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christopera said: Jimmy Dore is a character acting left, but not really caring about progressive values. A progressive or even a rational person no matter political leaning would say the war in Ukraine is wrong. No matter the actors, no matter the reasons, the poorest country in Europe is getting steam rolled for the sake of advancing Russian imperialism.
But he IS saying the war is wrong. Biden is the one saying we need to keep arming Ukraine so they keep fighting Russia for us. He's happy to help Ukrainians get slaughtered.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods]
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LOL, wut? He don't push any right wing views, you should watch him sometime.
He’s the archetype right wing grifter.
Got any specific examples?
Seriously?
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LOL, wut? He don't push any right wing views, you should watch him sometime.
He’s the archetype right wing grifter. Used to be a lefty, pretends he still is while spouting right wing talking points. $$$.
Also see: Glenn Greenwald
A so called “lefty” who will spend all day criticizing the left for everything makes conservatives jizz in their pants. Conservative women will grow a penis and jizz in their pants. They love it. They throw money at it.
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Seriously?
Yes. And I see another smartass remark instead of an example.
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koods said: A so called “lefty” who will spend all day criticizing the left...
The establishment left deserves criticism, but you swallow anything the mainstrem news asks you to.
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Perhaps it’s your definitions of those two designations that explains why you’re confused.
You think Biden has a radical leftist agenda, for example, because your narrow worldview means that Democrats continuing all of Trump’s policies is indicative of radical leftism, rather than accepting that both right wing parties have wrought nearly identical political failures.
You make like 50 posts a day in the political sub but have you ever explained why you’re a conservative?
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Yes. And I see another smartass remark instead of an example.
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The establishment left deserves criticism, but you swallow anything the mainstrem news asks you to. 
What the fuck is your problem? I put an example in my original post and youre acting like it doesn’t exist. It’s these kinds of bullshit debating tactics that has turned this community against you.
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I just revisited this entire thread and couldn't find the example you were referring to. Did you mean this?
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"It’s these kinds of bullshit debating tactics that has turned this community against you."
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Jimmy fired a fake person to cover his ass.
Jimmy acts anti war, but he said people should have voted republican and for Trump if they wanted to stop war. Meanwhile Trump killed more people via drone strikes in 7 months than Obama did in 8 years. Keep in mind I think Obama should be tried for war crimes due to those those drone strikes.
https://theconversation.com/under-the-trump-administration-us-airstrikes-are-killing-more-civilians-85154
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This rhetoric is tiresome. Jimmy is dumb, he needs to go away. The idea that Trump is anti war is sadly one of the worst lies in history.
I will leave on this note. I was actually wrong in saying Jimmy was silent on RvW. He wasn't. Years ago he claimed a Republican president wouldn't stack the court and overturn RvW. He said something along of the lines of "there's a better chance of the moon falling into lake Michigan."
Great work, Jim.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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I'm personally embarrassed that Jimmy Dore is also originally from the Southwest side of Chicago.
I don't think he has actual beliefs. He shifts based on which way the wind is blowing. Also, he's a dork.
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The biggest issue I have with Dore and his acolytes is that they think that if the extremely slim minority of progressives in Congress just did [their idea du jour] that we would have Medicare for all, or some other progressive item.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of how power works. Even if progressives had a majority in Congress it wouldn’t happen. But Dore needs to shit on the left more than the right because that’s where his money comes from.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: Yeatster]
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Says the guy ignored by 31 member of this community

There are a lot of snowflakes on this site
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The Ecstatic said: The biggest issue I have with Dore and his acolytes is that they think that if the extremely slim minority of progressives in Congress just did [their idea du jour] that we would have Medicare for all, or some other progressive item.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of how power works. Even if progressives had a majority in Congress it wouldn’t happen. But Dore needs to shit on the left more than the right because that’s where his money comes from.
I'm just curious why you think that wouldn't lead to some progressive outcomes. It's just theoretical to me because I can't envision a progressive majority because of the tyranny of the small states, and I don't think we'll hit a critical mass of progressive sentiment in the population. This country is just not equipped to achieve class consciousness. But certainly in Europe they have had moderate socialist governments who socialized vital industries till they got booted out a term or two later. Is the hegemony of capital too strong here compared to Europe where they occasional had some victories?
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: Brian Jones]
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I think it’s the culture, and the relationship between labor and capital there, but I’ve yet to see a Democrat majority in my lifetime (mid 30s) that has yielded anything progressive, especially something that turns a multi trillion dollar industry on its head like M4A.
But Jimmy (ostensibly) thinks if Pramila Jayapal and Bernie Sanders pull the right levers and hit the right procedural cheat codes then we could have it, because he thinks that’s how Republican minorities get their way. But the obvious fact is that Republican minorities get their way because their interests align with global capital. Simple as that.
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christopera said: Jimmy fired a fake person to cover his ass.
That person edited content and gave it Jimmy Dore. Jimmy apologized. Mainstream sources make far more errors than Jimmy Dore, and you don't seem to mind for some reason.
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Trump tried to end the war, and was blocked by Congress. We discussed this already.
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Trump is more anti-war than the democratic establishment; that's the point.
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Brian Jones said: I'm personally embarrassed that Jimmy Dore is also originally from the Southwest side of Chicago.
I don't think he has actual beliefs. He shifts based on which way the wind is blowing.
Example(s)?
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This is a fundamental misunderstanding of how power works. Even if progressives had a majority in Congress it wouldn’t happen. But Dore needs to shit on the left more than the right because that’s where his money comes from.
I don't know if he believes that or not. But he believes progressives should at least be trying. Would you disagree?
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He also believes the cia is funding a program to attack him . Have you seen that episode ?
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Wasn’t he pushing ivermectin and trashing vaccines?
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Wasn’t he pushing ivermectin and trashing vaccines?
Ya like Rogan .
He used to push 911 conspiracies too , it's basically the same as the Alex Jones show , a little less crazy maybe . It's hard for me to even call it a show , all he does is read a power point of grievances in front of a green screen .
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This is a fundamental misunderstanding of how power works. Even if progressives had a majority in Congress it wouldn’t happen. But Dore needs to shit on the left more than the right because that’s where his money comes from.
I don't know if he believes that or not. But he believes progressives should at least be trying. Would you disagree?
Who says they aren’t? When you’re a tiny minority in Congress, all you can do is make concessions in order to push tiny bits of progress, like Bernie did with amendments. But Dore expects 4/535ths of Congress (with a tenably popular agenda to begin with) to wage war on their own party in order to make them look like the hypocrites everyone already implicitly acknowledges that they are.
It’s no different than the liberal playbook of “we will expose the right as hypocrites and then, logically, the people will come to our side.” Not only is this a proven strategic failure, but compound that with the sheer weight of the status quo bearing down on you. The ruling class would more readily accept a Trump-inspired right wing coup in 2024 than they would a people-powered movement for something like M4A.
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Perhaps it’s your definitions of those two designations that explains why you’re confused.
You think Biden has a radical leftist agenda, for example, because your narrow worldview means that Democrats continuing all of Trump’s policies is indicative of radical leftism, rather than accepting that both right wing parties have wrought nearly identical political failures.
You make like 50 posts a day in the political sub but have you ever explained why you’re a conservative?
Biden's admin has set out an energy plan that seeks to remove oil & gas almost entirely by 2035. This is the opposite of what Trump was doing. For a short time the US was energy independent.
I'm not a big fan of the government whether it's controlled by a Democrat or a Republican, but at the very least it would help to have someone in charge that is at-least a) less of a neocon/neoliberal and b) decent for the economy.
I don't know what definition you want me to use for the Democratic party. Yes I could call them right-wing but at the same time they still push policies that could be considered left-wing, such as gun control, immigration, bigger gov spending, green energy, online speech "regulation", and so on. There are clear differences in foreign policy between the Trump-wing of the Republican party and Democrats. You might consider these differences minor but they do exist and to me they are a big deal.
I'm more closely aligned with libertarianism than I am with actual conservatism. I haven't actually joined any political party or made any contributions to any politician other than Tulsi Gabbard, because I believed she legitimately wanted to seriously change our foreign policy, but she was destroyed by the DNC machine.
What I will actually do is still up in the air. I have plenty of views that a lot of conservatives won't agree with, and I have spiritual beliefs that would be accepted by hardly anybody. I would have preferred a third party that could usurp the dominance of both Democrats and Republicans, but how realistic is this?
Unfortunately it is the Republican party which stands the best chance to fight against the policies being pushed by Biden & his allies in Congress. I have accepted that if I ever do get involved with politics then I may have to join forces with conservatives. As much as you might disagree, Trump proved that the Republican party could be semi-reformed in a more positive direction, in comparison to say how it was during the Bush years. It's still far from perfect and there are plenty of establishment hacks in the Republican party, but it's a start.
The Democratic party on the other hand is not redeemable or reformable, unless a miracle happens. In any case, you have to understand the situation - America is transitioning from the unquestioned post-ww2 and post-soviet collapse era of dominance and imperialism to becoming a "normal" country in a multipolar world where power is shared globally. It is a very dangerous time for our nation with lunatics in charge whom are desperate to cling onto former imperial dominance. Biden and his Neocons are pushing us towards ww3 to prevent this, there is no question about it. If their rule continues they might just get their wish. At this point anybody who isn't willing to push in that direction would be a major improvement.
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christopera said: Jimmy fired a fake person to cover his ass.
That person edited content and gave it Jimmy Dore. Jimmy apologized. Mainstream sources make far more errors than Jimmy Dore, and you don't seem to mind for some reason.
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christopera said: Jimmy acts anti war, but he said people should have voted republican and for Trump if they wanted to stop war. Meanwhile Trump killed more people via drone strikes in 7 months than Obama did in 8 years.
Trump tried to end the war, and was blocked by Congress. We discussed this already.
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Trump is more anti-war than the democratic establishment; that's the point.
There is no evidence the "fired" person existed. His producer has always been his wife and himself.
Again, Trump killed more via drones in 7 months than Obama did in 8 years, and Trump did it with Republican majorities. Anti war? That's not how that works.
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Mainstream sources make far more errors than Jimmy Dore, and you don't seem to mind for some reason.
Bullshit
Here’s Dore platforming an antivax grifter who claims he invented the mRNA vaccine technology, which he didn’t.
This is disinformation and it got a lot of people who believed it killed
Anyone who platformed Robert Malone is bottom feeding scum
300,000 Americans died because they didn’t get vaccinated when the vaccines became available. Jimmy Dore participated in that genocide
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Trump tried to end the war, and was blocked by Congress. We discussed this already.
Trump could have ended the war with the stroke of a pen. He didn't need Congress.
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Again, Trump killed more via drones in 7 months than Obama did in 8 years, and Trump did it with Republican majorities. Anti war? That's not how that works.
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Trump tried to end the war, and was blocked by Congress. We discussed this already.
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Trump tried to end the war, and was blocked by Congress. We discussed this already.
Lol what war? There was no war in the Middle East. There was a police action that was started, maintained, and could have been ended by presidential decree.
Biden ended the war in 2021. Trump could have, but did nothing.
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Trump sent ground troops to Syria. How is that anti war?
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Trump tried to pull out of Syria, but pussied out when Congress and the media teamed up to attack him in an overwhelming display of rage and indignance.
His only mistake was bowing to the pressure, but to rewrite history to suit your personal bias is prettttty dumb, though not unexpected from you
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He’s the one who sent troops to Syria.
The fact is he didn’t do fuck all to reduce our presence over seas. There were just as many troops in Afghanistan’s when he left than when he got there, in addition to the troops he left in Syria and the ones he deployed to Saudi Arabia.
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Don't forget the Niger, man. Trump lied, four soldiers died.
Like, what the fuck was that patrol doing there? And did you see that one 24 year old marine that had to dead sprint for nearly a mile only to get pinned down under a tree and shot to death? He wasn't even supposed to be there, we didn't have a war, or a peacekeeping mission, or anything.
Trump just sent him in because...He's such a peaceful guy, I guess.
Just, getting US soldiers shot outside of warzones, so peacefully.
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And the disastrous Yemen raid less than a week into his presidency.
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Oh yes the horrible things that happened in Niger.
Pretty sure the US always has troops in Africa at all times and no president has ever withdrawn at any point. I mean, to withdraw from Africa means the end of the empire for good. No more control over precious resources.
The worst thing Trump did was assassinate Soleimani. Luckily, it did not result in a war. This still pales in comparison to the horror that is Biden's proxy war in Ukraine.
Not only that, but Hillary wanted a no fly zone that would have meant war with Syria and Russia. We already coulda been nuked. Thank your lucky stars she didn't make it in!
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Trump saying anti war things proves he’s anti war.
Trump doing the same war things as every other president doesn’t matter because that’s what all presidents do.
Conclusion: trump is different, anti-war
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I like how we're doing this rhetoric about whether it was a "war" or not. We never declared war on Viet Nam. I looked up this ridiculousness. It said when you talk about Vietnam you either have to not capitalize war (War) or call it a "conflict". Everybody knows we invaded Vietnam and had a war with Vietnam. At that time, we originally called it a police action.
So, if the world is still around several decades from now does anybody think it's not going to be a war that Russia started with Ukraine by invading them, or a special military operation.
A few decades have a way of showing bullshit rhetoric for what it is.
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After all these "conflicts" i think the reasonable members of the population are willing to call any of these invasions, conflicts, whatever, acts of "war."
Of course official lines from governments may be different, however unreasonable. I mean there are people here that believe Russia is saving the day in Ukraine by blowing the place up. Many of those people also think Trump ended US wars when in fact he failed to do that. Jimmy Dore laughably parading himself around as one such individual.
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At this point, I don't even know what difference actually declaring war means.
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War declaration means the president doesn't need to redeclare emergency police actions every like, 60 days I think? Although I think Congress loosened those laws in 2003.
Also, I get this odd feeling we're about to enter a time of Schrodinger's War: We're gonna have right wingers saying Biden selling weapons to Ukraine is an act of proxy war, but Putin's invasion of Ukraine is a peaceful special military operation and not a war at all.
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Biden giving weapons to Ukraine absolutely is the act of waging proxy war against Russia. It's a full blown proxy war with no end in sight and unpredictable consequences for us.
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The Ecstatic said: Trump saying anti war things proves he’s anti war.
Trump doing the same war things as every other president doesn’t matter because that’s what all presidents do.
Conclusion: trump is different, anti-war
He is not as bad as Biden, Obama or as bad as Hillary would have been if she had been president.
Trump is a dumbass and surrounded himself with Neocons during his tenure (John bolton anyone?) but so long as he is not a neocon himself, it's still an improvement. Even a small improvement is big when it comes to foreign policy, which desperately needs to change if we want to have a future. It is by far the most important issue that our country will ever face. And that is why I will always value it more highly than any other issue.
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Okay, so "an act of waging proxy war" is not actually a thing. And it is not illegal to sell weapons, the US is the biggest exporter of weapons in the world.
Biden is the most peaceful president since Clinton.
Because we're not actually in a state of conflict for the first time since Clinton.
You can go cry about it and invent crazy hypotheticals about Hillary to avoid the fact that Trump was, in fact, a useless sack of shit who did nothing but expand US involvement in wars. And you know what, you're also right. Maybe he was anti war, but just happened to be so spineless that he folded like a cheap suit when Bolton walked in the room. Which, yeah, I mean, dude's mustache alone probably had bigger balls than Trump.
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He ended up firing John Bolton. If he had folded to the demands of those people he would have started several new wars on their behalf.
The point is that Trump completely fails to surround himself with legitimate allies almost every single time. He is terrible at picking the right people for the job. This is a major weakness for him. Obama gave us a war in Libya, Syria, Ukraine, and Yemen. Hillary wanted to expand the war in Syria and declare a no fly zone, which would have meant war with Russia at the same time. Biden took the war Obama started in Ukraine and escalated it dramatically.
So yes, he is a significant improvement over all three. There is nothing he has done that compares to the mass death and destruction that is unleashed every time we get a Neocon puppet in the whitehouse.
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The Ecstatic said: Trump saying anti war things proves he’s anti war.
Trump doing the same war things as every other president doesn’t matter because that’s what all presidents do.
Conclusion: trump is different, anti-war
He is not as bad as Biden, Obama or as bad as Hillary would have been if she had been president.
Trump is a dumbass and surrounded himself with Neocons during his tenure (John bolton anyone?) but so long as he is not a neocon himself, it's still an improvement. Even a small improvement is big when it comes to foreign policy, which desperately needs to change if we want to have a future. It is by far the most important issue that our country will ever face. And that is why I will always value it more highly than any other issue.
What does it matter what the figurehead says during a campaign rally?
Biden is on his way to Riyadh right now to kiss the feet of the royal family he campaigned on turning into a pariah. Trump’s policy didn’t match his rhetoric either, nor Obama’s nor Clinton’s nor Bush’s. So rather than try to make some arbitrary distinction between the red liars and the blue liars, why not just accept that both parties are liars and that our imperialist foreign policy isn’t decided by democratic will? It’s very simple.
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christopera said: I mean there are people here that believe Russia is saving the day in Ukraine by blowing the place up.
Not just here, but in Eastern Ukraine as well (and that's where it really matters).
A French journalist went into Lysychansk (right next to Severodonetsk) and spoke with the locals about the expected Russian takeover of their city. Here's what the jounalist said (note this was in French, and the text below is my browser's translation):
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That article says 15,000 residents remain in the city and they are mostly supporters of Russia. That’s about 15% of the prewar population. 80,000 residents ran for their lives when Russia invaded.
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The residents were told to evacuate the city.
And even the LA Times wrote about how the city is pro-Russian.
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Jimmy Dore? Yeah, I know Jimmy Dore.
The son of a bitch fucked my wife!
He’s not as good looking as me, probably doesn’t have as much money as I do, but my goddamn wife still slept with him. Goddamn bitch broke my heart. Claims she was star struck. I could sort of understand it if she had cheated on me with a movie star, but this fucking guy? Jimmy fucking Dore. Anyway, me and my old lady are in counseling and trying to work through it for the sake of our kids. Fuck Jimmy Dore!
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And even the LA Times wrote about how the city is pro-Russian.
No they wrote that the remaining population is pro-Russian.
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96.2%
You actually believe that? Jesus Christ dude. 96.2% of a highly self selected group of voters. Sorta like the ones who didn’t flee because of the Russian invasion. The pro Ukrainians skipped that vote and they skipped town when the war started
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I went to Crimea and determined for certain that 96% of them wanted to rejoin Russia.
But you don't have to take my word for it. Numerous polls of the Crimean people confirmed the same.
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Even if you talked to every single person in Crimea you wouldn’t be able to determine for certain if 96% of them wanted to rejoin Russia.
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I went to Crimea a few months ago and proved for certain that Fal was lying- https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27705481#27705481
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Again, neither of you have to take my word for it, there were numerous polls done that validate the number, which are accurate to within a few percent.
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Wasn't the discussion regarding Lysychansk?
Seems like redirecting things to your vacation in Crimea allows you to ignore the criticism of your disingenuous framing of "with the population in Lysychansk dwindling to fewer than 15,000 people from a high of more than 100,000 before the war, those who have remained are likely to have pro-Russia leanings" as "the city is pro-Russian."
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Seems like redirecting things to your vacation in Crimea allows you to ignore the criticism of your disingenuous framing of "with the population in Lysychansk dwindling to fewer than 15,000 people from a high of more than 100,000 before the war, those who have remained are likely to have pro-Russia leanings" as "the city is pro-Russian."
Yes, it started with Lysychansk, and I explained that "Lysychansk is part of Luhansk, where 96.2% voted to separate from Ukraine in 2014."
I got the usual retard response from koods "I don't believe 96%", so I explained how I knew it was valid in Crimea.
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Explaining how you "knew" it was valid in Crimea doesn't explain how you know it was valid in Luhansk.
Furthermore, Lysychansk is part of Luhansk Oblast, but not part of the Luhansk Peoples Republic, so (even if the vote is considered legitimate) the city never participated in that vote, and using it to deflect from koods criticism that "they wrote that the remaining population is pro-Russian" is a display of either deception or ignorance on your part.
Answer to your disingenuous framing directly. Why did you phrase "with the population in Lysychansk dwindling to fewer than 15,000 people from a high of more than 100,000 before the war, those who have remained are likely to have pro-Russia leanings" as "the city is pro-Russian"?
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What we know is that the majority of the 15,000 current Lysychansk residents are pro-Russia. If you have evidence of the percentage that were pro-Russia before the evacuation, you should share it.
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43 million in Ukraine.
1 million marched when they didn’t join the EU.
You are are worried about 15,000. Russia should have sent busses and passports.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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christopera said: 43 million in Ukraine.
1 million marched when they didn’t join the EU.
You are are worried about 15,000. Russia should have sent busses and passports.
I'm 'worried' about your claim that a majority of Ukrainians supported the coup. I think by now we can all accept that was a lie.
As for the people of Lysychansk, I think they should decide their own destiny.
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At least, the 10% still remaining in the city after the Russian military violently took control
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The Ecstatic said: Even if you talked to every single person in Crimea you wouldn’t be able to determine for certain if 96% of them wanted to rejoin Russia.
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feevers said: I went to Crimea a few months ago and proved for certain that Fal was lying- https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27705481#27705481
Again, neither of you have to take my word for it, there were numerous polls done that validate the number, which are accurate to within a few percent.
Even assuming the polls are accurate (not to mention assuming the polls represent an accurate sentiment) “within a few percent” is not absolute certainty.
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Those residents said they were for Russia.
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The ironic part is, most of the evacuated residents of Lisichansk probably went to Russia.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainians_in_Russia
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: there were numerous polls done that validate the number, which are accurate to within a few percent.
Even assuming the polls are accurate (not to mention assuming the polls represent an accurate sentiment) “within a few percent” is not absolute certainty.
It's close enough to certainty. Especially when numerous polls show the same thing. Even Robert Parry confirmed US polling showed the same (watch Ukraine on Fire from 1:06:47-1:07:17).
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Those residents said they were for Russia.
There's still a significant difference between 'the city is pro-Russian' vs 'the remaining population of the city is pro-Russian'.
I'm more interested in your inclusion of Lysychansk in a referendum held by the LPR. Was this error a result of ignorance or deception?
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shivas.wisdom said: There's still a significant difference between 'the city is pro-Russian' vs 'the remaining population of the city is pro-Russian'.
I'm interested in how why you think the city used to be pro-Ukrainian.
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shivas.wisdom said: I'm more interested in your inclusion of Lysychansk in a referendum held by the LPR. Was this error a result of ignorance or deception?
Ignorance. Are you happy to show I don't know 100% of everything in the world? Well I don't; I just know a little more than most people here.
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Where are the 1 million pro Russian agreement people marching?
Did that never happen?
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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People were marching in Donbas, Crimea, and Odessa. It's all in the Ukraine on Fire documentary.
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Ignorance. Are you happy to show I don't know 100% of everything in the world? Well I don't; I just know a little more than most people here.
It's indicative of your confirmation bias, wherein claims that conform to your pro-Russian prejudice don't get challenged before you accept them as fact.
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Jimmy Dore? Boy oh fucking boy, do I know Jimmy Dore.
He’s the asshole who fucked my wife!
That was about three months ago. Me and the missus have been in counseling ever since. I thought things were going good, but I happened to look at her phone the other day, and guess what? Text after goddamn text between my wife and, yep, Jimmy fucking Dore. I’m going to rip this little asshole’s head off once I get ahold of him.
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I'll say again, "the majority of the 15,000 current Lysychansk residents are pro-Russia. If you have evidence of the percentage that were pro-Russia before the evacuation, you should share it."
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: People were marching in Donbas, Crimea, and Odessa. It's all in the Ukraine on Fire documentary.
1 million?
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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The question was whether a majority of Ukrainians favored a coup of their elected leader. Not how many people showed up to rallies.
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So less than the pro EU people?
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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I don't know the numbers, but 3 new news channels went live in Ukraine in November 2013, all pushing people to the Kiev protests. John McCain, Victoria Nuland, and others from the US also pushed people to protests (plenty of evidence of this).
The United States was PISSED that Ukraine took the better energy deal from Russia for its people, and decided Yanukovych had to go, because what's important is a better deal for the West, not Ukraine.
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Yanukovych also declined when Obama asked him if he was willing to join NATO, I believe this happened in 2012.
Yep, he had to go. Wasn't willing to join NATO and wasn't willing to sell his people out to hurt Russia. And so now here we are.
It's too bad, though, that he was a spineless coward. If he hadn't fled and had tried to maintain control over the country, things might have turned out differently. It would have been bloody, sure, but it ended up being bloody anyway.
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The United States was PISSED that Ukraine took the better energy deal from Russia for its people, and decided Yanukovych had to go, because what's important is a better deal for the West, not Ukraine.
The old conspiracy theory in place of talking about evidence you don't like approach. Do you think they wouldn't have protested if they didn't want to protest? Is it like the people of Donbas not protesting?
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: chopstick]
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chopstick said: Yanukovych also declined when Obama asked him if he was willing to join NATO, I believe this happened in 2012.
Yep, he had to go. Wasn't willing to join NATO and wasn't willing to sell his people out to hurt Russia. And so now here we are.
It's too bad, though, that he was a spineless coward. If he hadn't fled and had tried to maintain control over the country, things might have turned out differently. It would have been bloody, sure, but it ended up being bloody anyway.
Yep, he was a spineless coward and people marched and rioted as a result.
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christopera said: The old conspiracy theory in place of talking about evidence you don't like approach. Do you think they wouldn't have protested if they didn't want to protest? Is it like the people of Donbas not protesting?
I explained why so many showed up to the rally's despite having minority support of the population.
If you don't understand how pushing people to the rallies with extended tv coverage of important people from the US increases attendance, then...
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Pushing them to rally for something they don't support?
That's a nice conspiracy theory.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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christopera said: Yep, he was a spineless coward and people marched and rioted as a result.

A minority of Ukrainians, but they did march and riot.
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christopera said: Pushing them to rally for something they don't support?
That's a nice conspiracy theory.
Here we go again.
DURRR, let's make believe Fal is dumb so I can make believe I'm smart.
No, they tv ads got people who already wanted a stronger Western relationship to come to the rallies.
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Even if true, so what? Why does a free speech warrior like yourself have a problem with opinionated news channels?
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Your argument is that the tv made people protest.
Did you ever consider that they wanted to be there?
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christopera said: Pushing them to rally for something they don't support?
That's a nice conspiracy theory.
Here we go again.
DURRR, let's make believe Fal is dumb so I can make believe I'm smart.
No, they tv ads got people who already wanted a stronger Western relationship to come to the rallies.
So what? How is that even controversial?
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If you don't understand how pushing people to the rallies with extended tv coverage of important people from the US increases attendance, then...
I’m sure the attention and high profile support did increase attendance. The question remains: so what?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I don't know the numbers, but 3 new news channels went live in Ukraine in November 2013, all pushing people to the Kiev protests. John McCain, Victoria Nuland, and others from the US also pushed people to protests (plenty of evidence of this).
Even if true, so what? Why does a free speech warrior like yourself have a problem with opinionated news channels?
I was just explaining to christopera why so many people came out to the rallies, even though it was a minority opinion.
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Did you ever consider that they wanted to be there?
I'm answering your question why a minority had more people show up to rallies than the majority.
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christopera said: Your argument is that the tv made people protest.
Did you ever consider that they wanted to be there?
I'm answering your question why a minority had more people show up to rallies than the majority.
No, you are presenting a hypothesis. One that isn't well supported because TV's rarely make people do things they don't want to do.
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Without authority figures on tv asking others to show up to the rallies, they may not even know about the rallies.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I don't know the numbers, but 3 new news channels went live in Ukraine in November 2013, all pushing people to the Kiev protests. John McCain, Victoria Nuland, and others from the US also pushed people to protests (plenty of evidence of this).
Even if true, so what? Why does a free speech warrior like yourself have a problem with opinionated news channels?
I was just explaining to christopera why so many people came out to the rallies, even though it was a minority opinion.
Or there were so many because the movement had popular support. Doesn’t that same poll showing 45% support for the protests also show less than 10% support for yanukovitch? He was a massively unpopular leader.
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Sounds about right.
I went to gay pride in Baltimore yesterday and I’m 100% sure I wouldn’t have known about it if nobody bothered to get the word out about when and where it was happening.
Your seriously complaining that people were trying to get as many protesters on the streets as possible?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Without authority figures on tv asking others to show up to the rallies, they may not even know about the rallies. 
A hypothesis you can’t really prove in this case. You can’t prove there were no opposition authorities. You can’t prove people went because there were authorities. It’s just speculation.
What we do know, those people went there because they decided to go there.
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Sure... lol I beg to differ.
People take all kinds of orders from their television and don't even realize it.
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Humans are psychotic. We are so mimetically infested by our own argumentative bullshit that we cannot even remotely suggest agreement on things that are worded differently though mean the same thing.
We are so collectively arrogant and self righteous that the world will burn around us while we cannot agree on who gets to let it burn.
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koods said: I agree with falcon that rallies tend to not be well attended if they aren’t publicized.
Me too.
However, Fal has no proof pro Russian agreement rallies weren't well publicized. Just pure speculation. That there were 3 new news stations is proof of nothing, maybe in Ukraine they get 10 new news stations a year. Who knows? Maybe those new stations were pro Russia? Who knows? Maybe all of the existing stations were saying "don't go to the rally, we are pro Russia", and then people said "Fuck you we are pro EU and went to the rally." It's all speculation.
The proof we do have? Pro Russian agreement rallies weren't much of a thing. Pro EU rallies, pretty big. 1/44th of the population showed up in one city when a Russian agreement was announced. When was the last time the US had a rally with 7 million people (1/44th the population)?
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Sure... lol I beg to differ.
People take all kinds of orders from their television and don't even realize it.
You aren't psychotic so you do take orders from your TV?
Or are you just smarter than the rest of us?
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: Faustoid]
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Faustoid said: Humans are psychotic. We are so mimetically infested by our own argumentative bullshit that we cannot even remotely suggest agreement on things that are worded differently though mean the same thing.
We are so collectively arrogant and self righteous that the world will burn around us while we cannot agree on who gets to let it burn.
Yeah true!
I believe it to be more ignorance than psychotic though, but you're not wrong to use that word when we actually think about the big picture of how we are actively destroying our environment and what we are doing about it collectively.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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koods said: Unless you are actively psychotic, you’re not taking marching orders from your TV
Sure... lol I beg to differ.
People take all kinds of orders from their television and don't even realize it.
You aren't psychotic so you do take orders from your TV?
Or are you just smarter than the rest of us?
The point made was 'unless you're psychotic, you don't take orders from television'.
I don't think I'm smarter, I'm aware of psychological warfare and much less ignorant regarding world issues and solutions than majority of people, but that has nothing to do with the current conversation.
I just believe it's ignorant to think people don't take orders from their televisions and the pandemic is a prime example of that. Lots of people didn't want to stay home etc., but they did for a better future.. what falcon is explaining is similar to that in regards to people wanting a better future and when television taps into that psychologically, people will follow.
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We can narrow it down in the context of the discussion.
Do you think there were television programs that told people be be pro EU and they rallied, maybe rioted, they didn't consider the implications, they just did it because there was TV coverage.
Or do we think they went there and rallied, maybe rioted, likely understood potential and hopeful implications, and did so on their own volition?
The body of knowledge clearly points to the latter being the case for the vast majority. Some make believe about people getting brainwashed into rallying, maybe rioting, for a pro EU cause when in fact they all wanted a pro Russian decision is absolutely fucking retarded. Gaslighting at its worst.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera] 1
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christopera said: We can narrow it down in the context of the discussion.
Do you think there were television programs that told people be be pro EU and they rallied, maybe rioted, they didn't consider the implications, they just did it because there was TV coverage.
Or do we think they went there and rallied, maybe rioted, likely understood potential and hopeful implications, and did so on their own volition?
The body of knowledge clearly points to the latter being the case for the vast majority. Some make believe about people getting brainwashed into rallying, maybe rioting, for a pro EU cause when in fact they all wanted a pro Russian decision is absolutely fucking retarded. Gaslighting at its worst.
Both those questions could answer true simultaneously. We can only speculate. I don't know each and every individual to answer that personally.
People have multiple reasons to participate or support a cause. I can guarantee not every single person at those rallies were on the same page being pro EU.
Brainwashing isn't make believe and people support causes or positions they later regret all the time(unlikely to ever admit to it though). I'm not saying this is the case here, but it's not wise to be ignorant to that fact.
Television programming is one of the most powerful brainwashing tools.
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Precisely. We can only speculate.
However, we know that pro EU marches were massive and followed directly a pro Russian agreement from the existing government. The timeline is very clear.
Now I am no Sherlock Holmes, but what do we think the body evidence suggests? Do we think the 3 new news stations instantly created enough publicity to stir a rally, later a riot, that was pro EU? Or do we think people were just pissed off and went and marched and later rioted?
Which is the more simple answer? The probable answer?
Meanwhile, the pro Russian agreement marches hardly materialized. Did the TV not have pro Russian material in a State that just decided to be pro Russian agreement?
Suspicious for sure.
Also, I never said brainwashing was make believe. I said the notion that the TV brainwashed people into rallying/marching/rioting/ for a pro EU agreement was make believe. There is probably some level of creep on that, variability. I won't deny that people do things because they see things on TV, but did it influence hundreds of thousands to march when there was very little pro Russian agreement marchers? A shaky dishonest proposition, gaslighting really.
I do agree that being aware of media influence, to some degree a subtle form of brain washing, it should be considered. I just don't think it was a reasonable influence in this specific case. The body of evidence says as much.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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Lots of people didn't want to stay home etc., but they did for a better future.
Wtf does that have to do with a TV
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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I think the main problem with falcon’s premise is that the antigovernment faction was much larger than the faction that supported the government.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods]
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Lots of people didn't want to stay home etc., but they did for a better future.
Wtf does that have to do with a TV
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Seriously? That's like the simplest connection to make koods. TV told people to stay home... people listened.
@christopera
I understand your point of view and yes, what you're saying is the more simple answer. We can sherlock Holmes all day and night and still never know the exact true answer to this because each individual is different despite believing they are for the same cause. I'm not trying to argue with you when I write this, I just want to add that people also like to hop on bandwagons especially when it has television publicity.
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The government told people to stay home
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koods said: The government told people to stay home
Yeah through the TV.
Why argue something so dumb for the sake of arguing.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Without authority figures on tv asking others to show up to the rallies, they may not even know about the rallies. 
Sounds about right.
Your seriously complaining that people were trying to get as many protesters on the streets as possible?
No, I'm not complaining. I was explaining.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Without authority figures on tv asking others to show up to the rallies, they may not even know about the rallies. 
A hypothesis you can’t really prove in this case.
People aren't able to know things without being told. Even koods understands this.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
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christopera said: Meanwhile, the pro Russian agreement marches hardly materialized. Did the TV not have pro Russian material in a State that just decided to be pro Russian agreement?
At the time, Russia wasn't trying to topple the democratically elected government like the US was. Remember, Ukraine made a deal for cheaper energy from Russia in exchange for extending the lease on the Sevastopol Naval Base. Some Ukrainians were upset, but the US was very upset.
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I don’t recall any rallies full of upset Americans
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koods said: I don’t recall any rallies full of upset Americans
I think he means US government..
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koods said: I don’t recall any rallies full of upset Americans
I think he means US government..
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koods said: No shit
r3volution gurl is correct.
Koods, how many rallies of upset Government folks have you witnessed?
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What action did the US take to do so?
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koods said: The government told people to stay home
Yeah through the TV.
Why argue something so dumb for the sake of arguing.
That pretty well proves my point.
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koods said: I don’t recall any rallies full of upset Americans
I think he means US government..
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r3volution gurl is correct.
Koods, how many rallies of upset Government folks have you witnessed?
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