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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera] 2
#27831032 - 06/21/22 09:33 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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christopera said: He’s a shithead that sells to people that eat his shit. His takes are tired and designed to sell just like many others.
Do you have an example, or just insults? Jimmy Dore is pretty good at backing up what he says with evidence.
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Sure, Jimmy plays a character that is a progressive but he pushes basically right wings views. A critique of the left, from the left, that is his schtick. This is why he is popular with people like you. Do you remember when he supported Asad? How about his position on Roe V Wade? Do you remember that Jimmy started his show on the Young Turks network?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Here's a great video showing how idiots from The Young Turks
I guess the idiots from the Young Turks were good enough Jimmy, why not you? Jimmy loved Obama, then decided he hated Obama, then started selling nonsense about Obama. Jimmy incorrectly claimed Obama sits on the board of Netflix, a right wing smear job because he was being critical of Obama for profiteering off of left wing comedy sold by Netlix. But of course Obama never sat on the board, it was just make believe.
More recently, Jimmy has peddled all sorts of COVID malarkey. He promoted a graphic that was an edited piece of information, then got nervous because he was pushing a blatant lie, so he backed up on it. He posted a semi retraction blaming his producer but basically failed to admit they were posting stuff that was a lie. He then fake fired a non existence producer to regain some integrity, which again, the person did not work on the show they just made that person up and fake fired them. I assume he was worried about getting demonetized so he had to really be careful.
The list goes on and on. As shitheads go, Jimmy knows how to do it.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera]
#27831290 - 06/22/22 05:54 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I moved fal's link over here, because it starts out about Jimmy. It moves on to how Fox News and Tucker Carlson is critical of big business (lol). Then Russel transistions to hating on Hillary Clinton because she was warning people about a loss of Democracy. Then Jimmy parades himself on Tucker's show and goes on and on about how he's a lefty that is there on Fox to show the world how corrupt the left is, meanwhile he's saying Harris can't speak in sentences (ironic considering Trump).
Notably, even Russel Brand likes Jimmy Dore. Who cares? Russel isn't actually saying anything in the video, as usual, he is just blabbing on. At best he strings together "democratic party" "critical" "Hillary Clinton" "mainstream media" in a manner that stokes his base. There is no real underlying thesis or fact base discussion.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera] 3
#27831517 - 06/22/22 10:03 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Hmm, seems like you're really obsessed with Jimmy Dore. He must really rustle your jimmies..
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: chopstick] 3
#27831604 - 06/22/22 11:07 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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christopera said: Sure, Jimmy plays a character that is a progressive but he pushes basically right wings views.
LOL, wut? He don't push any right wing views, you should watch him sometime.
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christopera said: Do you remember when he supported Asad?
You mean he supported the democratically elected Government of Syria when the US teamed up with the radicals to try and regime change him? That didn't work out very well for the Syrian people did it? And since when is regime change of an elected Government a left wing view?
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christopera said: How about his position on Roe V Wade?
Can you elaborate? Jimmy Dore clearly supports abortion rights. He criticized the left for not doing enough to protect it.
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christopera said: Do you remember that Jimmy started his show on the Young Turks network?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Here's a great video showing how idiots from The Young Turks
I guess the idiots from the Young Turks were good enough Jimmy, why not you?
I remember. The Young Turks have become an establishment network that promotes whatever the establishment wants, much like you do. Jimmy Dore is smarter than that.
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christopera said: Jimmy loved Obama, then decided he hated Obama
So did anyone who was a true leftist. Obama became pro-war, pro-corporation, anti-regular person. You must have missed all the discussions here about that.
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christopera said: Jimmy incorrectly claimed Obama sits on the board of Netflix, a right wing smear job because he was being critical of Obama for profiteering off of left wing comedy sold by Netlix. But of course Obama never sat on the board, it was just make believe.
I couldn't find anything about that in a Google search. Are you sure you saw it on Jimmy Dore, or were you reading some fake news about it?
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christopera said: I moved fal's link over here, because it starts out about Jimmy. It moves on to how Fox News and Tucker Carlson is critical of big business (lol).
Why the "lol"? Several videos have previously been posted here showing this to be true.
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christopera said: Then Russel transistions to hating on Hillary Clinton because she was warning people about a loss of Democracy. Then Jimmy parades himself on Tucker's show and goes on and on about how he's a lefty that is there on Fox to show the world how corrupt the left is, meanwhile he's saying Harris can't speak in sentences (ironic considering Trump).
There have been COUNTLESS posts about how corrupt Hillary Clinton is. Smart people get it, dumb people say "but the mainstream media tells me I'm supposed to like Hillary if I'm a leftist, and I'm a leftist!"
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LOL, wut? He don't push any right wing views, you should watch him sometime.
He’s the archetype right wing grifter. Used to be a lefty, pretends he still is while spouting right wing talking points. $$$.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods] 2
#27831618 - 06/22/22 11:30 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Did you guys forget. Anybody who is not a radical leftist is now right-wing. Get with the times
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: chopstick]
#27831619 - 06/22/22 11:32 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I thought you guys liked it when someone gets red pilled
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I'm not going to go through that point for point because obviously you haven't been paying attention. No big deal, but you are missing various points. There is a lot of content and it is hard to keep up with. That's not your fault, not my fault, it is just the way it is.
RT is no less fallible than any other source. I don't get why you think they are super human reporters.
Jimmy took pro Assad money and changed his stance. There is evidence of this from tax records and time lines. As for RvW, Jimmy has been absolutely silent. Hilarious that a lefty would do that, hilarious that you made up a position he hasn't presented. You took the bait though.
The establishment, blah, blah, blah. For fucks sake, stop it. You going to post a tweet with video from 1996 to prove how anti establishment you are?
As for Jimmy and Obama, you didn't watch it. Not your fault, but Jimmy is all over the fucking place. On one hand he loves the guy, on the other he hates him. It's okay to change position, but Jimmy isn't consistent on why he loves or hates.
Tucker Carlson sucks, you need to come to the light. The dude is playing a centrist that is an actual authoritarian nut job policy wise. He spent a week in Hungary bragging about the place. Take a look into that.
Hillary hasn't been in office for like 6(?) years. Move on. That Jimmy brings her up, that you are obsessed, is just dumb. She isn't even working towards a new position, no rallies, nothing. The butthurt is unreal and she was never president.
Jimmy Dore is a character acting left, but not really caring about progressive values. A progressive or even a rational person no matter political leaning would say the war in Ukraine is wrong. No matter the actors, no matter the reasons, the poorest country in Europe is getting steam rolled for the sake of advancing Russian imperialism.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods]
#27831641 - 06/22/22 12:07 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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LOL, wut? He don't push any right wing views, you should watch him sometime.
He’s the archetype right wing grifter.
Got any specific examples?
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera] 2
#27831656 - 06/22/22 12:14 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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"pro Assad money"? Lol, and which donor exactly is considered pro-assad money?
RvW is a states rights issue, it's fine not to exacerbate the hysteria surrounding it. Or maybe he just doesn't care about it?
Obama had a lot of people fooled during his presidency, but now it is clear he is a corrupt PoS.
Your criticism of Tucker leaves something to be desired. He spoke positively of Hungary so that makes him bad? Really?
Hillary still involves herself with politics, so as long as she does this there is nothing wrong with talking about her. Not to mention the fact that her level of corruption is gigantic - she should be called out on that as often as necessary.
Ukraine - how many times do I have to say this. Russia invaded because the US turned Ukraine into an anti-Russia that they wanted to get into NATO. If this had happened it would have guaranteed ww3. Legitimate cases of self defense does not equate to imperialism.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: christopera] 2
#27831678 - 06/22/22 12:32 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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christopera said: RT is no less fallible than any other source. I don't get why you think they are super human reporters.
I'm sure they're fallible. Yet no one can find any fake news from them. 
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christopera said: Jimmy took pro Assad money and changed his stance. There is evidence of this from tax records and time lines.
That's a lie. He didn't change his position because of this. Jimmy took money from a group that knew the Douma chemical attacks was a false flag operation, and supported Jimmy for helping expose this. Watch the obvious lies from the establishment about this if you're really interested in the story.
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christopera said: As for RvW, Jimmy has been absolutely silent. Hilarious that a lefty would do that, hilarious that you made up a position he hasn't presented. You took the bait though.
Another lie:
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christopera said: You going to post a tweet with video from 1996 to prove how anti establishment you are?
What video? This is at least the fifth time I'm asking.
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christopera said: As for Jimmy and Obama, you didn't watch it. Not your fault, but Jimmy is all over the fucking place. On one hand he loves the guy, on the other he hates him. It's okay to change position, but Jimmy isn't consistent on why he loves or hates.
No, Jimmy consistently hates Obama. He only liked him before he was elected, until most of us found out he was just an establishment hack.
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christopera said: Tucker Carlson sucks, you need to come to the light.
I agree he sucks. Except on the points that he doesn't suck on. You don't seem to understand that people can take bad positions and smart positions at the same time.
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christopera said: Jimmy Dore is a character acting left, but not really caring about progressive values. A progressive or even a rational person no matter political leaning would say the war in Ukraine is wrong. No matter the actors, no matter the reasons, the poorest country in Europe is getting steam rolled for the sake of advancing Russian imperialism.
But he IS saying the war is wrong. Biden is the one saying we need to keep arming Ukraine so they keep fighting Russia for us. He's happy to help Ukrainians get slaughtered.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods]
#27831683 - 06/22/22 12:37 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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LOL, wut? He don't push any right wing views, you should watch him sometime.
He’s the archetype right wing grifter.
Got any specific examples?
Seriously?
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LOL, wut? He don't push any right wing views, you should watch him sometime.
He’s the archetype right wing grifter. Used to be a lefty, pretends he still is while spouting right wing talking points. $$$.
Also see: Glenn Greenwald
A so called “lefty” who will spend all day criticizing the left for everything makes conservatives jizz in their pants. Conservative women will grow a penis and jizz in their pants. They love it. They throw money at it.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods] 2
#27831705 - 06/22/22 12:50 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Got any specific examples?
Seriously?
Yes. And I see another smartass remark instead of an example.
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koods said: A so called “lefty” who will spend all day criticizing the left...
The establishment left deserves criticism, but you swallow anything the mainstrem news asks you to.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: Enlil]
#27831711 - 06/22/22 12:55 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Weed addicts
Dunno what you're talking about officer? You'll have to take my word for it but that was from me last week.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: chopstick] 1
#27831732 - 06/22/22 01:07 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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chopstick said: Did you guys forget. Anybody who is not a radical leftist is now right-wing. Get with the times
Perhaps it’s your definitions of those two designations that explains why you’re confused.
You think Biden has a radical leftist agenda, for example, because your narrow worldview means that Democrats continuing all of Trump’s policies is indicative of radical leftism, rather than accepting that both right wing parties have wrought nearly identical political failures.
You make like 50 posts a day in the political sub but have you ever explained why you’re a conservative?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Got any specific examples?
Seriously?
Yes. And I see another smartass remark instead of an example.
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koods said: A so called “lefty” who will spend all day criticizing the left...
The establishment left deserves criticism, but you swallow anything the mainstrem news asks you to. 
What the fuck is your problem? I put an example in my original post and youre acting like it doesn’t exist. It’s these kinds of bullshit debating tactics that has turned this community against you.
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Re: Anybody know Jimmy Dore? [Re: koods] 1
#27831867 - 06/22/22 02:55 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I just revisited this entire thread and couldn't find the example you were referring to. Did you mean this?
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"It’s these kinds of bullshit debating tactics that has turned this community against you."
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Jimmy fired a fake person to cover his ass.
Jimmy acts anti war, but he said people should have voted republican and for Trump if they wanted to stop war. Meanwhile Trump killed more people via drone strikes in 7 months than Obama did in 8 years. Keep in mind I think Obama should be tried for war crimes due to those those drone strikes.
https://theconversation.com/under-the-trump-administration-us-airstrikes-are-killing-more-civilians-85154
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According to research from the nonprofit monitoring group Airwars, the first seven months of the Trump administration have already resulted in more civilian deaths than under the entirety of the Obama administration. Airwars reports that under Obama’s leadership, the fight against IS led to approximately 2,300 to 3,400 civilian deaths. Through the first seven months of the Trump administration, they estimate that coalition air strikes have killed between 2,800 and 4,500 civilians.
This rhetoric is tiresome. Jimmy is dumb, he needs to go away. The idea that Trump is anti war is sadly one of the worst lies in history.
I will leave on this note. I was actually wrong in saying Jimmy was silent on RvW. He wasn't. Years ago he claimed a Republican president wouldn't stack the court and overturn RvW. He said something along of the lines of "there's a better chance of the moon falling into lake Michigan."
Great work, Jim.
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