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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: Land Trout] * 1
    #27531436 - 11/05/21 02:56 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: Holybullshit]
    #27531481 - 11/05/21 03:30 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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So the "highly addictive psychedelic" is just MDMA...?

It's deadly because of the PMMA, but I don't think you are becoming addicted to PMMA as it is killing you.



Maybe if you think MDMA is particularly psychedelic...

PMMA is very addictive, but among seasoned users seeking MDMA it may not be enjoyed. To the random user who just wants to get a buzz on it will sell.

The problem with PMMA is redosing along with overheating and dehydration. An actual mix of the two would contraindict and may cause exacerbation of side-effects.


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: schmutzen] * 2
    #27531610 - 11/05/21 04:46 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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What if I say no and everything goes haywire?



I can relate. This is how I started using drugs, I was afraid things would go haywire if I said no.
Now, after all these years, I'm afraid everything will go haywire if I stop using drugs.

So I'll keep on using, I'm not taking any chances.


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: Failboat]
    #27531611 - 11/05/21 04:47 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Wtf is pmma?


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: mushboy]
    #27531668 - 11/05/21 05:33 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Para-methoxy-methamphetamine


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: durian_2008]
    #27533254 - 11/07/21 03:44 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Fitting the description of a brownish-red powder in clear pill caps...
https://www.thejournal.ie/kinsale-deaths-mdma-pmma-592161-Sep2012/




Its not 2012 anymore. There are many brown powders. PMA/PMMA kills people


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: veggie]
    #27533264 - 11/07/21 04:12 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

The fuck is a highly addictive psychedelic drug? I've never felt addicted to anything that was psychedelic before. Maybe they're adding something addictive to it, which sounds extremely bad and unwanted to me, because everytime I've used a psychedelic, I had no interest whatsoever in any sort of addiction that I blindly satisfied, like tobacco, or one that I wanted to kick, like heroin. Hopefully they never add fentanyl to a drug that gets sold to kids... Those dealers would surely all be facing life sentences without parole for introducing fentanyl to kids... or another one of those random chemicals like JWH-018 that could easily be ordered online years ago. It wouldn't be good to go through yet another "spice" epidemic and have more fatalities because of a failed drug war.  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:  :beatadeadhorse:


If most drugs were legal, people would have enough legal drugs to try that doing any illegal drug would be suicidal. The illegal drug wouldn't be measured or tested for impurities, making overdose and being harmed by other unwanted substances/chemicals found in it highly likely to occur. It seems as though all discussions similar to this one point to the same solution: to legalize drugs. It is those people who are unhealthy that are causing the delay.


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: thirtygoats]
    #27533360 - 11/07/21 06:46 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

It's probably pma/pmma, or bunk moley cut with dope, lame sas cut with dope, dope with 2C, bk with some DOC, methylonee with ketamine, butylone with DMX. I mean really it could be anything or any combination.


Kinda the only downfall of being so spoiled as this drug generation is, everyone freaking out over what it could be ha. People just used to take whatever. I don't think the real problem is what it is. But that it is, and how people are handling it.

Sas is a highly addictive psychedelic, as well as MDMA I suppose tho less visual. And I'm sure their are others.


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: Failboat]
    #27533434 - 11/07/21 08:03 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Quirkmeister92 said:
Quote:

Holybullshit said:
So the "highly addictive psychedelic" is just MDMA...?

It's deadly because of the PMMA, but I don't think you are becoming addicted to PMMA as it is killing you.



Maybe if you think MDMA is particularly psychedelic...

PMMA is very addictive, but among seasoned users seeking MDMA it may not be enjoyed. To the random user who just wants to get a buzz on it will sell.

The problem with PMMA is redosing along with overheating and dehydration. An actual mix of the two would contraindict and may cause exacerbation of side-effects.




I'm not the one who called it a psychedelic...whether it is or not doesn't change whether that's what they were referring to. But I definitely don't expect your average soccer mom to understand the nuance between PEA's/substituted amphetamine's and tryptamines/lysergamides.

And I don't think that's right, concerning PMMA...on it's own I don't think it is something anyone would seek out(other than a desperate polydrug addict), let alone repeatedly, it's definitely not "moreish", it's not a stimulant, it's not euphoric, it's barely empathogenic at all.

It's a weak serotonin releaser and MAOI, but without MDMA it isn't euphoric or much of an enactogen. It just happens to effect the hypothalamus(overheating) quite strongly. It's more like a toxic SSRI in is action than a substituted amphetamine. But it's MAOI action can boost MDMA's effects so it can be used to stretch your precursor, or it can be used to add some enactogen action to pills that actually contain methamphetamine(or something else).

There is absolutely nothing about it that says "addictive". Maybe some people find low doses of it pleasant on its own...but that doesn't make it addictive. And if you push the dosage trying to get stronger effects...it will become unpleasant in no time.

There is a reason why you rarely see PMMA as a sole active ingredient...and when you do see pills with only PMMA as the active ingredient it gets real dangerous, real fast as people keep pushing the dosage hoping to get some actual effects.

But for teenagers, with their under developed pre-frontal cortices combined with how overwhelmingly amazing MDMA can be...I would consider it addictive "enough", especially from a parents perspective. No you aren't going to become dependent on it, no you aren't(generally) going to develop a daily habit, but that doesn't mean some kids won't be itching to roll every chance they get, that they won't make it priority #1 every weekend. Especially if they are at risk or pre-disposed, or had been struggling and are using it as a form of escape.

And that pattern of use, at that stage of their development, both biologically and psychologically, generally won't end well for them.


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: Holybullshit]
    #27533545 - 11/07/21 09:42 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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A PEA or(less likely) one of the psychadelic amphetamines...if there is any truth to this at all, it could be totally bogus, just hearsay...or it could be perfectly non-addictive and relatively harmless psychadelic, getting painted with the default brush of the drug war since they don't know what it is.

I'm just wondering how they know the drug is highly addictive without even knowing what it is...it's not like kids are having withdrawals after 1 dose(no drug dose that).

Maybe they are confusing highly fun with highly addictive? The kids say they liked it...so it must be HIGHLY ADDICTIVE.





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durian_2008 said:


Fitting the description of a brownish-red powder in clear pill caps...
https://www.thejournal.ie/kinsale-deaths-mdma-pmma-592161-Sep2012/



Quote:

viraldrome said:
Its not 2012 anymore. There are many brown powders. PMA/PMMA kills people




Until we know better, PAINT kills people. Don't take candy from strangers.

Some of these shops have bootleg-looking, dollar-store-quality products with cartoon characters, made in shithole countries. tfw you see tacky booze in fluorescent colors. It would have to be a vulnerable person, making that mistake.


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: durian_2008]
    #27533563 - 11/07/21 09:57 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not here to write a fucking memoir, but yeah the PMMA seemed to be in combination with MDMA, or at least was sold as MDMA, and it was crystal.

I'm glad people can read the internet, but if you dont have experience in the field...:rolleyes:


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: Failboat]
    #27533585 - 11/07/21 10:13 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

:peace: Newbies and parents, here, don't have experience in the field.


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: durian_2008]
    #27533595 - 11/07/21 10:21 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Right, that's why I gave my notes. Sorry I got frustrated, didn't sleep well doggone daylight savings time im all confused :rofl:

Anyway my point is just that PMMA is potentially lethal and some users will redose, and maybe that's also in part because it comes mixed into MDMA sometimes, but nonetheless.

One person said hey I don't think this stuff is right, help me test it. Another person said "I've been dping it all night, I like it, gets me fucked up, gonna do some more" despite the warning after a test.

Be Safe, Have Fun.:cheers:


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: Failboat]
    #27533601 - 11/07/21 10:25 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I def see myself writing redundantly, and poly drug abuse is a peev of mine, too. :heart:


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: Failboat]
    #27533618 - 11/07/21 10:42 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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gonna do some more



Also, re-dosing. :whathesaid:


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: durian_2008]
    #27533814 - 11/07/21 01:28 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

It's probably just rust they scraped off an old wheelbarrow and getting everybody hyped up over nothing.


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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: schmutzen] * 1
    #27533943 - 11/07/21 03:22 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

:hereyougo:
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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: Failboat] * 2
    #27533955 - 11/07/21 03:31 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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    #27533958 - 11/07/21 03:35 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: California school officials sound the alarm on highly addictive new psychedelic drug called 'PAINT' [Re: Failboat]
    #27534005 - 11/07/21 04:17 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

To the media anything is a psychedelic that makes a mofo see stars.

Kids are whacking themselves in the heads with psychedelic ball peen hammers.  :retawed:


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