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OfflineJazzMatazz
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HBWR LSA Extraction --> Questions
    #2752946 - 06/01/04 02:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I can get LSD from someone I know, but somehow it doesnt kick in as Id hope it would. I get really funny and have CEVs, but the promised colourful world is less than on my homegrown PCs...
I want to buy 30grams of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds and extract the Lysergic Amide with Petroleum Ether. Although the Manual I found was Labeled "Make your own LSD" i figure, that just extracting isnt gonna change the Amide to Acid, right? Still Ive got a few questions:

- What ist Petroleum Ether sold as?(Or do I really only need lemon juice?)

- If I only use Lemon Juice and throw away the "empty" seeds how much of the alkaloids will I be loosing. (In percent please, but only roughly)

- What is my extract going to look like? Will it be a liquid or more of a slushy solution?

- How should I dose my extract?

- Why do people get sick of them so often? Is it just cause they are alkaloids,or should I be safe if I extract the alkaloids and not ingest the skin?

- As I read that there are "real" and "false" Argyreia nervosa. The ones Im buying are (meant to be) from Ghana. Anyone tried them?

- Just read here that Morning Glory Seeds are more visual, is that true?

Thanks for the answers,
Jazz

Oh, and as you had time to read my questions, here?s a cheap place to get HBWR Seeds: www.cannapee.ch

P.S: I just read in another post, that ths recipie I got is from the Anarchist Cookbook. Please dont flame, as I honestly only want LOADS of LSA.

P.P.S: I know there are topics like this out there,but still: I posted different questions


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Re: HBWR LSA Extraction --> Questions [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #2753234 - 06/01/04 03:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

petroleum ether is sold as naphtha. Naphtha can be bought as lighter fluid at grocery stores and such, but it's usually not pure. In my experience, VM&P Naphtha(Varnish Maker's and Painter's Naphtha), which can be bought at the hardware store, is the purest and has the lowest boiling point; it's the best to use for extractions. If i was you, i'd just grind up the seeds into some yogurt or something and eat the yogurt, to just keep it simple. The look of the extract will be completely dependant on how pure you get it, though it will probably be just a brownish, sticky goo.


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Re: HBWR LSA Extraction --> Questions [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #2753316 - 06/01/04 04:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Don't bother using the method that involves the nonpolar solvent.


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Re: HBWR LSA Extraction --> Questions [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #2753380 - 06/01/04 04:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

you won't be making any LSD, but you will be extracing your own LSA.


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Re: HBWR LSA Extraction --> Questions [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #2753606 - 06/01/04 05:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I don't really see the point in doing an extraction of HBWR seeds. With MG seeds you're reducing the amount of material you have to ingest by a considerable amount, but you only need to eat around 7 HBWR seeds in the first place. IME, extractions do not reduce the nausea by much. If you were dissappointed with LSD, don't expect to be blown away by HBWR.


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Re: HBWR LSA Extraction --> Questions [Re: Gandhi]
    #2755864 - 06/02/04 06:10 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks Gandhi and SMoker For Peace for your answers.

But is Lemon Juice used to extract, or reduce the nausea?


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Re: HBWR LSA Extraction --> Questions [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #2755877 - 06/02/04 06:33 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

both, i believe


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Re: HBWR LSA Extraction --> Questions [Re: Locus]
    #2755976 - 06/02/04 08:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not sure about the naseau, but it would aid in extraction.


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Re: HBWR LSA Extraction --> Questions [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #2777022 - 06/09/04 05:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Extracting the LSA is fairly easy. Just grind the seeds into a powder and soak them in acetone, then strain off.


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Re: HBWR LSA Extraction --> Questions [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #2777046 - 06/09/04 06:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Lemon does reduce the nausea, works quite well actually, and helps the extraction...
Hope the trips pleases you, some people don't seem to like it, I do. Chances are you just had weak acid... It would be a pity you just let LSD down saying it's not powerfull enough...


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Re: HBWR LSA Extraction --> Questions [Re: JazzMatazz]
    #2779485 - 06/09/04 11:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

everyone has different experiences with lsa... mine have all been very wonderful and i hope yours is as intense as you need it to be.

lemon juice does help nausea, and if your looking to extract mounds of lsa for your friends and relatives, you would dose by how much seeds you use.  lets say you crush up 100 seeds... the extract leftover would be approx 10 doses, since its around 10 seeds for an experience.  you could safley make batches out of multiples of ten and when its done, just divy it up by the division of ten into the original amount.  good luck with whatever your plans are... peace and understanding are key.

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