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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Nillion]
#27737644 - 04/16/22 06:07 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Nillion said: Chlorophyll breaks down to an amber brown and often glows under UV. There are several things in plants that can be extracted easily and glow.
Mescaline in various forms does have excitation and emission spectra that are in the UV range. They are not typically visible to people because we do not see in the range that this occurs in.
However photometric detection of mescaline is a thing.
The basis of nearly all good detection methods is to have a reference sample, the real deal, to compare your extract to.
I have an open mind for this: To show the method working the sample needs to be next to mescaline and they both need to display the same distinct glow in a way that other things cannot be easily mistaken for.
Mescaline is the dominant alkaloid in T. bridgesii, some specimens have even been shown to have it and little else.
People have been eating and brewing the plant by boiling it for a very long time. Picking things out of the carpet may not be the way to go...
ok this is interesting, as when i was brewing i was kind of ocd stirring it, the brew was a very golden deep orange, almost a deep palomino color, im sure their was plenty of plant matter in it, but it was not glowing green or anything, it was amber orangish, also i slept while it evaped, so a lot of taffy stuff was on one side, on the other side was a crystal shards that stuck to the ceramic pot, far less of it was in this consistency compared to the gummy stuff, but both were equally potent. The gummy taffy stuff was like a sticky hash like thing that you can roll into balls easily, but shards were definitely crystalliney and glowed somewhat under UV.
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Beautiful photos Soloist!
I think everyone should look at the full moon while tripping! Truly incredible to watch, from start to finish. Those moonlight trips are magical.
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Nillion]
#27738899 - 04/17/22 03:05 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Nillion said: Mescaline is the dominant alkaloid in T. bridgesii, some specimens have even been shown to have it and little else.
But it also contains terpenes - aromatic hydrocarbons that are psychoactive. It contains some terpenes unique to this plant known as bridgesinins.
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
#27739288 - 04/17/22 07:42 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Grey Fox said: Beautiful photos Soloist!
I think everyone should look at the full moon while tripping! Truly incredible to watch, from start to finish. Those moonlight trips are magical.
Thank you! Iβm in the process of trying to shift everything in my life and make a living out of well, living.
I plan to use the phases of the moon as a template for my journeys when I finally get to that point.
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CreonAntigone said: But it also contains terpenes - aromatic hydrocarbons that are psychoactive. It contains some terpenes unique to this plant known as bridgesinins.
Bridgesigenins are not terpenes, they are triterpenes. Most living things actually produce triterpenes. Bridgesigenins are not know to be psychoactive. Kinoshita 1998 found them to be antinociceptive, meaning that they decreased response to pain induced by acetic acid.
Aspirin also does this.
The idea that they are psychoactive is questionable. They may be anti-inflammatory.
Bridgesii can have rather large amounts of mescaline and often has it in relatively pure form. I am not aware of people extracting the mescaline and then taking the cactus, it seems they take the cactus because of it, not in spite of it.
From the structure of them I doubt bridgesigenins A, B or C are bioavailable or can cross the brain blood barrier.
There are also flavonoid saponins in bridgesii, the same that are found in onion greens though, and nobody has come up with an onion and cactus tek yet.
PEA variations (phenylethylamine) with hydroxyl substitutions in place of methoxy groups, and with methyl groups on the amine and their cycled isoquinoline products are far better candidates for altered effects, but for the most part they aren't actually known from bridgesii. The peruvianus groups show that kind of variation, but the effect is not stronger.
Nobody has shown yet that there is anything to bridgesii being strong than the fact that it is consistently the strongest mescaline containing plant in the genus, and it is.
You likely know that the bridgesigenins are extremely similar to pachanols, if the former was responsible for bridgesii being stronger, why wouldn't the latter make pachanoi stronger? The answer is mescaline concentration.
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Bardy said: Nice story. Didnβt happen though. Mescaline doesnβt glow under UV.
Stop telling porkies.
Iβve done the proper extraction, it takes a lot more work than just slowly boiling down tea to get crystals.
I guess if you dried the tea extract right out itβs possible it might turn into a hard mass... but thatβs not what people call crystals.
no one here is talking about mescaline
I apologise, I was getting a bit semantic about the use of the word crystal
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Bardy]
#27756975 - 04/29/22 07:54 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Bridgesii pups popping up from the oregano.
These cacti are a great choice for permaculture. I would say that Trichocereus cacti are the perfect permaculture psychedelic to grow in warm enough climates, especially Bridgesii. They grow happily, year after year, always volunteering a few fallen columns here and there to replant or for tea. So easy and rewarding. And they have a presence to be around. Standing next to them in silence you can feel their energy. It feels like peace and calm.
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Nillion]
#27757019 - 04/29/22 08:43 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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You likely know that the bridgesigenins are extremely similar to pachanols, if the former was responsible for bridgesii being stronger, why wouldn't the latter make pachanoi stronger? The answer is mescaline concentration.
Pachanols are volatile organic solvents. They are terpenes. Since they are so reactive they'll no doubut interact with mescaline, which strongly hits adrenergic and serotinergic receptors.
We already know terpenes interact with mescaline. People say they take peppermint oil or lemon oil to stop the nausea - those are terpenes in the same class as pacahnols.
I am suggesting that these are unique terpenes that are a bit specially psychoactive. So pachanols will not be the same as bridgesinins, it will indicate their difference.
I am certain pachanol content matters even if mescaline content matters more. Compare two drinks with the same amount of mescaline, in one add pacahnols - I think this would prove me right.
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Well, I've taken the plunge. Ordered no name bridgesii. The ones with names were 100$ or greater. Crazy.
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GenericHero said: Well, I've taken the plunge. Ordered no name bridgesii. The ones with names were 100$ or greater. Crazy.
mail me your piss for research purposes if you plan on dosing it
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I expect something of equal volume and greater value in return.
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GenericHero said: I expect something of equal volume and greater value in return.
ill trade you a tetrahydrocannibiphorol vape pen in exchange for your mescaline piss
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I don't like digital smoking/vaping. I was thinking my cat might like some MDMA...
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GenericHero said: I don't like digital smoking/vaping. I was thinking my cat might like some MDMA...
jesus christ, i have stipulations, that shit is harmful, i would be a hypocrite for offering you harmful substance in exchange for a non harmful substance
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my vape pens have lab reports attached to them, i assure you they are non harmful, but if you want to exchange your piss for them, you will have to take it seriously, it would be for research purposes, do you have a crock pot? you would need to fast 24 hours prior and then dose, and collect your urine for the next 24 hours, you can drink juice during your trip
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You wouldn't be cooking this urine down would you?
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for ease of shipment, i would recommend you collect your urine for 24 hours, and slowly evaporate the water off of it with a crock pot on low, lid off, then mail me the contents
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I better get a good rating out of this...
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GenericHero said: I better get a good rating out of this...
as long as you follow protocol, i will publish all of the data from the experiment
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whenmistweeps said: for ease of shipment, i would recommend you collect your urine for 24 hours, and slowly evaporate the water off of it with a crock pot on low, lid off, then mail me the contents
I mean I get in the name of science and all but maaaaaaaaaannnnn I hope you have a garage or something to plug that bad boy in and not nestled between your toaster and microwaveβ¦.
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