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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: golmo]
#27709593 - 03/26/22 03:00 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Forgive me if this was already addressed in this long thread, but... which cultivar/variety of Bridgesii is recommended?
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Blue Cthulhu said: Forgive me if this was already addressed in this long thread, but... which cultivar/variety of Bridgesii is recommended?
I hope it isn't against the rules to name sources for active cactus considering I have posts saying that I use the cactus for medicine. If this is not OK, I'll edit the post.
But I started with cuttings from 'Cactus Kate' strain Bridgesii and they never failed me. Always potent, great and exciting and teaching and mystic trips, depending on dose, set and setting. The taste of the tea was never too bitter. They grew fast outdoors in the summer and did manage to grow indoor, but they etiolated and slowed down near the end of their growth. I will be retrying an indoor bridgesii grow derived from this strain, trying new methods to supplement for a light deficit, such as increased use of organic fertilizer and compost.
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High potency clones include:
Eileen, originally shared from the SAB forum.
SS02.
Lumberjack, a Bridgesii x Peru.
TBM short form is another good one that is commonly available.
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Many thanks!
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Bridgesii are consistently potent. There are some clones that have been recognized as being above average in potency for Bridgesii. But no Bridgesii that I know of are weak. They are also consistently fast, healthy growers.
I would encourage you to get the largest, healthiest cuttings of Bridgesii that you can find, regardless of clone name or genetics. For someone just starting a collection it isn't really worth it to pay the extra money for the most sought after clones. You'll get the most bang for your buck with unnamed cuttings. Try to get the fattest, healthiest cuttings of Bridgesii that you can find at the best price. It isn't necessary to pay the extra money for named clones. Once your collection is already built up then you can splurge on the expensive clones if you still want to. Bridgesii won't let you down.
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someonewhoisnotme said: Maybe something to note is a slightly longer brew could be a happy medium, as I was always fond of longer brews at low temps then the opposite.
It definitely makes a difference. The main difference really is a lot of really high-temp brews end up burning the brew. If the liquid level gets really low and the heat stays up it can all burn up - happened to me once, I left my apartment for a sec only to come back to a burnt black mess. (I tried to add more water and make a tea from what burned and it still worked ok, but something was definitely lost).
If the water level is low and the tea is 'burned', it would introduce a lot of ashy flavors to the brew and greatly increase its nausea-inducing potential. Some curanderos intentionally try to make a 'burnt' brew and to make people vomit to 'expel the spirits'.
Yeah, When I was extracting I always kept the crock pot on low, I brewed with the lid on stirring every hour or so gently, then after brewing for 18-24 hours, I would take the lid off, spoon out the cactus chunks squeezing them along the sides of the pot, and left it overnight. I woke up and everything was perfectly evaped, no burning of the medicine, and a very beautiful deep amber crystal pile to awe at upon collecting 
So you leave the lid off with the crockpot still on, set to LOW overnight...?
And got amber crystals?
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Yeah agreed. Don’t worry about names and hype just find happy healthy fat bridgesii that’s grow well in your environment.
Make a large enough batch of tea to make up for weak cuts and if your first dose is weak, drink more of the big batch next time to get you where you want to go.
Like GreyFox has mentioned, once you have cuttings you know and are familiar with and how it grows and makes tea for you, dosing becomes easier.
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Spicy] 1
#27727932 - 04/09/22 07:58 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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The colors of Bridgesii. Deep shades of green and smoky blue. It is a beautiful cactus!
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: schmutzen] 1
#27731416 - 04/12/22 01:10 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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someonewhoisnotme said: Maybe something to note is a slightly longer brew could be a happy medium, as I was always fond of longer brews at low temps then the opposite.
It definitely makes a difference. The main difference really is a lot of really high-temp brews end up burning the brew. If the liquid level gets really low and the heat stays up it can all burn up - happened to me once, I left my apartment for a sec only to come back to a burnt black mess. (I tried to add more water and make a tea from what burned and it still worked ok, but something was definitely lost).
If the water level is low and the tea is 'burned', it would introduce a lot of ashy flavors to the brew and greatly increase its nausea-inducing potential. Some curanderos intentionally try to make a 'burnt' brew and to make people vomit to 'expel the spirits'.
Yeah, When I was extracting I always kept the crock pot on low, I brewed with the lid on stirring every hour or so gently, then after brewing for 18-24 hours, I would take the lid off, spoon out the cactus chunks squeezing them along the sides of the pot, and left it overnight. I woke up and everything was perfectly evaped, no burning of the medicine, and a very beautiful deep amber crystal pile to awe at upon collecting 
So you leave the lid off with the crockpot still on, set to LOW overnight...?
And got amber crystals?

yes, distilled water, organic lemon juice, cut the cutting into small cubes like making fried potatoes, or use a cheese grater with large grates and "shave" the cactus into shreddings, cook it with the lid on, pot on low for 16 hours, stir every hour or two quickly and slap the lid back on, after 16 hours, (obviously you can brew as long as you wish) take your lid off, remove your cubes/cactus shreds, leave the lid off now, keep the pot on low and let it finish cooking overnight, you can stir during this stage as well, but it's personal preference, and the water will evap off, and you are left with full spectrum bridgesii ACHUMA extract!
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The original setting to trip lol! But tonight for me its just cannabis and mezcal. But the full moon keeps calling. One of these years I'm going to trip every full moon. One of these years...
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and a very beautiful deep amber crystal pile to awe at upon collecting 
Yeah, full spectrum extract, not amber crystals... you definitely won’t get crystals doing it this way. It’ll be more like a thick, sticky mass of cactus concentrate. Like sticky
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
#27736895 - 04/16/22 07:08 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Most unnamed bridgesii are stronger than most named clones that aren't bridgesii.
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
#27737317 - 04/16/22 01:00 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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The original setting to trip lol! But tonight for me its just cannabis and mezcal. But the full moon keeps calling. One of these years I'm going to trip every full moon. One of these years...
for sure the thing about cactus is when your buddy asks if you like day tripping or night tripping, you can just say yes lol
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Bardy]
#27737320 - 04/16/22 01:03 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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and a very beautiful deep amber crystal pile to awe at upon collecting 
Yeah, full spectrum extract, not amber crystals... you definitely won’t get crystals doing it this way. It’ll be more like a thick, sticky mass of cactus concentrate. Like sticky
that's not true, you are telling something that extracted it personally, the method i used i literally had amber shards that glowed under uv light.
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Shards are pure alkaloids that crystallize to a single, pure, mostly translucent rock.
I have done this method more than a dozen times, and never got shards. It's impossible to get shards this way, as the extract with water is anything else than pure. You need to ingest at least 10 to 15 grams of this tar to trip, that's like 20 to 30 times more than with pure mescaline.
Somethimes when tar dries it leaves some sort of pattern on the dish that resemble crystal patterns and can be mixed up with crystal shards just by it's look. But it's not. Even pure mescaline salt doesn't forms shards at all. It's either thin long needles (sulphate), or snowflake like patterns (HCl), but no mescaline extract forms quarz-like shards. To get solid rocks of mescaline you'd need ounces of it as starting material, and then slowly re-x it over days in a special solvent. It's simply not possible with a few hundred milligrams of a crude full spectrum extract.
So, whatever you saw as shards was not mescaline. Maybe calcium oxalate or some other cactus ingredient that had recrystallized. But non of the cactus alkaloids are known to form any shards in the concentrations they appear in cacti.
This is several grams of mescaline HCl crystals. You need at least a dozen cuttings for this ammount, I got it via a/b extraction with water, citric acid, NaOH, xylene, muriatic acid, acetone, and it's like 30 times more pure than any crude water extract that you described.

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Pandemoon said: Shards are pure alkaloids that crystallize to a single, pure, mostly translucent rock.
I have done this method more than a dozen times, and never got shards. It's impossible to get shards this way, as the extract with water is anything else than pure. You need to ingest at least 10 to 15 grams of this tar to trip, that's like 20 to 30 times more than with pure mescaline.
Somethimes when tar dries it leaves some sort of pattern on the dish that resemble crystal patterns and can be mixed up with crystal shards just by it's look. But it's not. Even pure mescaline salt doesn't forms shards at all. It's either thin long needles (sulphate), or snowflake like patterns (HCl), but no mescaline extract forms quarz-like shards. To get solid rocks of mescaline you'd need ounces of it as starting material, and then slowly re-x it over days in a special solvent. It's simply not possible with a few hundred milligrams of a crude full spectrum extract.
So, whatever you saw as shards was not mescaline. Maybe calcium oxalate or some other cactus ingredient that had recrystallized. But non of the cactus alkaloids are known to form any shards in the concentrations they appear in cacti.
This is several grams of mescaline HCl crystals. You need at least a dozen cuttings for this ammount, I got it via a/b extraction with water, citric acid, NaOH, xylene, muriatic acid, acetone, and it's like 30 times more pure than any crude water extract that you described.

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what is with you people? i literally used a razor blade fresh out the pack and chipped off literal crystal like shards from the bottom of the ceramic pot, i had a uv lamp and some uv posters back then and walls were a golden yellow, and the ceiling was textured white, the story goes i was collect the shards and placing them into a spare mason jar lid, not thinking ofc, and the lid was on top of the ring and the shards spewed over into the carpet, so i used the uv light to pick the shards out of the fibers and put them into the other one.
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Nice story. Didn’t happen though. Mescaline doesn’t glow under UV.
Stop telling porkies.
I’ve done the proper extraction, it takes a lot more work than just slowly boiling down tea to get crystals.
I guess if you dried the tea extract right out it’s possible it might turn into a hard mass... but that’s not what people call crystals.
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Bardy]
#27737505 - 04/16/22 03:53 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Bardy said: Nice story. Didn’t happen though. Mescaline doesn’t glow under UV.
Stop telling porkies.
I’ve done the proper extraction, it takes a lot more work than just slowly boiling down tea to get crystals.
I guess if you dried the tea extract right out it’s possible it might turn into a hard mass... but that’s not what people call crystals.
no one here is talking about mescaline
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
#27737518 - 04/16/22 04:09 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Chlorophyll breaks down to an amber brown and often glows under UV. There are several things in plants that can be extracted easily and glow.
Mescaline in various forms does have excitation and emission spectra that are in the UV range. They are not typically visible to people because we do not see in the range that this occurs in.
However photometric detection of mescaline is a thing.
The basis of nearly all good detection methods is to have a reference sample, the real deal, to compare your extract to.
I have an open mind for this: To show the method working the sample needs to be next to mescaline and they both need to display the same distinct glow in a way that other things cannot be easily mistaken for.
Mescaline is the dominant alkaloid in T. bridgesii, some specimens have even been shown to have it and little else.
People have been eating and brewing the plant by boiling it for a very long time. Picking things out of the carpet may not be the way to go...
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
#27737530 - 04/16/22 04:22 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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The original setting to trip lol! But tonight for me its just cannabis and mezcal. But the full moon keeps calling. One of these years I'm going to trip every full moon. One of these years...
That is amazing.
I recommend seeking the full moon setting at sunrise. Definitely an intense energetic moment in time.
Check out some pics down the bottom of this thread, check them out!
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