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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
#27636969 - 01/29/22 02:21 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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For 20 years i bought several san pedro's and they were always inactive. I gave up hope until i finally found some bridgessi cutting and started growing them. Last summer i consumed 3 (thin) bridgessi cuttings at once (only the green outer parts) and they were each over a foot in length...the come up was so intense i almost couldn't handle it and i really had to concentrate not to go into full panic mode. It was a beautifull trip eventually, but it took a some time to calm myself and get comfortable with the intensity. But next time i will eat just one foot of cactus, this was way too much. The visuals were very different from anything else, trees were cartoon like and moved like spirals. I wrote a short trip report here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27416505
In the extreme summer heat i water them almost every day and they grow super fast, the water evaporates in a few hours. I have about 12 of them and put them in big buckets, this way they become huge, however when doing this you have to be carefull that the roots don't rot so in cooler periods i water very little or not at all.
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: redrocket] 1
#27637400 - 01/29/22 11:49 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for sharing this Red Rocket. Your trip report is a good read.
Lol almost everytime that I trip on Bridgesii there is usually a point 2 or 3 hours in where I think "Damn this is strong". Kind of like its impossible to really remember how strong it is until I'm actually back there again.
Cactus trips are strange because you stay rooted in your body in this real world, but everything around you changes and the world becomes magical and psychedelic. The spirals that you speak of remind me of swirling vortexes that I often see on cactus trips. Usually they are embedded into objects in my visual field like walls or stones or the side of my dog. And the detail and vividness of everything that I look at is so incredible with cactus. But when I really stare hard at something in order to figure out exactly what I'm looking at it has a habit of starting to shift around lol. Only recently have I begun to intentionally close my eyes for long periods of time on cactus trips in order to observe the CEVs. They are quite elaborate and beautiful as well.
However I think that the visuals themselves are only one small part of the transformation that occurs on these trips. In a sense, they are just the easiest phenomena to put words to. The actual transformation of headspace that occurs is so unusual and immersive that it is almost impossible to actually describe with words.
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#27646890 - 02/05/22 11:15 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I repotted a bunch of Bridgesii that I sowed last May. They were all poking each other hopefully they will be more happy and survive the repotting. There are 19 little pots with 4-6 youngsters in each one.
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Thats awesome Chuck! All the best with those seedlings!
I've never grown from seed. Is it hard to do? They're cool looking little guys. They have character already.
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
#27647768 - 02/05/22 11:38 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I pasteurized the soil and sowed in front of my flow hood, all things I could do easily hence shroom growing. I kept them covered in plastic takeout containers with black bases and clear tops for 4-5 months and then uncovered. Just learning as I go. Thanks for the kind words Grey Fox
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I'll give it a shot one day. I hope they grow fast for you in their new homes.
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
#27648429 - 02/06/22 03:13 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Cuttings going back to the ground. The cycle continues.
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#27663693 - 02/18/22 09:22 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Bridgesii SS02 getting tall:

SS02 is supposed to be one of the strongest Trichocereus. The one time I tried it SS02 was very bitter and quite strong.
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
#27663773 - 02/18/22 10:40 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Mother Achuma be good to us.
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
#27664138 - 02/18/22 03:37 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Grey Fox said: Bridgesii SS02 getting tall:

SS02 is supposed to be one of the strongest Trichocereus. The one time I tried it SS02 was very bitter and quite strong.
Is that plated in the ground? Looks great.
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Hi Chuck! Yes it is planted in the ground. Its about time for me to trim back the bermuda grass lol.
I grow all the cactus in the ground. The climate here is right for it. Its really easy to grow them in the ground. I water them every week or two during the growing season. They get fertilized with some compost and chicken manure once a year in the spring. Thats it. They grow great like that. In ground San Pedros get bigger than container grown ones. And they are less likely to have problems from being over or under watered or with extremes in heat or cold. They can grow into huge plants when grown in the ground under the right conditions. I've seen old stands of PC that are 15 feet tall and 8 feet wide. Mine are still youngsters in comparison. That SS02 will be 5 years old this spring, planted from a 12 inch cutting. Right now the taller column is over 7 feet tall.
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
#27664552 - 02/18/22 10:19 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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So tight!
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SS02 is a semi-bald Bridgesii. As it matures there are sections that have tiny baby spines or no spines at all. Even where it is fully spined, the spine defense is weak for a Bridgesii. It is common on SS02 to have 2 equally sized spines growing out of the areole as a horizontal pair. The ribs on SS02 are wide.

Trichocereus cacti have two modes of defense against predators:
1) SPINES These can be a good defense against larger predators like mammals or birds. The spines create a physical defense around the cactus. This is the plant's spine defense system against predators.
2) CHEMICALS These can be a good defense against smaller predators like insects. But they can be effective against larger predators as well. Chemicals make the cactus taste bad and make predators sick. This is the plant's chemical defense system against predators.
When the spine defense is unusually weak compared to what is typical for the species then that always makes me think this cactus would be a good candidate to bioassay and test for strength. I'm sure its not a 100% correlation. I'm sure there are outliers (like PC and LER). But generally speaking, a weakly spined Bridgesii would be my preference over a strongly spined Bridgesii. Same with Peruvianus. Same with Pachanoi. The weakly spined types are more likely to be potent. And they are easier to handle.
I look for fewer spines per areole than is typical. I also look for shorter spine length than is typical.
I think that the weaker spined types are relying more heavily on their chemical defense, and mescaline is a big part of that defense. It causes nausea and confusing effects, and it suppresses the appetite. I think that some of these cacti are naturally selecting to be more chemical defense oriented. And as a result, less energy is being spent on developing strong spines. These are the cacti that we should be looking for and bioassaying. Surely some process like this must have played a role in peyote evolving to become completely spineless and depending 100% on chemical defense.
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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
#27668043 - 02/21/22 04:34 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Yes! I love SS02 as well, it was my first true experience after a few close misses. Yours looks great in the ground! I put mine in the ground recently and am excited for it to expand more.
I agree with you on the spine vs chemicals theory. Which is why I really want to add a good Scop to my collection! But Landfill, OGUN and Hutchinson 6212 are all really great and have super small spines.
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someonewhoisnotme said: And, when I say OG Bolivian Torch, I mean T. bridgesii (now Echinopsis-something).
i mean if you want pure bloodlines, pack ur bags and collect from the bolivian wilderness.
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Spicy I hope your SS02 does great in the ground!
Someonewhoisnotme Landfill is a Pachanoi. A lot of people prefer to buy certain named clones that are known to be strong. People don't want to buy cactus that ends up being weak, like a lot of San Pedro and Peruvian Torch can be. But Bridgesii is more consistently strong. With Bridgesii having named clones isn't as important. But even so, there are some clones of Bridgesii that have been recognized as being stronger than most.
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