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InvisibleGrey Fox

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Bridgesii Thread * 10
    #27522916 - 10/29/21 02:07 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

So I thought this might be a good place to start an ongoing discussion about Trichocereus bridgesii (also known as Echinopsis lageniformis or Achuma or the Bolivian Torch cactus).

I think that this cactus merits special attention because of how fast it grows and also because of how consistently powerful it is.  I grow several different species of Trichocereus.  I respect and appreciate all of them.  But I always come back to Bridgesii because it constantly produces so much plant material, and the effects are stronger than any of the other Trichocereus that I have.  In my opinion Bridgesii is the most well suited of the Trichocereus cacti for psychedelic exploration and entheogenic work.  It is also the most beautiful looking of the Trichocereus to me.

So what I envision this thread to be is a place for those who have an appreciation for Bridgesii to share their thoughts and experiences, as well as a place for those who are curious to learn more.

The reason that I am starting this thread is that, it seems to me, Bridgesii often gets lumped together with "San Pedro cactus", without being recognized as a unique and special entheogen in its own right.  Those who are familiar with San Pedro know that many of these cacti vary wildly in terms of potency and other characteristics.  The San Pedro experience is often characterized as being a very gentle, not that intense sort of trip.  However Bridgesii possesses a different character to it.  Bridgesii is consistently very potent.  While the Bridgesii experience can be quite similar to what many think of regarding San Pedro (gentle, forgiving, etc), yet at higher doses the unique character of Bridgesii really shines through.  This is an extremely powerful and intense psychedelic.  It deserves it's own treatment and discussion.  And that's what I'm hoping that this thread can be.

So to kick things off I'm going to start by describing my first experience with Bridgesii, in the hope that others will chime in and share their perspectives as well.  Hopefully we can keep this thread going over time so that more and more can be recorded and shared about this special plant.



For me it all began awhile back after successfully ordering several cuttings of Trichocereus bridgesii from some online vendors.  A friend and I decided to test out the Bridgesii to see what the experience would be like.  I dont want to speak for him or to discuss any of the details of what his trip was like.  That's for him to do if the time ever comes for that.  But this is how the experience went for me.

Now I'll start out by saying that prior to this I had on 2 separate occassions drank tea made from the PC clone of Trichocereus pachanoi.  Those 2 experiences were pleasant, but definitely on the weaker side.  I was hoping for more than that from the Bridgesii, but honestly my hopes were not super high.

So one morning in early winter I consumed the flesh of 9 inches of Bridgesii.  The material came from 2 different unnamed Bridgesii cuttings, both of which were quite thick and appeared to have come from large plants.  The cactus was cut up into chunks, with the spines and clear skin removed.  I ate the green flesh and the white inner flesh and core, just the spines and clear skin were removed.

So the plan was to eat the cactus and then to drive out to an isolated spot out in the desert with nice views that was about an hour's drive away.  (I know, tripping and driving is bad.  Don't do it.  I don't do it anymore).  From what I had read and experienced before it would take several hours for the cactus to kick in, so at the time it seemed reasonable. 

About halfway to the destination I began to feel odd.  I felt a heaviness begin to weigh down my arms.  My pupils were getting large.  However we made it to the destination with no problem.  Once there the wind felt incredibly cold (it was 40 F degrees that morning).  I was dressed warmly but the wind cut through my clothing like it wasnt even there.  After hiking a short distance from the vehicle all I could do was huddle down next to a bush, shivering, and curled up into a ball as the wind froze and completely immobilized me.  A growing roar filled my ears as though a large waterfall was nearby.  However there was no waterfall.  Looking down at the ground the small rocks shone and sparkled.  Heaviness and cold washed over me in waves.  I started to think, "This is a lot stronger than what I expected".

We spent that day out in the desert.  The view from that spot was far out into the distance.  During the course of that day the initial waves of cold and heaviness transformed into waves of excitement and energy.  I saw incredibly far into the distant horizon with binocular-like vision.  The hillsides became alive with colors and patterns.  But these visual changes were different from what I had seen before with LSD or shrooms.  They were so realistic looking, as if embedded into the landscape itself.

At the peak it became difficult to speak.  I threw up several hours in while trying to drink some water.  The wave-like nature of the trip was so pronounced.  One minute it felt as if sobriety was beginning to return.  Then the next minute I was rocked by the intensity of the trip.  This went on and on all day.

As the sun began to get low in the sky it was time to start heading home.  I was still tripping very hard.  We encountered some people near where we had parked.  The interaction with them was awkward and confusing.  I had difficulty understanding what objects they were holding in their hands.  I stumbled awkwardly right though the middle of their group.  I'm sure that they probably thought I was nuts.

The drive home seemed to take forever.  It was very dangerous.  I had no business driving in that state, but managed to make it hime safely.

The trip continued on late into the night, gently subsiding in intensity as the hours passed.

I learned to have a lot of respect for Bridgesii that day.  It was the beginning of a relationship that has continued on for years now.  Bridgesii is a powerful medicine.  It will smash right through any barriers that your mind has constructed.  It will show you what is behind there. 

These days I grow many Bridgesii plants.  And every few months I spend some time journeying with it.  I have a lot of love for this cactus.  It deserves a lot of respect.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: CreonAntigone] * 1
    #27523247 - 10/29/21 07:09 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah it is interesting how the experience can be so variable at different dose levels.  I find that sometimes experiences can be variable at the same dose with the same plant.  Its like every trip is different, but there is always something that you can learn if you are trying to. 

That report I gave above was quite a strong experience for 9 inches of Bridgesii.  But it was good quality cuttings and I ate the cactus.  So it was strong.  But when I go higher with the amount of cactus it can get stronger still.  18 inches of mature, good quality Bridgesii cuttings is a nice trip.  I'm talking about using the entire cutting.  I'm not sure how much extra it would take with only the green flesh.

But as a tea 18" is a nice, solid Bridgesii trip.  For me its usually on the border of a full breakthrough, but not quite all the way there.  One foot in this world and one foot in the world of patterns and electricity and shifting objects.  You see both.  More cactus will take you deeper but then the Bridgesii starts to get really hard on the body.  Its more immersive and physically intense than many other psychedelics.  You can get really nauseous and tight with muscle discomfort if you go up real high.  I like to get as strong as possible before physical problems become distracting.  18" whole cutting of good, mature Bridgesii usually is right there for me.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27524645 - 10/30/21 09:14 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Its cool to see the interest that you all have in this species.  Lots of seed being planted.  It feels like the genie is out of the bottle and nothing will be able to stop these cacti from spreading all over the world.  Thats a good thing in my opinion.



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have you tried mixing bridgesii with other cactus?





Yes I like to do that.  Years ago there was a forum member named Joe Molloy who talked about doing this.  He said that Bridgesii seemed to potentiate and strengthen the other cactus when combined together.  And I think he was right about this.  There seems to be something "extra" in Bridgesii that has a potentiating effect upon mescaline.  I always add some Bridgesii to the tea when brewing cuttings from other species, otherwise the effects of the tea are noticably weaker. 

But there's debate about this.  And its good to consider other views.  Some people are of the opinion that all these Trichocereus cacti basically have the same effects, because its all just caused by the mescaline and nothing else.  But almost everyone I've spoken to with experience consuming tea from different species all come to the conclusion that this is not the case.  For me the difference between Pachanoi and Peruvianus and Macrogonus and Scopulicola is not that great.  There are some differences but the overall feel to the experience is pretty similar.  It is the uplifting, peaceful, happy, serene feel that "San Pedro" is known for.  Bridgesii is the outlier for me.  It has an "intensity" to it that the others lack and the visuals are the strongest.



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Do you have any recommendations on how to best stress them for max potency when it's almost time to cut?





I dont think that anyone has this entirely figured out yet, though there are some good ideas out there around the topic of "stressing".  Personally I like to age cuttings for a few weeks to a couple of months before using them for tea.  The main thing is just to keep them out of direct sunlight, whether they are stored indoors or outdoors.  In the shade cuttings can survive for many months with no problem.  But I dont put them in complete darkness or try to torture them in anyway.  I like them to still be healthy and in good shape for planting in case plans change.

Hey all the best with your trip!



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Mine are beautiful often I wake up at night and look over at their silhouettes in the darkness and enjoy them living and sharing my room with me.





I feel the same way about them CHUCK.HNTR.  These cacti have a lot of character.  I cant escape the impression of being next to a living being with a strong presence to it when I stand next to these cacti.  When I trip out in the desert the Saguaros have this presence to them too, especially the really old ones.  It feels like they are quietly taking everything in, like they have an awareness to them.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: thenagual]
    #27526868 - 11/01/21 08:14 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I had a Bridgesii trip over the summer where the color of the walls kept changing.  There are certain colors that I always tend to see.  Orange and purple are the most common.  Sometimes green or gold or silver.  During that trip I would be looking at a wall and the color would just wash out of it.  The wall would become a pale white.  And then a new color would wash over it. 

The OEV's on cactus are different for me than with other psychedelics.  With shrooms the fact that something was a visual caused by the trip would be very obvious.  I knew I was looking at a visual.  But with cactus the visual changes are more concrete and realistic.  The wall color actually changes.  The rocks actually have hieroglyphics carved into them.  That spider actually has a brightly painted human-like face.  It feels like the world around me is changed in bizarre ways, but still actually the world that is around me, if that makes sense.


Sub-Easy nice trip report.  I'm glad it was a good trip.  That PC looks very healthy.  So the tea you drank was most of that cactus in your photos?  Thats a lot of cactus.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: wxorx]
    #27530576 - 11/04/21 08:28 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Those are beautiful cacti wxorx.  Those first two photos really show the beauty of Bridgesii.  Any tips for how to grow them?

I've found that Bridgesii are especially sensitive to rot and also to freezing temps.  Bridgesii are the first to get the black rot when there is wet weather in the summertime.  And their tips are the first to turn black from freeze damage in the winter.  They need good drainage and protection from freezing cold.  Bridgesii grows really fast when its happy, but its sensitive to the weather.

Hey how do you all pronounce Bridgesii?  For a long time I pronounced it bridge - es -  ee.  But then I found out that the proper way of saying it is bridge - es - ee - ie.  Its supposed to end with an E I sound, like the E I in the Old MacDonald song: E I E I O.  Thats the "correct" way to say Bridgesii.  But I think that both forms are acceptable in common usage.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27531234 - 11/05/21 11:24 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Lol.  Yeah I used to think that the pronunciation didnt really matter.  But then I spoke face to face with an older gentleman who had been growing these cacti for decades.  I heard him say trike - oe - serious  bridge - es - ee - ie.  And I realized that I probably sounded pretty dumb saying trick - oe - serious bridge - es - ee.  :grin:

I think its best to pronounce these plant names properly whenever possible.  There is already so much confusion and misinformation out there, we dont need to be adding to it by not even saying the names correctly.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: golmo]
    #27538304 - 11/10/21 06:54 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I dont grow in containers.  So its interesting to hear what works for folks who do.  I imagine that the potting mix will play a big role in how often one can water.  Good drainage is really important, especially for Bridgesii.  If their roots stay soaked for too long then bad things will happen eventually.  Black rot is the biggest killer of these cacti.  So in general its better to underwater than to overwater.  But people have to find what works best in their climate and setting.

Wxorx your cacti are beautiful.  But keep an eye out for black rot.  That second photo looks like there are a few small spots of concern.  Usually that will heal up on its own if you stop watering for awhile.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Sub-Easy]
    #27541631 - 11/13/21 10:26 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

That 1/3 jar was more of the PC tea?

Yes the mental clarity from a cactus trip is incredible.  I like to think of the experience as a combination of tripping and nootropics.  And the effects last.  For weeks afterward my mind feels sharper and more clear.  The challenge then becomes to sift through all of those ideas and find the lasting gems.  And then to apply those insights to real life.  Not always easy to do.  Peace.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
    #27543617 - 11/14/21 09:12 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

So I cut a couple of cactus today.  An unnamed Bridgesii and Trichocereus "El Chapo".  They're both fat cuts from good sized plants.  Bridgesii was about 6 1/2 feet.  El Chapo was about 8 feet.  These are the tips from the main columns.  Still have to put a tape measure on them, but both are around 2 feet in length.  Feels like there is power in these cuts.  The life force of these cacti.

I thought about it after cutting them.  Figured its probably close to $200 in cactus in today's crazy market.  Maybe more.  It made me sad to think that this medicine would cost so much, especially since its so easy to grow.  Cannabis is like this too.

I figure its 4 "medium" doses or 3 "strong" doses or 2 "very strong" doses.  So I figure 3 doses is best.  Should be very nice.  The combo of this Scop / fat Pach type combined with the Bridgesii, its very nice.  Two fat cuts.  The tea comes out so nice.

The strength is very solid.  There will be visuals.  And euphoria.  And clarity and healing.  The joy.  The power.  A lot to experience.  Looking forward to it.

But for now they age.  In the shadows.  For weeks.  Until the time is right.  For Solstice.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: golmo]
    #27544991 - 11/15/21 10:29 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Sub-Easy  :thumbup:


Golmo I just measured the cuttings.  The El Chapo cutting is 24 inches.  The Bridgesii cutting is 27 inches.  They are both pretty fat.  So if brewed together as tea and then divided 3 ways, that would mean that each serving of tea would be 17 inches worth of thick cactus.  Thats right where I want to be.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: CreonAntigone]
    #27565416 - 12/01/21 10:09 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Mike4aco]
    #27567249 - 12/03/21 06:38 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

There is something special about Bridgesii.  It has that extra intensity.  It reliably produces visual changes if you take enough.  I always add some to the tea.  Even if the tea is partly or mostly made from Pachanoi or some other species, if there is also Bridgesii in the tea then you know it will have that extra "kick" to it.  Bridgesii gives me more nausea and muscle tension compared to the other species.  But when Bridgesii is brewed together with Pachanoi or another Trich species the tea gives me less of those physical problems, while still being strong and visually stimulating. 

I used to eat the raw cactus.  I would pull the spines, peel off the clear skin, and chop the cactus into chunks to chow down on.  That way you really taste the flavor.  Bridgesii was always more bitter tasting than the others.  If you eat another species of Trich along with the Bridgesii then the difference in bitterness is quite noticable.

At first the flavor of cactus didn't seem too bad.  But the more I ate it the worse it started to taste.  Kind of like developing a taste aversion over time.  Thats why I eventually switched to tea. 

The nice thing about tea is that you are able to concentrate a large amount of cactus material into a small amout of liquid to consume.  In that regard it is more efficient than just eating the cactus.  But I found that to get to the same level of intensity it was necessary to use more cactus when brewing tea compared to eating it.  For example, it might take an 18 inch piece of cactus brewed as tea to get the same strength high as eating 12 inches of that same cactus.  So the tea is not as effective at getting all of the alkaloids compared to when you just eat the cactus, because by eating it you will get 100% of the alkaloids.  Brewimg tea (which is just another way of saying "performing a water based extraction") or performing any sort of extraction can never get 100% of the alkaloids.  Some are always lost in the process or still left behind in the plant material.

But the trade off is worth it.  I look at these cacti as lifelong companions.  Over the years they are going to produce A LOT of plant material, and you are going to end up propagating more and eventually end up with way more cactus than you originally bargained for.  Its only a matter of time.  Thats why I always encourage people to not cut them when they are still small.  Let them grow to a certain point - say 4 feet or so - before you cut them.  Once they reach that critical mass then they are really able to start producing a lot of growth.  And cuttings become more powerful as the plant grows larger and more mature.

But the beauty of the tea is that it is possible to trip on as much cactus as you want to, and it is still just a small size to actually consume, because the tea can be reduced down to a small amount.  I have found that when the tea is more concentrated it tends to hit faster and the onset is more intense.  But the concentrated tea also tastes worse and is harsher on the stomach.  A more watery tea tastes less nasty, but it is harder work to drink that larger amount.  And if the volume is too large then that can also cause stomach problems too.  You have to find the happy middle ground that works for you where the tea is concentrated down enough to make it a manageable amount to consume, but where it is not so concentrated that it is sickening to drink.  The last few times I have reduced 18 inches of cactus down to 4 or 5 ounces of tea, and that feels just right for me.

Some things have helped me with making the tea more palatable.  If the tea is scorched while it is being reduced down then it becomes much harder to drink.  As the tea is reducing, especially as the amount of liquid in the pot becomes low, it is easy to burn the tea.  It will become dark brown or even black.  This makes it harder to drink and it gives worse nausea.  I also wonder what this does to the full spectrum of alkaloids found in the tea.  So care should be taken to not let the tea burn at the end while reducing.

Its also very important to filter out and then later decant as much of the plant matter as possible from the tea.  Those fine particles floating in the tea will make you sick.  The tea should not look like a sludge.  It should be a tea, not a smoothie.  Filter it as best as possible at the end of the brew.  Then let is sit in the fridge in a sealed container for a few days.  Gently pour off and save the liquid.  That is your tea.  Throw away the sediment left at the bottom of the container.  YOU DON'T WANT TO DRINK THE SEDIMENT.  It will make you sick.  Even when you drink your tea, if there is some sediment at the bottom of the glass, don't drink it.  Just discard the sediment after you drink the liquid..  Its not worth it to consume the sediment.  The alkaloids are in the liquid.  The sediment and material that settles to the bottom is not what you want.

The great thing about these cacti is that they become companions that stay with you for many years.  They have the ability to outlive us all when properly cared for.  Just keep growimg them and spending time with them and getting to know them.  They will become old friends and over time you will get to know what works for you.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Mike4aco]
    #27591677 - 12/23/21 09:49 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

So my cuttings have been aging all this time.  I didnt get a chance to brew them yet due to some unexpected problems with my fridge that left me with no place to put the tea.  But the fridge is getting fixed today so soon I will be able to make the tea.  It looks like my Solstice trip has become a New Years trip LOL.

I did get a chance to eat some mushroom based chocolates a few nights before the Solstice.  It made me miss the cactus tea even more.  There's nothing like cactus tea as far as I'm concerned, especially when there is Bridgesii in the brew.

I hope all you cactus folks are doing well and having a happy holiday season!


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: anatomality] * 1
    #27591781 - 12/23/21 11:17 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Looking good Sub Easy!



Anatomality if you go just based on proven mescaline content then the best quality Pachanoi are 1st and Bridgesii are 2nd.  But full spectrum tea from Bridgesii is almost always stronger than all the others.  Go figure what that means?

From my experience Bridgesii > Scopulicola > Pachanoi > Macrogonus > Peruvianus > PC.  But thats just from the limited number of cacti that I've personally consumed.  Terscheckii and Validus and some of the other species are also supposed to be quite active.

All the best with your cactus!


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: golmo]
    #27594010 - 12/25/21 01:02 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Golmo I've tried at least 10 different Bridgesii clones and all of them have been stronger than any of the other Trichocereus species that I have had so far.  I haven't found a weak one yet.  There might be some weak Bridgesii out there, but I haven't come across any yet.

Its hard to say from clone to clone what the differences are because every trip is unique.  But in general I have found that at low to moderate doses Bridgesii is not that different from Pachanoi.  It is stimulating and usually happy / positive feeling for me.  But at larger doses the character of the Bridgesii starts to really show.  Big doses of Bridgesii become very visual.  Lots of CEVs and OEVs.  I get a lot of muscle tension.  I feel heavy and lethargic for large parts of the trip.  There is more of a serious, almost stern, quality to the headspace for me.  I feel the love and clarity like Pachanoi has.  But everything has an amped up feeling of intensity to it that makes the trip less "fun" and more of a serious ordeal kind of experience.  As the peak wears off and the trip trails off then I often will feel that increase of energy towards the backend of the Bridgesii trip.  It just has a more challenging, serious, deeper feel to it in general.  After the trip there is a sense of gratitude and relief to be back in a normal state and to have learned those lessons.  It may well be possible to get to a similar place with Pachanoi or Peruvianus, but I think that it would take a large amount to get there.

These have been my experiences.  I'm curious to hear from others who have also gone deep with Bridgesii to hear what their experiences have been.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: SnowFat] * 1
    #27599522 - 12/30/21 07:30 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)

Best luck with growing that seed Snowfat!


I'm drinking tea today, in a couple of hours.  Ended up brewing the tea over the weekend for 14 hours.  It came out to 48 ounces, which was way too much volume (since it is getting divided into 3 doses).  So I spent 2 more hours reducing it down to 16 ounces, which divides into 3 doses of a little over 5 ounces each.  That's much more manageable to consume!  The tea was made from a 27 inch piece of Bridgesii and a 24 inch piece of El Chapo (Scop/Pach hybrid?).  So the dose of tea I'll be drinking has alkaloids from 9 inches of Bridgesii and 8 inches of the El Chapo.  Fat cuts from big plants, aged for a little over a month.  Wish me luck!  I'll check in on the other side.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: darkcreature] * 2
    #27600787 - 12/31/21 05:38 AM (2 years, 27 days ago)

It was a strong trip, but very pleasant.  There was some vasoconstriction, but not too bad.  The first 8 hours or so of the trip was intense.  Spent a lot of time laying down and shifting my body around. I could feel every tiny movement of my body.  The visuals were nice.  Wispy fractal patterns near the edge of objects.  Color distortion.  The light coming through the blinds looked like it was passing through a prism.  Everything just looked new and fresh and vivid. 

As the trip progressed on my energy level picked up a lot.  Felt very energized.  Walked around a lot.  Felt very in tune with those who were with me and also with myself.  Its hard to put words to all this.  It was a very nice time.  It felt like I had consumed a medicine that was good for my body and mind.  It felt healing.  It was fun.

The tea was salty and bitter.  It was challenging to drink.  My stomach didn't feel good for the first few hours.  But I didn't puke.  My pupils were huge all day.  The trip would ebb and flow in waves of intensity.  The intense moments were very strong.  But there was relief from that mixed in throughout the day as the waves of intensity would pull back for awhile. It was kind of like the tide, cycling back and forth from high tide to low tide.  It was hard to keep track of time.  I couldn't really monitor the intervals of it or how often it happened.  But at high tide I felt very heavy, especially in my head.  Sound would become distorted.  I kept hearing sounds off in the distance, almost like alien music.  Visuals would pick up.  The trip would just get heavy for awhile.  Then it would pull back and I would be more present in my body and more clear and less heavy.  Then the heavy tide would roll back again.  On and off all day.  But all of it was pleasant and not scary.  It felt natural and healthy.  It was a very nice trip.  I tripped for 13 hours before going to bed.  Was still tripping while going to bed, but not nearly as strong as earlier on.

Cactus is my favorite.  Adding the El Chapo to the brew made the physical side effects less challenging than an all Bridgesii tea.  It also made the trip more energized and positive feeling than a pure Bridgesii trip usually is for me.  This combo of Bridgesii with the El Chapo is a good one.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Sub-Easy] * 1
    #27600789 - 12/31/21 05:46 AM (2 years, 27 days ago)

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Any advice on stressing them to up potency, or adding whatever the pharmaceutical is to the soil.

I really think we need to stress them.

Any thoughts.





What has worked well for me is to just focus on growing the cactus to be as healthy and happy as possible.  Then when time to trip is coming I harvest the cuttings around a month in advance.  I think that the cuttings feel stress just from being cut off and not given a chance to root.  Now and then I pick them up and handle them.  They want to be in the soil and undisturbed.  They don't really need to be in total darkness, just kept in the shade.  This has worked for me.  And there have been a few times when my plans have changed and I end up planting those cuttings.  They are still healthy and grow fine.


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    #27600994 - 12/31/21 09:33 AM (2 years, 27 days ago)

Its a tight feeling in the arms and legs.  The muscles feel stiff.  When it gets bad the muscles feel bloated.  Its never gotten to the point of being dangerous for me.  But it can be uncomfortable.  Bridgesii is known for doing this to some people.  Mescaline itself can cause some muscle tension.  But I'm pretty sure that there is something additional in Bridgesii that makes it worse.


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    #27602263 - 01/01/22 10:33 AM (2 years, 26 days ago)

Hi Tony!


Have a good trip Mike!


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