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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox] * 2
    #27523408 - 10/29/21 09:17 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)



The biggest ones are PC pachenoi, and the rest are hand pollinated bridgesii, pachenoi, and hybrid pachenoi bredgesii mixes from well bread parents. And some open pollinated mixes too.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: half.fast] * 2
    #27524128 - 10/30/21 01:38 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Remember, unless you grow from seed, you have to make sure the cuttings you get are not PC.

I didn't know about that for years while I grew PC so this is from those PC. I just got them prepared for today's adventure, so I hope they will do something. I'll let you know.



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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
    #27527023 - 11/02/21 01:08 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Subscribing here too. Have a small cacti collection - few bridgesii and peruvians, one pachanoi, and grafted lophophora. No experience with mescaline, except a failed attempt two years ago when I tried a piece of peruvian torch, rather small cutting, maybe 25cm x 5-6 cm diameter, but felt nothing. Now only grow them, don't have any plans to ingest any of them any time soon - they are just so beautiful plants
Here are pics of some of them (spine closeups):


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
    #27591759 - 12/23/21 10:59 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)



I just got the seeds I planted late in the spring of this year, repotted.

They are doing so good, and I have them in cold storage.

I just slowly stop watering, then put them in a cold dark room right before the first frost, and that works great.

The hardware cloth (chicken wire), is to keep mice from finding them.

I had to buy three ferrets to protect my other ones last winter, but I got rid of the farrets.

They are not easy pets to keep.


I know a great way to do a acid/base deal, but does anyone know how hard it is to do the next extra step for cleaning it up to a perfect powder?

I know it's supposed to be very difficult if you want to get it to the last, top quality stage.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Pandemoon]
    #27593282 - 12/24/21 04:50 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)









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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox] * 1
    #27594087 - 12/25/21 01:50 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

a little trick to help you with spines (if you grow a long spine cactus for mescaline and not for toothpicks).
I pinch the spines off (gently with my fingers) when they just pop out and are still fresh and tiny.

and this Bridgesii

becomes this

and i dont need to fight them when they are long and hard.
(and i even like the look of it spineless)


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
    #27618616 - 01/14/22 01:51 PM (2 years, 13 days ago)

After you've been growing them for awhile you end up with an unlimited supply of cactus to trip on, at least for one person's needs.  This is what fell off from one Bridgesii the other day.  This kind of thing happens all the time.  They just keep growing and dropping more columns, on and on forever.  It never stops.





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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
    #27630145 - 01/23/22 08:35 PM (2 years, 4 days ago)

Here are some smaller sized Bridgesii cuttings.  I love the color of Bridgesii.  But the spines are so sharp!




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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox] * 1
    #27646890 - 02/05/22 11:15 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

I repotted a bunch of Bridgesii that I sowed last May. They were all poking each other hopefully they will be more happy and survive the repotting.
There are 19 little pots with 4-6 youngsters in each one.



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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
    #27648429 - 02/06/22 03:13 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Cuttings going back to the ground.  The cycle continues.








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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox] * 2
    #27663693 - 02/18/22 09:22 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Bridgesii SS02 getting tall:




SS02 is supposed to be one of the strongest Trichocereus.  The one time I tried it SS02 was very bitter and quite strong.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
    #27664138 - 02/18/22 03:37 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Grey Fox said:
Bridgesii SS02 getting tall:




SS02 is supposed to be one of the strongest Trichocereus.  The one time I tried it SS02 was very bitter and quite strong.




Is that plated in the ground?
Looks great.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: CHUCK.HNTR] * 1
    #27667658 - 02/21/22 10:26 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

SS02 is a semi-bald Bridgesii.  As it matures there are sections that have tiny baby spines or no spines at all.  Even where it is fully spined, the spine defense is weak for a Bridgesii.  It is common on SS02 to have 2 equally sized spines growing out of the areole as a horizontal pair.  The ribs on SS02 are wide.









Trichocereus cacti have two modes of defense against predators:

1) SPINES
These can be a good defense against larger predators like mammals or birds.  The spines create a physical defense around the cactus.  This is the plant's spine defense system against predators.

2) CHEMICALS
These can be a good defense against smaller predators like insects.  But they can be effective against larger predators as well.  Chemicals make the cactus taste bad and make predators sick.  This is the plant's chemical defense system against predators.

When the spine defense is unusually weak compared to what is typical for the species then that always makes me think this cactus would be a good candidate to bioassay and test for strength.  I'm sure its not a 100% correlation.  I'm sure there are outliers (like PC and LER).  But generally speaking, a weakly spined Bridgesii would be my preference over a strongly spined Bridgesii.  Same with Peruvianus.  Same with Pachanoi.  The weakly spined types are more likely to be potent.  And they are easier to handle.

I look for fewer spines per areole than is typical.  I also look for shorter spine length than is typical.

I think that the weaker spined types are relying more heavily on their chemical defense, and mescaline is a big part of that defense.  It causes nausea and confusing effects, and it suppresses the appetite.  I think that some of these cacti are naturally selecting to be more chemical defense oriented.  And as a result, less energy is being spent on developing strong spines.  These are the cacti that we should be looking for and bioassaying.  Surely some process like this must have played a role in peyote evolving to become completely spineless and depending 100% on chemical defense.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Spicy] * 1
    #27727932 - 04/09/22 07:58 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

The colors of Bridgesii.  Deep shades of green and smoky blue.  It is a beautiful cactus!




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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: whenmistweeps] * 2
    #27736566 - 04/15/22 10:44 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)





The original setting to trip lol!  But tonight for me its just cannabis and mezcal.  But the full moon keeps calling.  One of these years I'm going to trip every full moon.  One of these years...


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
    #27737317 - 04/16/22 01:00 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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The original setting to trip lol!  But tonight for me its just cannabis and mezcal.  But the full moon keeps calling.  One of these years I'm going to trip every full moon.  One of these years...



for sure the thing about cactus is when your buddy asks if you like day tripping or night tripping, you can just say yes lol


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: whenmistweeps] * 1
    #27737347 - 04/16/22 01:37 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Shards are pure alkaloids that crystallize to a single, pure, mostly translucent rock.

I have done this method more than a dozen times, and never got shards. It's impossible to get shards this way, as the extract with water is anything else than pure.
You need to ingest at least 10 to 15 grams of this tar to trip, that's like 20 to 30 times more than with pure mescaline.

Somethimes when tar dries it leaves some sort of pattern on the dish that resemble crystal patterns and can be mixed up with crystal shards just by it's look. But it's not.
Even pure mescaline salt doesn't forms shards at all. It's either thin long needles (sulphate), or snowflake like patterns (HCl), but no mescaline extract forms quarz-like shards.
To get solid rocks of mescaline you'd need ounces of it as starting material, and then slowly re-x it over days in a special solvent. It's simply not possible with a few hundred milligrams of a crude full spectrum extract.

So, whatever you saw as shards was not mescaline. Maybe calcium oxalate or some other cactus ingredient that had recrystallized. But non of the cactus alkaloids are known to form any shards in the concentrations they appear in cacti.


This is several grams of mescaline HCl crystals.
You need at least a dozen cuttings for this ammount, I got it via a/b extraction with water, citric acid, NaOH, xylene, muriatic acid, acetone, and it's like 30 times more pure than any crude water extract that you described.



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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Pandemoon]
    #27737368 - 04/16/22 01:58 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Pandemoon said:
Shards are pure alkaloids that crystallize to a single, pure, mostly translucent rock.

I have done this method more than a dozen times, and never got shards. It's impossible to get shards this way, as the extract with water is anything else than pure.
You need to ingest at least 10 to 15 grams of this tar to trip, that's like 20 to 30 times more than with pure mescaline.

Somethimes when tar dries it leaves some sort of pattern on the dish that resemble crystal patterns and can be mixed up with crystal shards just by it's look. But it's not.
Even pure mescaline salt doesn't forms shards at all. It's either thin long needles (sulphate), or snowflake like patterns (HCl), but no mescaline extract forms quarz-like shards.
To get solid rocks of mescaline you'd need ounces of it as starting material, and then slowly re-x it over days in a special solvent. It's simply not possible with a few hundred milligrams of a crude full spectrum extract.

So, whatever you saw as shards was not mescaline. Maybe calcium oxalate or some other cactus ingredient that had recrystallized. But non of the cactus alkaloids are known to form any shards in the concentrations they appear in cacti.


This is several grams of mescaline HCl crystals.
You need at least a dozen cuttings for this ammount, I got it via a/b extraction with water, citric acid, NaOH, xylene, muriatic acid, acetone, and it's like 30 times more pure than any crude water extract that you described.



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what is with you people? i literally used a razor blade fresh out the pack and chipped off literal crystal like shards from the bottom of the ceramic pot, i had a uv lamp and some uv posters back then and walls were a golden yellow, and the ceiling was textured white, the story goes i was collect the shards and placing them into a spare mason jar lid, not thinking ofc, and the lid was on top of the ring and the shards spewed over into the carpet, so i used the uv light to pick the shards out of the fibers and put them into the other one.


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Grey Fox]
    #27737530 - 04/16/22 04:22 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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The original setting to trip lol!  But tonight for me its just cannabis and mezcal.  But the full moon keeps calling.  One of these years I'm going to trip every full moon.  One of these years...





That is amazing.

I recommend seeking the full moon setting at sunrise.
Definitely an intense energetic moment in time.

Check out some pics down the bottom of this thread, check them out!

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27127790/page/1/fpart/2/vc/1


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Re: Bridgesii Thread [Re: Bardy]
    #27756975 - 04/29/22 07:54 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Bridgesii pups popping up from the oregano.





These cacti are a great choice for permaculture.  I would say that Trichocereus cacti are the perfect permaculture psychedelic to grow in warm enough climates, especially Bridgesii.  They grow happily, year after year, always volunteering a few fallen columns here and there to replant or for tea.  So easy and rewarding.  And they have a presence to be around.  Standing next to them in silence you can feel their energy.  It feels like peace and calm.


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