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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: Moria841]
    #27520507 - 10/27/21 05:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I’ve only found a couple of fruits so far. I do love watching the mycelium stretch out and expand, can only imagine the abundance in 100 years when they’ve engulfed the whole forest :lol:


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: midlifecrisis]
    #27521049 - 10/28/21 04:44 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Check town compost wood chip debris piles... travel a bit if needed


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: Sporespreder]
    #27521602 - 10/28/21 02:03 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I was going to check the spot in town I found this morning, but it is underwater. I guess this is how it likes to spread, but does anyone know if this helps or ruins any future fall 21 ovoid chances from this spot?


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: Orange Joe]
    #27523396 - 10/29/21 09:06 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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I was going to check the spot in town I found this morning, but it is underwater. I guess this is how it likes to spread, but does anyone know if this helps or ruins any future fall 21 ovoid chances from this spot?



They'll still be there. Unless it completely removed a large portion of soil it'll be good.


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: Moria841]
    #27525380 - 10/31/21 01:41 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I'll bring you out just south of Philly in the spring to show you whee they like to grow...


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: SandwichMan]
    #27525891 - 10/31/21 10:32 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I'm north of Philly and I've been scoping around the Lehigh in the Poconos since the honeys died off early last week, had a lot of fun hiking around but no luck yet. I'd love some tips if you have any to offer.


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: gayshua420]
    #27525937 - 11/01/21 12:25 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Don’t expect to find ovoids in the fall. That’s my tip


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: koods]
    #27526375 - 11/01/21 01:12 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

solid advice, thanks man. at least i’m getting much better at identifying galerina lol


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: Orange Joe]
    #27528385 - 11/03/21 05:28 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I agree that it should be good for future. We found a river spot this spring that produced, a friend went back and it was underwater, but went back again and found more.. and that's all within the spring window.


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: koods]
    #27528389 - 11/03/21 05:35 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

That is a good tip, but it sure is fun finding them in the fall lol - I've seen some fall monsters maybe due to slow growth. I couldn't let go of the season last year and was checking a new spot and found 1 in December last year, but couldn't find any at that spot in the spring (though there was a lot of ground cover there for them to hide).


Anyone have any thoughts on what the hard frost this morning will do to us?  I'd imagine that existing fruits would cease to grow more, but that new fruits can still pop?

I just put a shiitake block outside yesterday (already flushed twice, just has 1 fruit growing on it), curious what it does, that may help answer my question.


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: jowishod]
    #27528394 - 11/03/21 05:44 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah late frost is going to kill fruits and if it continues, it will stop all fruiting, but if it warms up might get new flush.


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: jet li]
    #27529425 - 11/03/21 10:36 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Don’t expect to find ovoids in the fall. That’s my tip




yea and for the northernmost hunters in NY/NJ it's probably even less likely you'll find them.

for those that do go out in fall, what time frame would you say encompasses the fall "season"?

do you just go out when it starts to drop to the 60-80's? I would assume you just try go out when it gets as close to the spring season as possible?


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: sbkn]
    #27529427 - 11/03/21 10:38 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Right now until the end of December

I’ll probably look tomorrow if I’m not being lazy. The fall season seems to peak around the time when you start to get frosts


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: midlifecrisis]
    #27529456 - 11/03/21 11:18 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Firstly, as shroomhunts said, you're going to have to be at least west of the i-95 to have a good chance, secondly, I think it's much easier for people to find their first ovoids in woodchip/mulch piles and gardens with woochips/mulch ground, opposed to going into the forest where ovoids naturally are much harder to spot. On top of that, if you're a beginner, it's going to be much harder to correctly identify the environment that ovoids grow in.

Upside of finding them in the wild is that you're going to find more, downside is that it's vastly more difficult than just searching over areas with woodchip/mulch, so once you have experience with actually finding/identifying ovoids, you'll have a much clearer picture of what to expect once you go trekking through the forest.     

Woodchip piles can be found in parks, along trails, even in front of buildings, and look in gardens with woodchips/mulch on the ground.

Try looking at the shaded/partially shaded ares of these patches of woodchip/mulch piles, you just don't want to go scouring a pile that's been baking in the sun all day getting dry as a rock (if it's a garden then it will almost definitely have a decent amount of shaded spots).

Thirdly, it's hard enough finding them in primetime, don't burn yourself out trying to hunt right now when their presence is much scarcer. This is all about lining up as many factors as possible in order to give yourself the best shot, so really plan out your hunting spots, you can use google maps to potentially find woodchip spots/public gardens and get a preview to see if it looks like a promising area.

You're going to find them, 2 years is a lot for no results but they will come if you keep going out, you just have to keep going out.

Lastly, I know Moria is a NJ hunter so maybe ask for some tips? but if all else fails, I would just make the drive west.


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: sbkn]
    #27529481 - 11/03/21 11:51 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I have no trouble finding them east of i95 in the spring. they've been in at least half the spots i've checked that seemed possible for them to grow, and i'm sure the trend would continue if I explored more areas (didn't have a car this spring and still raked in pounds just by walking).

That said, fall fruiting is highly inconsistent. A patch that had large fall fruits last year had none this year. So definitely don't set out to find new patches in the fall, just check the nearby spots that you'd already found in the spring


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    #27529520 - 11/04/21 12:45 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Like I’ve said before the only place where fall fruits are consistent are right along the Susquehanna from the Chesapeake up to at least Harrisburg. It’s that unusually shaped version that usually grows right from the tops of highly decomposed logs instead of from buried wood and grasses. I really think it’s a different species, or at least a subspecies that has drifted genetically away from the standard ovoid. Totally different morphology (they never end up with a flat top), different fruiting behavior and a consistent fall fruiting season.



You can also find the standard ovoids in the spring within feet of the weird ones, but they are in slightly different micro habitats and grow mainly in grasses from the ground off of buried wood


Alan wanted to sequence those weird ones but of course i forgot to send him some last time I picked them




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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: Moria841]
    #27530069 - 11/04/21 12:05 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

you were able to find pounds by only walking? did you use any other form of transportation in order to go to your spots?


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: sbkn]
    #27530071 - 11/04/21 12:07 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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you were able to find pounds by only walking? did you use any other form of transportation in order to go to your spots?



There were two spots a town over that I had a friend drive me to. Though I definitely could have biked if I felt like it. You can find a lot nearby if you know where to look...


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: Moria841]
    #27530093 - 11/04/21 12:17 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

ahh ok makes sense, I too am car-less so know all the struggles of trying to get to good spots. Surprisingly my (small) town actually has a couple of spots where ovoids grow (walking distance) but I was only able to locate these spots after nearly a year of scouring state parks and neighboring areas (also put in my time biking like a madman all around my town), funny how it works. In total both spots probably produce a couple pounds each year.

Do you mainly hunt in the woods or woodchip piles?


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Re: East coast 2021 ovoideocystidiata thread [Re: koods]
    #27530235 - 11/04/21 02:25 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Like I’ve said before the only place where fall fruits are consistent are right along the Susquehanna from the Chesapeake up to at least Harrisburg. It’s that unusually shaped version that usually grows right from the tops of highly decomposed logs instead of from buried wood and grasses. I really think it’s a different species, or at least a subspecies that has drifted genetically away from the standard ovoid. Totally different morphology (they never end up with a flat top), different fruiting behavior and a consistent fall fruiting season.



You can also find the standard ovoids in the spring within feet of the weird ones, but they are in slightly different micro habitats and grow mainly in grasses from the ground off of buried wood


Alan wanted to sequence those weird ones but of course i forgot to send him some last time I picked them






The fall ovoids I found along the Susquehanna this year in NEPA were out of the ground and haven't found any directly out of logs(yet). A couple of them got a flat top, but most didn't.


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