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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #27513668 - 10/22/21 01:47 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Doesn't the ratio depend on personal preferences?


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Failboat] * 2
    #27513724 - 10/22/21 02:14 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I know people might want to argue that but theory can be a little different then reality



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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr. Magoo]
    #27513728 - 10/22/21 02:18 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Sure, I wouldn't be suprised if it's best to take it at 50% cause that means half are fully formed and converted while the second half are in a downward slope, and then you gotta figure in the dry 'n cure.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Failboat]
    #27513734 - 10/22/21 02:24 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

That's the catch, you can't get 50% on a entire plant


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr. Magoo]
    #27513740 - 10/22/21 02:28 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

And as far as 50% it's not reality, that doesn't happen at the same time on any plant. It's the same as more salt or more pepper, it's personal preference. Half of the trichromes from the bottom to the top


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr. Magoo] * 3
    #27513748 - 10/22/21 02:31 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)



Still some fresh pistils.

Also got a little spider that has managed to string a line from this plant to the pepper plant six feet away. I figured I’d leave her to do her thing and eat some bugs


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Hobbit GDF] * 2
    #27513763 - 10/22/21 02:41 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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50% amber,thats alot.
most time i do about 5-15%

i bet 50 is nice




50 percent is supposedly the magic number. More dopy than up but I'm always high and I haven't personally tested that part so my judgement isn't probably as good (I'm always high and it's hard to differentiate). That's how far I take them and it's always been on the money in the past.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr. Magoo]
    #27513783 - 10/22/21 02:52 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I’d say I’m at 50% but I’m still harvesting next weekend because I can’t this weekend

Oh nvm you’re taking about amber trichomes


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: koods]
    #27513844 - 10/22/21 03:54 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I didn’t check the trichomes but that plant i flowered 20 weeks has a super relaxing high and then knocks me the fuck out.


Like sit down to watch a movie and suddenly wake up the next morning. :lol:


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: koods] * 2
    #27513906 - 10/22/21 04:45 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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I believe the purple is more from genetics and cold weather rather than just chlorophyll




Well I know it’s not chlorophyll because chlorophyll is green. My question is is the chlorophyll disappearing or just being masked by other things





The purple comes from anthocyanins, I think it helps absorb warmth from the sun. Unless damaged from frost, plants will still grow some when they turn purple towards the end. A lot of it is genetic and related to cold.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: hummingbird]
    #27514030 - 10/22/21 05:49 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Purple is fun, the devils cream auto has purple flowers.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: A.k.a]
    #27514152 - 10/22/21 07:04 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Hey I just discovered that chlorophyll and heme (blood) are practically the same thing, the only major difference is chlorophyll is built around magnesium and heme is built around iron







I had heard/learned about this a while back...

...kinda forgot about that "fact" though and to hear it is again and be reminded about it, that's pretty interesting :strokebeard: .






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Ok so I read up on this. Pure green color is only important in low light conditions. Other pigments block the blue and red light that are required for plants but not to the point where they prevent photosynthesis

The upshot is plants with non green leaves grow more slowly





I too just read about that a couple weeks or so ago.

I was curious about, pretty much what we're talking about here, when a leaf turns purple/dark colors what sort of impact the different pigments coming out during the cold have on photosynthesis.


We had a few cold nights this month, down to around 40, and a few of my plant started to turn purple weeks ago. The Ice Cream Cake in particular turned really beautiful colors in the cold and as it came to an end, golds & oranges & purples and blacks. I will eventually get pics up lol. My Wedding Cake last year was very purple as well, damn near black leaves.






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About the buds that have a soft oily texture, I wonder if that could be related to the plant producing a lot of terpenes with low melting points. Like I know there’s some that supposedly burn off if you keep the grow over 80.


I kind of noticed that my first round. Some of the plants I would just barely brush against and my arm would be sticky and you could smell it, while others I’d have to squeeze a bud and rub my fingers together.





That could have something to do with it.

I also think that some strains might produce trichomes that have a thinner membrane/shell and rupture more easily. And back to the terps & various compounds inside like you mention, perhaps those contribute to how easily that membrane/shell can rupture.

The foliage around the buds/sugar leaves on this plant also seem to be very soft & supple in texture, while some other strains I've grow have had more rigid and sharp sugar leaves coming out of/around the buds.

This plant def has a lot of oil though, the buds are soaked in it lol. I imagine it would produce A LOT of rosin.

Can't wait to smoke it.






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Failboat] * 4
    #27514318 - 10/22/21 08:42 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Purple is fun, the devils cream auto has purple flowers.




Keep an eye out for purple trichomes with that entire Sweet Seeds line. :thumbup:
I'd love to see/have the PCK cut they used for it.

Broke out some American Pie x Pitbull for tonight. The terps are really interesting. Kind of a pungent skunky coffee honey flavor. Still packs a solid punch after a year in the jar.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: the_chosen_one] * 1
    #27514376 - 10/22/21 09:16 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I've heard plants like that will put out purple or pink into extracts sometimes. There are some gorgeous PCK phenos out there, some of the really red ones look unreal.

That cross looks and sounds awesome. I like coffee smells in weed. I've been smoking on some flowers that are like 6-8 months in a jar lately, and it feels like they're packing more of a punch these days than when they were fresher honestly...maybe it's just me.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: hummingbird] * 1
    #27514484 - 10/22/21 10:49 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Right now I'm thinking it's not just you. :lol: Totally glued to my chair and dying to go to bed. This one has definitely become more narcotic with time. Not too bad for a 300w side project. I should probably do another serious run before I run out though. It's a really easy and fast flowering cross to work with so I dont have an excuse to run out lol.


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Re: Cannabis Growers *DELETED* [Re: the_chosen_one] * 1
    #27514654 - 10/23/21 05:09 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: koods]
    #27514665 - 10/23/21 06:12 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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My kill chamber is complete! I'm calling it the Q Box.

Wood block, 6oz squeeze bottles, plastic box with gasket, co2 sensor, fan, neoprene collar, co2 intake, exhaust hole.
I ran the gas for 30 minutes to get up to 85%. 80-85% took as long as 70-80% and 0-70%. About 10 minutes each. Seems to be losing about 0.5% per hour. I'm pretty happy with it. If I top it up each morning I think I can keep it >70%. From what I've read online this could take two weeks.

Whatchu guys think? Who's going to suffocate first, the cuttings or the pests?






Probably not gonna work that well if you still have oxygen in the atmosphere.

Get a tank of nitrogen. CO2 isn’t toxic the way you think it is. You need to suffocate them.

Also that water they are soaking in will become pretty fucking acidic in a 70% CO2 atmosphere.

If I had a problem with mites and I could get the plants into a sealed container like that, cyanide would be my choice. Quick and will kill everything and it’s a great source of nitrogen for the plants




You were right! I tried another round of clones in the co2 chamber but they all started to die again. This time it definitely wasn't from the lacquer, had to be the co2. I measured the pH of one of the water containers and it was 5.3 - carbonic acid. I'm not sure if the acidic water is killing them or some other effect but this did not work as planned. I'm thinking maybe if I seal the opening around the clone I could keep the co2 out of the water, or maybe just running at 35% or less co2 would probably still be effective without as much acidification, or adding pH up to the water to compensate for acidification.

Meanwhile I'm switching to the big guns. Got some Floramite, Avid, Forbid. I think they can all be used along with predators too, I know Floramite can for sure.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Solidstate420] * 1
    #27514675 - 10/23/21 06:29 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Pink and purples in the extracts are only possible when processing the flower after only the first 2 days or so, when it's still barely dry enough to process. The reason for this is colorants in nature shift in pH when they are dried and because of this their chemical make-up, reactivity and solubility change and even the color itself can simply disappear or change into another color. This fact makes not only getting purple extracts a more complicated feat but also makes getting most other natural pigments, really for any reason, quite a bitch.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard] * 3
    #27514739 - 10/23/21 08:04 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

You gotta get it while the getting is good. :awesomenod:
It's kind of hard to tell in this pic and there's still a hint of amber but put some heat to it and it bubbles purple. That was made from Dark Devil when the stems were still rubbery.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: the_chosen_one] * 2
    #27515093 - 10/23/21 01:03 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)



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