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Gr33nTree73
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 4,095
Loc: 585/843
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Shiithead said: I'm surprised you're not dead from alcohol withdrawal. That's a lot of booze.
I was thinking the same thing, I was drinking like that for a couple years and the withdraw included 4 days of delirium tremens with full blown hallucinations, heart palpitations, unable to regulate body temperature.
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Shiithead
Your Huckleberry
Registered: 04/05/13
Posts: 10,005
Loc: God's Flat Green Earth
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If they can put please use responsibility on the side of the container and call it a day, why can't they do it with weed?
-------------------- Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Psalm 12:6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Revelation 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
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Gr33nTree73
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 4,095
Loc: 585/843
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Shiithead said: If they can put please use responsibility on the side of the container and call it a day, why can't they do it with weed?
Well, now that I can buy weed here, the guy at my shop always tells people not to burn out when they leave
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The Blind Ass
Bodhi
Registered: 08/16/16
Posts: 27,357
Loc: The Primordial Mind
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At various points in my life I’ve been hooked on varying opiates/opioids. Kratom is not to be underestimated. Kratom contains several compounds which are in fact opioids After one 90 day stint of abstinence from everything I began using the “oh so benign plant medicine” - Kratom - or so they used to say about it back in the day and some still erroneously & naively believe that falsehood to this very day.
Sure it can be used as a traditional medicine appropriately in some cases (probably only by a very small handful of the people that take it) it’s got a unique pharmacological profile, and a bunch of other random chemical compounds in it that make it slightly difficult, but not even close to making it abuse/misuse/addiction/dependency proof. Not that you need to even be taking high doses for very long to get anguishing withdrawal symptoms from it. But w/e some people will try and justify and rationalize their addiction(s) in anyway they can until they believe their own b.s.
When I was using it I used 3-5g per dose x 3-4 times per day for 1.5 months straight. I quit one day because I didn’t like the side effects it was having on my system and I’d had enough of tolerating them in exchange for an ever diminishing & meager “buzz”. And all the while it was just as if it was sapping me of much of my life force energy and more. So I stopped.
The withdrawals were horrible. Just like any classic narcotic withdrawal. I saw a professional seeking treatment to help me get through the withdrawal & scored moderately high points all across the board on the Clinical Opiate Withdrawal Syndrome scale (C.O.W.S. Scale). He treated me with clonidine, trazadone, bentyl, and nsaids. It but only a tiny dent in the severity of the symptoms. It took a good 2.5 weeks after quitting before I felt more or less like the withdrawals were completely gone and I was fit enough to function somewhat properly again. Kratom sucks except for if it’s used only as a once in a blue moon sort of thing for short term minor-moderate pain relief that doesn’t respond to NSAIDS or stuff.
Most people are using it to self medicate their lack of a sense of well-being, which can manifest in myriad ways. Some for physical pain. Most of which can usually be routinely remedied by more skillful & effective means & with less detrimental effects than taking Kratom.
that’s just my own experience and I know many never had that bad of a time coming off of it, but let’s be real…Kratom , in general, is shitty. Still, I don’t think it should be made illegal, but I’d like to see it regulated justly. I’ve seen too many people get hooked - for many it took years and they suffered no big consequences…until they tried to quit.
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Edited by The Blind Ass (10/13/21 08:45 PM)
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Reticulated
Homo Reticulus
Registered: 08/24/21
Posts: 129
Loc: Scotland
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I’ve always been surprised by how blasé people are when talking about kratom.
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The Blind Ass said: And all the while it was just as if it was sapping me of much of my life force
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The withdrawals were horrible. Just like any classic narcotic withdrawal.
My trajectory and experience were similar, 5 months or so of daily use, 3x/day @3-5g. After 2-3 months I was chasing greatly diminishing returns and I had a really hard time stopping. I felt like a wreck for 2-3 months after I did manage to stop.
It’s anything but benign.
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Edited by Reticulated (10/14/21 01:26 PM)
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stzacrack
Stranger
Registered: 05/07/05
Posts: 3,881
Loc: United States
Last seen: 3 days, 16 hours
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I read the half life being 17.5 hrs
Maybe it was bullshit my bad yo
Addiction to me is not physically being able to get through a day of tree work
Sitting myself joint pain etc I can deal with yawns and sneezes
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stzacrack
Stranger
Registered: 05/07/05
Posts: 3,881
Loc: United States
Last seen: 3 days, 16 hours
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TrancedOutBrah said: Well your name is shithead and you're saying drug addiction is a joke that's easy to deal with.
Need I say more?
Its a joke compared to "serious" withdrawal for sho
Not to be understated but for real yo id rather be in jail kicking that shit than diesel
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Kalendula
Registered: 08/12/05
Posts: 666
Loc: Long Island
Last seen: 7 months, 11 days
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I bought an overpriced container of kratom at a local place a few days ago and I just woke up and I'm experiencing mild withdrawal. I'm about to take my first dose of the day and I don't have much left so I'm going to keep all my doses lower than usual in an effort to taper off of it.
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Edited by Kalendula (10/17/21 09:53 AM)
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Amanita86
OTD Keymaster
Registered: 09/26/12
Posts: 89,464
Loc: hades
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Withdrawl or hangover…
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stzacrack
Stranger
Registered: 05/07/05
Posts: 3,881
Loc: United States
Last seen: 3 days, 16 hours
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Amanita86 said: Withdrawl or hangover…
Right word?
I mean if sneezing 6 times every hr and a half is withdrawal....compared to heroin I can deal haha
Butbyea pretty afraid im gonna drink myself to death
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