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OfflinePsychedelic2000
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I'd request psilocybe cyanecens
    #27511241 - 10/20/21 10:54 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Right I'm 95% sure these are wavey cap pins and one mature mushroom but I am in no way a professional lol so I'm asking for a professional opinion πŸ˜€

Habitat found growing in a wooded area on a piece of wood south east uk.thanks in advance https://files.shroomery.org/files/21-42/474830835-IMG_20211020_164636.jpg

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27511355 - 10/20/21 12:28 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone??

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27511374 - 10/20/21 12:46 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Looks like Psilocybe cyanescens. Do they bruise blue? Have you any more mature specimens?

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Duggstar]
    #27511386 - 10/20/21 12:58 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the reply bud and not much blueing mabie only slight. and no that was the only mature one besides about 10 pins I'm going to head back to where I found them in a few days to hopefully find more mature ones how long would you say to wait to head back to the spot judging by the pics.πŸ˜€thanks in advance

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27511397 - 10/20/21 01:17 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I'm nearly sure they're cyans, I think I see a little bluing on the stem. I just a bit hesitant to say for sure because they look a bit atypical and I don't have first hand experience with them myself, but I'm sure someone else will probably come along and confirm them soon. I would say leave them a couple of days to come back to them.

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Duggstar]
    #27511415 - 10/20/21 01:49 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Alright cheers πŸ‘

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27511483 - 10/20/21 03:31 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Definitely more blueish bruising on the stem now

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27511503 - 10/20/21 03:53 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

From my learning they are not. I have never found them but done research. I would let them grow more and then revisit. No need to poison yourself.


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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Liberto]
    #27511519 - 10/20/21 04:09 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't plan on eating them until I knew 100% I believe they are as they have all/most of the identifying features but will wait untill someone more experienced can confirm

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27511564 - 10/20/21 04:43 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

It's not that these guys are not experienced,  it's just hard to tell a mushroom species at such an early stage of it's short life

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27511633 - 10/20/21 05:49 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Definitely more blueish bruising on the stem now




Can you show an update photo?

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Duggstar]
    #27511639 - 10/20/21 05:57 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I don't see ANY  blue bruising in the posted pictures and have NEVER seen Cyanescens growing directly from wood like that, only from wood chips/mulch.  I would like to see a spore print or obvious bluish bruising.


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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Doc9151]
    #27511643 - 10/20/21 06:04 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I've been watching this thread for a while scratching my head thinking, huh, they don't usually grow out directly from logs.  Maybe OP can post another picture showing the bruising?


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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Doc9151]
    #27511649 - 10/20/21 06:09 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

It's gone from blueish to darker on the stem how would I do a spore print if the mushroom is part dry or would I need to wait to get some more specimens

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27511692 - 10/20/21 06:58 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I was going to be a nay-sayer, but after seeing that last photo, definitely some good bluing there...

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Bardy]
    #27511706 - 10/20/21 07:14 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Are you in the SF Bay Area, by chance?

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: velvetanarchy]
    #27511708 - 10/20/21 07:16 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

South east UK sussex

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27511723 - 10/20/21 07:34 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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It's gone from blueish to darker on the stem how would I do a spore print if the mushroom is part dry or would I need to wait to get some more specimens

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Should still be good for doing a spore print. Cut off the stem and set the cap gills down on a piece of paper, cover with a glass or something and leave to print overnight.

I think I see more bluing in your pic, but the lighting isn’t that good. I’m getting more confident that it’s P. cyanescens though. Yes, it’s unusual to see them growing wild like that, ie not in a wood chip bed, but not unheard of in the UK.

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000] * 1
    #27511726 - 10/20/21 07:36 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I can at least verify that cyans will and can fruit directly off wood. At least they do in WA, I have found them myself fruiting directly off of downed trees and branches.


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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Duggstar]
    #27511794 - 10/20/21 08:41 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome will do it now πŸ‘ cheers for all the replys

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27511802 - 10/20/21 08:54 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

That is soooo Psilocybe cyanescens, the large one that is...

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: ZenZone]
    #27511843 - 10/20/21 09:53 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I have found them growing directly form logs but usually very decayed wood.
Looks like bruising but agree with the comments on taking a spore print.


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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Duggstar]
    #27511976 - 10/21/21 02:06 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I left it for about 5 hours gills facing down with a jar over it but no spores have fallen out did I not leave it long enough

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #27511979 - 10/21/21 02:09 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

The wood was fairly old and worn lol

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27511980 - 10/21/21 02:14 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I don't see what other mushroom it could be I have done a lot of research since yesterday evening and can't find any that resemble p cyanecens as much as these do even the lookalikes to p cyans don't look much alike compared 🀷

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27511986 - 10/21/21 02:31 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

All this mycology stuff is very interesting I'm hooked lol

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Doc9151]
    #27511997 - 10/21/21 03:04 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

A picture of the stem and cap in better lighting what do ya think 🀷
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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27512001 - 10/21/21 03:10 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

It’s a cyan.

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Duggstar]
    #27512005 - 10/21/21 03:17 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Cheers mate πŸ‘ thanks for all ya help.

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27512036 - 10/21/21 04:15 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Can anyone give me some good info on transplanting spores so I can make my own cyan patch for next autumn complete noob at growing as have never done it. Thanks in advance πŸ‘πŸ˜Š

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Re: I'd request psilocybe cyanecens [Re: Psychedelic2000]
    #27512074 - 10/21/21 05:25 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

A spore print would go a long way to 110% ruling out any lookalikes as most lookalikes and especially the deadly ones all seem to have rust coloured spore prints and Cyanescens a purple/brown print. If you and others are quite comfortable in the ID that might be the final clincher to make you 100% sure of it. Maybe grab some prints once those pins mature. Also incidentally prints would probably be the best way of collecting spores for future purposes.

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