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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: TrancedOutBrah]
#27506820 - 10/16/21 03:11 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh how horrible
My condolences, for your loss.
Get vaccinated folks
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
#27508308 - 10/17/21 06:23 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Heard something about one of the mechanisms of the pathogenesis of Covid that some of you may find interesting (I was amazed) - turns out a portion of the spike protein is very similar to staph enterotoxin B which is some of the nastiest stuff around - causes toxic shock etc - My explanation is pretty shitty but if you wanna listen to some hard science On this fucked up virus please take a listen to this week in virology episode 815
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: gman]
#27508582 - 10/17/21 11:44 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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gman said: Heard something about one of the mechanisms of the pathogenesis of Covid that some of you may find interesting (I was amazed) - turns out a portion of the spike protein is very similar to staph enterotoxin B which is some of the nastiest stuff around - causes toxic shock etc - My explanation is pretty shitty but if you wanna listen to some hard science On this fucked up virus please take a listen to this week in virology episode 815
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This is just the kind of creepiness that makes Halloween special! Probably gonna have to watch this a couple times to get a good understanding what they are on about, but so far it's not too oblque.
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: falcon]
#27508626 - 10/18/21 01:47 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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We should probably teach our bodies how to make that spike protein.
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: hummingbird]
#27508635 - 10/18/21 02:16 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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The vaccines don’t “teach” the body to make spike proteins. The body makes spike proteins based on the rna (or dna in the adenovirus vax) template provided in the vaccines. The template isn’t saved and once the mRNA has made a spike protein it is destroyed and there is no residual memory that could make more spike proteins in the future. The vaccines teach the body how to recognize and make antibodies that target spike proteins.
This “toxic” segment is not really an issue with spike proteins in vaccines. The ligand is only a small portion of the spike protein and is discarded into extracellular fluid when the spike protein cleaves and the viral membrane fuses with a cell during infection. The vaccine spikes dont cleave and the small toxin like segment isn’t separated from the spike protein structure so it is less visible to the immune system. Also, the number of spike proteins you get from the vaccine is orders of magnitude smaller than during infection.
This ligand causes an excessive immune response in some people and could be responsible for the cytokine storms and pathological inflammation seen in severe covid.
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] 1
#27508638 - 10/18/21 02:31 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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In another one of those podcasts they discuss why the CDC got it wrong when talking about viral loads in the noses of vaccinated vs unvaccinated people. Essentially in unvaccinated people the viruses are intact and infectious where the vaccinated people have a lot more viral debris and viruses that have been bound to antibodies. The pcr test cannot tell the difference between an intact and infectious virus and debris from a virus that has been destroyed or inactivated.
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
#27508715 - 10/18/21 06:55 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Colin Powell, the first Black U.S. secretary of state whose leadership in several Republican administrations helped shape American foreign policy in the last years of the 20th century and the early years of the 21st, has died from complications from COVID-19, his family said on Facebook"
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/colin-powell-first-black-u-s-secretary-of-state-dies-after-complications-from-covid-19-1.5627164?cid=sm%3Atrueanthem%3Actvnews%3Apost&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A%20Trending%20Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: falcon]
#27508757 - 10/18/21 08:09 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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The point is that COVID spike protein has a segment similar to staph enterotoxin B (SEB) that functions as a super antigen causing cytokine storm other inflammation organ damage etc. this is really nasty shit - Just another reason to get vaccinated. G
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: gman] 1
#27508910 - 10/18/21 10:34 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Around the onset of Covid in 2020 I had vitamin D deficiency.
Because Covid is so much worse with low vitamin D, the doctor advised me to supplement Vit D3.
I supplemented with 5000 IU vitamin D3 - being a quite obese guy.
Well over a year and a half have passed of daily 5000 units, and today my Vit D came back as 73 nMol/L, comfortably over the optimal 50 and excessive 125:
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After reviewing data on vitamin D needs, an expert committee of the Food and Nutrition Board (FNB) at the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine (NASEM) concluded that people are at risk of vitamin D deficiency at serum 25(OH)D concentrations less than 30 nmol/L (12 ng/mL; see Table 1 for definitions of “deficiency” and “inadequacy”) [1]. Some people are potentially at risk of inadequacy at 30 to 50 nmol/L (12–20 ng/mL). Levels of 50 nmol/L (20 ng/mL) or more are sufficient for most people. In contrast, the Endocrine Society stated that, for clinical practice, a serum 25(OH)D concentration of more than 75 nmol/L (30 ng/mL) is necessary to maximize the effect of vitamin D on calcium, bone, and muscle metabolism [11,12]. The FNB committee also noted that serum concentrations greater than 125 nmol/L (50 ng/mL) can be associated with adverse effects [1] (Table 1).
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Optimal serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels for multiple health outcomes Heike A Bischoff-Ferrari 1
PMID: 18348447 DOI: 10.1007/978-0-387-77574-6_5
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Recent evidence suggests that higher vitamin D intakes beyond current recommendations may be associated with better health outcomes. In this chapter, evidence is summarized from different studies that evaluate threshold levels for serum 25(OH)D levels in relation to bone mineral density (BMD), lower extremity function, dental health, risk of falls, admission to nursing home, fractures, cancer prevention and incident hypertension. For all endpoints, the most advantageous serum levels for 25(OH)D appeared to be at least 75 nmol/l (30 ng/ml) and for cancer prevention, desirable 25(OH)D levels are between 90-120 nmol/l (36-48 ng/ml). An intake of no less than 1000 IU (25 mcg) of vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol) per day for all adults may bring at least 50% of the population up to 75 nmol/l. Thus, higher doses of vitamin D are needed to bring most individuals into the desired range. While estimates suggest that 2000 IU vitamin D3 per day may successfully and safely achieve this goal, the implications of 2000 IU or higher doses for the total adult population need to be addressed in future studies.
Healthy levels longterm
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: gman]
#27509407 - 10/18/21 07:09 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm going to get a booster soon. There's A lot of details in the video, I caught the gist of it, but there's A lot that's A blur, looks worth watching again.
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: falcon] 1
#27509684 - 10/19/21 12:08 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ivermectin/Hydroxychloroquine/Zinc breakthrough
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DENNIS PRAGER (HOST): I'm broadcasting from my home because I'm not going into the station as I have COVID. I was tested positive last week and I have been steadily improving. At no point was I in danger of hospitalization. I have received monoclonal antibodies, that's Regeneron. I have, of course, for years -- a year and a half, not years -- been taking hydroxychloroquine from the beginning, with zinc. I've taken z-pack, azithromycin, as the Zelenko protocol would have it. I have taken ivermectin. I have done what a person should do if one is not going to get vaccinated.
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
#27509793 - 10/19/21 05:16 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
#27510770 - 10/19/21 11:57 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hear puppets are its cuisine of choice
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] 1
#27511365 - 10/20/21 12:35 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: Ivermectin/Hydroxychloroquine/Zinc breakthrough
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DENNIS PRAGER (HOST): I'm broadcasting from my home because I'm not going into the station as I have COVID. I was tested positive last week and I have been steadily improving. At no point was I in danger of hospitalization. I have received monoclonal antibodies, that's Regeneron. I have, of course, for years -- a year and a half, not years -- been taking hydroxychloroquine from the beginning, with zinc. I've taken z-pack, azithromycin, as the Zelenko protocol would have it. I have taken ivermectin. I have done what a person should do if one is not going to get vaccinated.
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante] 1
#27513808 - 10/22/21 03:22 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pfizer says its vaccine prevents 91% of infections in children 5-11.
Novavax has sent its vaccine to the FDA for approval which should come in a month or two. 90% effective at preventing infection and there were zero cases of serious covid in the vaccinated arm of 20,000 people.
Novavax is a spike protein nanoparticle vaccine.
Novavax had to change their threshold for a significant result because too many people were leaving the study to get another vaccine. Those who received a placebo during the trial are now getting real vaccine, which is pretty unusual. Usually if a vaccine already exists and you are testing a new vaccine, there is no placebo and the controls get the already approved vaccine
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] 2
#27513843 - 10/22/21 03:51 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok. This isn't up to debate anymore I don't see your point in continuous telling us these things. It's almost like you have an agenda but then again I think most of us know this already. Covid-19 is old news buddy move on.
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#27513854 - 10/22/21 03:59 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you aren’t interested then move on
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Gorlax] 5
#27514004 - 10/22/21 05:36 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: Ok. This isn't up to debate anymore I don't see your point in continuous telling us these things. It's almost like you have an agenda but then again I think most of us know this already. Covid-19 is old news buddy move on.
His nefarious agenda of breaking down complex information in a way that is easily understood
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Gorlax]
#27514974 - 10/23/21 11:41 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: Ok. This isn't up to debate anymore I don't see your point in continuous telling us these things. It's almost like you have an agenda but then again I think most of us know this already. Covid-19 is old news buddy move on.
You have got to be trolling. Some one please ban this user from this thread, this is an absurd thing for them to say.
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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] 1
#27515868 - 10/24/21 05:06 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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The crisis workers have gone home or elsewhere. My unit still has a few COVID+ pts but usually covid is not their primary issue for being in the hospital on this unit. The rest is just Ortho med Surg again. The unit had been the first to convert to 100% COVID in late spring 2020. Let's up this momentum keeps up
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