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Re: Let’s Talk About Ruth Bader Ginsburg being a racist piece of trash [Re: natedawgnow]
    #27518659 - 10/26/21 10:27 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Not at all, but it’s much more democratic to choose judges that reflect public sentiment, rather than half a dozen octogenarians trapped in iron lungs.




Electing judges is a great way to make sure that the judges are incompetent.



Yet being appointed for life by someone who is elected somehow ensures competency?




No, but it's better than direct election of judges.

Personally, I think the selection criteria for judges should be something other than "most charismatic guy in the pile".

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Re: Let’s Talk About Ruth Bader Ginsburg being a racist piece of trash [Re: Kryptos]
    #27518709 - 10/26/21 11:08 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

As it stands right now the selection criteria is “who does the Federalist Society want?”


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Re: Let’s Talk About Ruth Bader Ginsburg being a racist piece of trash [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27519184 - 10/26/21 05:26 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Still a step above popular vote.

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Re: Let’s Talk About Ruth Bader Ginsburg being a racist piece of trash [Re: Kryptos]
    #27519225 - 10/26/21 06:10 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

:nojustno:


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Re: Let’s Talk About Ruth Bader Ginsburg being a racist piece of trash [Re: natedawgnow]
    #27519826 - 10/27/21 07:59 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Not at all, but it’s much more democratic to choose judges that reflect public sentiment, rather than half a dozen octogenarians trapped in iron lungs.




Electing judges is a great way to make sure that the judges are incompetent.



Yet being appointed for life by someone who is elected somehow ensures competency?



You think?  I'd love to hear how you came to that conclusion.


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Re: Let’s Talk About Ruth Bader Ginsburg being a racist piece of trash [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27519827 - 10/27/21 08:00 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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As it stands right now the selection criteria is “who does the Federalist Society want?”



I don't see how you figure.  I appear in front of judges all the time who would never be chosen by the federalist society


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Re: Let’s Talk About Ruth Bader Ginsburg being a racist piece of trash [Re: Enlil]
    #27519836 - 10/27/21 08:07 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Are they Supreme Court justices?


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Re: Let’s Talk About Ruth Bader Ginsburg being a racist piece of trash [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27519847 - 10/27/21 08:16 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

No.


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Re: Let’s Talk About Ruth Bader Ginsburg being a racist piece of trash [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27519854 - 10/27/21 08:20 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

As I’m sure you know, judges, like other government officials, hold varying degrees of power.

A “good” judge might exist on some lower state court somewhere, but they aren’t making it to SCOTUS. It’s why we can elect socialist city council members but not a socialist president, and we at least get to vote for those positions.


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Re: Let’s Talk About Ruth Bader Ginsburg being a racist piece of trash [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27519862 - 10/27/21 08:26 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I've read a whole lot of your posts, and it appears that you think that majority rule is a good idea.  Can  you explain why you believe that?


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Re: Let’s Talk About Ruth Bader Ginsburg being a racist piece of trash [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27519903 - 10/27/21 08:57 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

My posts are a hodgepodge of idealism mixed with pragmatism, I think majority rule is a better option than what we currently have, especially when it comes to the Supreme Court. If we held national elections for Supreme Court justices we wouldn’t have to worry about Roe v Wade until the end of time, wouldn’t have to worry about a lot of things. I’m not under the impression that most people are smart enough to navigate the system towards their own interests, but they’d do better at it than Senators or Supreme Court justices who are currently deciding these things in a much less democratic nature. The Court alone is one thing, but the apparatus that chooses who sits on it is undemocratic in itself. The nation moves left and the Court marches right, and pretty soon the Senate will be electorally out of reach for a Democratic majority for the foreseeable future. States shouldn’t vote, people should. But we’re not going to abolish the Senate or hold elections for the Supreme Court or dare alter the Sacred Texts in any meaningful way in my lifetime so it really doesn’t matter.


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