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Re: Meeting deceased people [Re: wolfman42] 1
#27500687 - 10/11/21 11:26 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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usually during alzheimers people see their dead relatives, talk with them and have other delirious experiences.
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Re: Meeting deceased people [Re: jayleno1] 1
#27559257 - 11/27/21 08:15 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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those who have died once were living. the ghosts are living memories of the living who are no longer living.
enjoy your people and your memories of people but try not to be confused by this issue.
once dead, no one can bother you, and you cannot bother them either. it's over except for where memory survives, and for where stories are made and embellished and repeated.
VOOdoo is doodoo.
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Re: Meeting deceased people [Re: jayleno1]
#27559953 - 11/27/21 07:30 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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redgreenvines said: those who have died once were living. the ghosts are living memories of the living who are no longer living.
enjoy your people and your memories of people but try not to be confused by this issue.
once dead, no one can bother you, and you cannot bother them either. it's over except for where memory survives, and for where stories are made and embellished and repeated.
VOOdoo is doodoo.
I've dreamed car accidents the night they occur. Literally. Only to find out the next morning via relatives of the accidents, (one was fatal) . The other rolled over and survived ( i rolled a car over in the dream).
To say phenomena isn't real is your rightful opinion. But i disagree, although i have no experience with tripping and ancestors, yet, i know enough to not expect anything less than wonderful things from the magic that is life.
Also, as a meditator of 11 years, the place where i learned it, talks about the higher stages where communion is common place. Communion with not just ancestors, everyone and anyplace. I've not reached that yet, through my own fault (sexual tendencies to orgasm vs preserving energy to advance).
If you have experiences that indicate otherwise I'd love to hear it.
Oh dear, yes I have lots of experience with magic and life and am a meditator for over 50 years. I said voodoo is doodoo because all those things that have been set up to scare people are a crock. this includes all those fearful deities and schlock that we get from religion and movies including eastern religious mythologies.
there is lots to learn about mind including what can be taught using symbols, metaphors, tantras, yantras and the like, but the hocus pokus stuff is not worth recycling.
You do not need to believe in witchcraft to use what works and you can find what works yourself in yourself. I do not deny the existence of telepathy events at all, I do deny contact with the deceased, and I assess that too much profit is made on people's ignorance, and fears for the culture of the dead to be abandoned.
I did not say phenomena is not real, and in your case - the kinds of road agony to which you have been mentally attuned is frightful. I really hope that you keep those dreams from taking over your time, dream up some good stuff instead.
Anyway, I have not met real honest to goodness deceased people except in dreams, and it was fascinating and phenomenally real at the moment - but not something to speculate on as externally meaningful. It completes the self at the time and that is all it needs to do.
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