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OfflineMickey1959
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Spawn jars seem slow *DELETED*
    #27468230 - 09/14/21 02:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Spawn jars seem slow [Re: Mickey1959]
    #27468248 - 09/14/21 03:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It is not very likely that you achieved sterility of your grains with that method. Incubating Cubensis mycelium is not ever a good idea as it just speeds up contamination as well. Cubes will colonize down into the 60s but ideally are kept around the 72F range. I'm sorry to say that there are a lot of flaws with your method.

A good place to start if all you have is a steamer is BRF cakes (brown rice flour/vermiculite aka PF cakes). They can work really well and are a lot easier to use to get started with limited gear.

Some terms to search up:

BRF cakes

Pressure cooker

Sterile technique

SAB (still air box)

Laminar flow HEPA filter ("flow hood" is another common term for this)


Jars should only take a couple weeks at the most to colonize regardless of size or method or material inside. Anything longer and they are probably full of contamination.

Check out the AMU thread here on the shroomery. There is a lot of good info and helpful folk. Also check out "getting Started". I'ts right at the top in the community page.

Keep coming back and keep asking questions. This is the place to find the answers and if it's what you want to happen you'll be swimming in shrooms before you know it.

Welcome aboard,
~Nich


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Re: Spawn jars seem slow [Re: Mickey1959]
    #27468252 - 09/14/21 03:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

A. What do you mean by lC?

B. 80 is too much, the 70 situation was better.

C. What does the "growth" look like? Got pics?

Doh, nich answered better.

Edited by Smartattack (09/14/21 03:13 PM)

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Re: Spawn jars seem slow [Re: Smartattack]
    #27468361 - 09/14/21 04:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

^ what he said

if you want to work with grain, get a pressure cooker. if you dont want to get a pressure cooker, do pf tek

how was this liquid culture made?


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Re: Spawn jars seem slow [Re: Nichrome]
    #27468438 - 09/14/21 05:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

sorry can't use this site it's a nightmare it's no us Nich I can't use this
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Nichrome said:
It is not very likely that you achieved sterility of your grains with that method. Incubating Cubensis mycelium is not ever a good idea as it just speeds up contamination as well. Cubes will colonize down into the 60s but ideally are kept around the 72F range. I'm sorry to say that there are a lot of flaws with your method.

A good place to start if all you have is a steamer is BRF cakes (brown rice flour/vermiculite aka PF cakes). They can work really well and are a lot easier to use to get started with limited gear.

Some terms to search up:

BRF cakes

Pressure cooker

Sterile technique

SAB (still air box)

Laminar flow HEPA filter ("flow hood" is another common term for this)


Jars should only take a couple weeks at the most to colonize regardless of size or method or material inside. Anything longer and they are probably full of contamination.

Check out the AMU thread here on the shroomery. There is a lot of good info and helpful folk. Also check out "getting Started". I'ts right at the top in the community page.

Keep coming back and keep asking questions. This is the place to find the answers and if it's what you want to happen you'll be swimming in shrooms before you know it.

Welcome aboard,
~Nich



Hi Nich,

When you say incubating Cubensis is not ever a good idea what do you mean.

Regards Martin Steele
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Smartattack said:
A. What do you mean by lC?

B. 80 is too much, the 70 situation was better.

C. What does the "growth" look like? Got pics?

Doh, nich answered better.


Quote:

Nichrome said:
It is not very likely that you achieved sterility of your grains with that method. Incubating Cubensis mycelium is not ever a good idea as it just speeds up contamination as well. Cubes will colonize down into the 60s but ideally are kept around the 72F range. I'm sorry to say that there are a lot of flaws with your method.

A good place to start if all you have is a steamer is BRF cakes (brown rice flour/vermiculite aka PF cakes). They can work really well and are a lot easier to use to get started with limited gear.

Some terms to search up:

BRF cakes

Pressure cooker

Sterile technique

SAB (still air box)

Laminar flow HEPA filter ("flow hood" is another common term for this)


Jars should only take a couple weeks at the most to colonize regardless of size or method or material inside. Anything longer and they are probably full of contamination.

Check out the AMU thread here on the shroomery. There is a lot of good info and helpful folk. Also check out "getting Started". I'ts right at the top in the community page.

Keep coming back and keep asking questions. This is the place to find the answers and if it's what you want to happen you'll be swimming in shrooms before you know it.

Welcome aboard,
~Nich



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Re: Spawn jars seem slow [Re: Mickey1959] * 1
    #27468449 - 09/14/21 05:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:confused:

You almost got it I think.


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Re: Spawn jars seem slow [Re: Smartattack]
    #27468451 - 09/14/21 05:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

man down man down!

he means dont keep your tubs in that small hot box you made. open air is better.

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Re: Spawn jars seem slow [Re: Ora]
    #27468521 - 09/14/21 06:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Cubes don't require incubation. Incubation is the provision of more heat than ambient temp for the purposes of speeding up growth. This is almost always detrimental to cube mycelium. If you are comfortable your cubes are too. On a shelf at ambient room temperature and ambient room light (not direct sun) is 100% ideal.


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Re: Spawn jars seem slow [Re: Mickey1959]
    #27468998 - 09/15/21 07:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The first syringes I bought took 3+ weeks to colonize in the brown rice and vermiculite method. After I took a spore print and made my own syringes the colonization went much faster. I took it to mean that I had syringes from old stock. If you are seeing growth, and its white, stick it out for another week or 2. Contamination is the hardest part about this hobby. If you can get a working strain you can keep it alive and vibrant.

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