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OfflineMr.Croup
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New to Micro dosing Psilocybin.C. Tips for finding the sweet spot
    #27458077 - 09/06/21 09:45 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Hi everyone.

Sorry to start another MD "sweet spot" thread

I have read up a little on micro dosing. But i haven´t really understand the dosage. And specially how i find my "sweet spot" because I have never tried mushrooms before so i dont know what to expect.

Due to the low dose 0.1-0.4 im sure that the effects will be quite hard to recognize. And the paradox with MD is that you shouldnt feel any effects (or am i understanding it wrong)

Please advise me on what effects to look out for when ill try to find my sweet spot.

all the best


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Re: New to Micro dosing Psilocybin.C. Tips for finding the sweet spot [Re: Mr.Croup] * 2
    #27458801 - 09/07/21 02:23 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Welcome, you're entering the realm of personal opinion and preference.

Sadly as mushrooms are illegal in most places microdosing hasn't been properly studied which means there is a lack of any sort of rule book.

Regarding sweet spots, expectations, feeling, and effects, in my opinion it all really boils down to why you are interesting in microdosing.

What grabbed your interest in the first place? What is it about your current expereince of life that has lead you to wanting to try microdosing?

I ask these questions (there is no need to reply public here, just mull them over in your head if the answers involve info you don't want to share publicly, your reasons are your own) because having some intentionality will help give you a refernce point when seeking out the answers to your questions.

At the end of the day, all you can do is examine your motives, set an intention, and start to expriment with dose. A great rule of thumb is start at the lower end of the dosage scale, say 0.05. Try that for a week or so then check back in with your intentions and motives. Then adjust accordingly.

The only expectations I would hold on to or cultivate would be in relation to your intention. Other than that I feel a stance of open exploration will serve you best. The microdosing may have an impact that you never imagined, or it could be much more subtle that you expected. The point is you could cloud your expereince by comparing it to expectations that were unrealistic in the first place. Or you may be 'looking in the wrong direction' and not pick up on some unexpected impact.

To give you an example I'll describe the path I followed:

I was interested in microdosing for two reasons really. Simple curiosity, I wanted to see what sort of an impact microdosing would have on my life, I had read some pretty exciting stuff online and the claims being made seemed worth exploring. Secondly, I was going through a period where I was having a lot of obsessive thoughts. Nothing dramatic that got in the way of my day to day living, but I thought maybe microdosing could relax or loosen my mind a little.

I started on 0.25g* and having two days between doses. This was fun, but I slowly realised that 0.25g was too present for me. So over a period of time I took some breaks, adjusted the dose, ect. Now I've found a pattern and dose that I feel it helping to produce the effects I orginially set out to achieve. I now eat 0.1g with two days between dose and regularly take a break where I won't dose for a week or two.

Personally I found my expereince of microdosing to be much more subtle then some of the claims made online and have come to realise that, for me, things like mediation, exercise, and renouncing certain negative activities have achieved what I wanted in a more dramatic manner.

*I say 0.25gs, I actually weighed out 0.9 grams the very first time I dosed. I was trying to weigh 0.09 grams to test the water but in all the excitment misread the scales. Needless to say is was an interesting morning and I didn't make that mistake again.


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Re: New to Micro dosing Psilocybin.C. Tips for finding the sweet spot [Re: coversall]
    #27459049 - 09/07/21 09:33 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

you are just going to have to experiment yourself to find out what works for you , for my MD i take 0.40 /0.50g  - personally i can take upto a gram before i notice any real 'effects'at all other than mind clarity which starts at 0.40 for me.


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Re: New to Micro dosing Psilocybin.C. Tips for finding the sweet spot [Re: pugster] * 1
    #27459078 - 09/07/21 10:17 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Here's a few things to consider:

1) What are you looking for out of your micro-dose?

Are you looking for a reduction in anxiety/depression/other mood/psychological issues?

Are you looking to increase energy/ clear foggyness of thought?

Are you looking to be more open to daily experience?

(Just examples of a few reasons why someone might turn to micro-dosing)

2) Do you want your micro-dose to be supplemental (i.e as an optional boost to your day) or medicinal (i.e as a treatment for some issue/ailment)?

Once you figure out your intent, you need to experiment to find the dose which suits that intent. This could take a few weeks to dial in. On top of that, it may take a few months to see the benefits of micro-dosing.

Personally, my micro-doses are just barely perceptual. I can "feel" them, but not enough to impede with my day (and even as little as 0.1g too much can negatively affect my functioning for an hour or so).

I found my sweet spot to be 0.2-0.3g. 0.4g has too much of a sedative effect on me for about an hour. It's a nice effect if i'm not working but makes me "too chill" in a high paced work environment.

And I liked to dose either every other day or every 3 days. Furthermore, I always took it a couple of hours before work so that, in case its stronger than expected, I have time to ride it out. Because, remember, even the same dose can vary in strength if your mushrooms are variable in potency.


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Re: New to Micro dosing Psilocybin.C. Tips for finding the sweet spot [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #27459377 - 09/07/21 02:44 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you #coversall, #pugster and Socratesshroom for your answers and insights

Why i want to start MD. i have two reasons. Curiosity and personal development (trying to come to terms with certain negative activities.) And like you Coversall I have read some intriguing research about Psilocybins (MD and full dosage) influence on creativity, focus, anxiety, depression and substance abuse (alcohol). People have had profoundly life changing experiences on both MD and full dose. Some of them are borderline ridiculous. 

I feel that my intentions today are somewhat between supplemental and medicinal, or both. This is something that i perhaps need to consider.

With that said. I´ll try to summarize your answers below.
-Intention is really important. 
-Start low and then increase the dose.
-Dont rush it. take my time and explore.
-Its difficult to dose Psilocybin because the nature of the shrooms. (I will buy a small batch of dried shrooms and turn it to dust)

But what are the indicators that im taking too strong MD. Or read the scale wrong :smile:. With a full dose it is easier ill presume. Because in my small research i havent found more indicators than dizziness and nausea, but that are mostly for stronger doses. (.5 an upwards).Correct me if im wrong. But these indicators are guidelines. When i experience them i know that the dose is too strong. So the next time i will lower my dose.

#coversall. you wrote *I say 0.25gs, I actually weighed out 0.9 grams the very first time I dosed. I was trying to weigh 0.09 grams to test the water but in all the excitment misread the scales. Needless to say is was an interesting morning and I didn't make that mistake again.

Great story! And this is something i initially was worried about. Me flying down the office hallway shouting "this is bat country" and have a not so pleasant chitchat with my boss :smile:.

Best regards


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Re: New to Micro dosing Psilocybin.C. Tips for finding the sweet spot [Re: Mr.Croup]
    #27459388 - 09/07/21 03:00 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Everyone is different but to be completely honest, in my experiences over the years, micro-dosing has not yielded the benefits that I expected (perhaps unreal expectations). I eventually found that even low doses (1-1.5g) are more effective than micro-dosing.

And because of this, I prefer to take low-mid doses, every few weeks. I took a mid dose (1.3g PE which felt like almost 3g of non-PE cubes) about 3 weeks ago and for two weeks I felt incredible. I'm overdue again.

But when I micro-dosed, I had mild reduction in anxiety immediately, along with a small increase in openness, but nothing else. And over time I felt no significant amelioration of my depression.

This isn't to say micro-doses don't work. Everyone is different. This is to say that this is your journey. You'll need to figure it out. Don't be afraid to experiment with all kinds of doses (though i'd obviously advise against anything above a micro-dose if you're planning on working or operating heavy machinery soon after).


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Mr.Croup said:
With that said. I´ll try to summarize your answers below.
-Intention is really important. 
-Start low and then increase the dose.
-Dont rush it. take my time and explore.
-Its difficult to dose Psilocybin because the nature of the shrooms. (I will buy a small batch of dried shrooms and turn it to dust)





Good basic summary. That last one is spot on. Try to have as consistent of a dosing experience when micro-dosing as possible.

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Mr.Croup said:
But what are the indicators that im taking too strong MD. Or read the scale wrong :smile:. With a full dose it is easier ill presume. Because in my small research i havent found more indicators than dizziness and nausea, but that are mostly for stronger doses. (.5 an upwards).Correct me if im wrong. But these indicators are guidelines. When i experience them i know that the dose is too strong. So the next time i will lower my dose.





I get a feeling of "butterflys" in my stomach on the come-up of a trip and when I have that feeling after a micro-dose, I know I've taken too much. Again, since you're dealing with micro-doses, you won't just go from perfectly normal at, say, 0.1g to tripping balls at 0.3g. But the jumo can be enough to make you slightly uncomfortable in a work setting if you're not used to it. Eventually, however, its easy to control slight overshoots with dosage because you become familiar with the feelings.

I'd suggest trying a couple of micro-doses on non-working days to get familiar with the experience.

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Mr.Croup said:
Great story! And this is something i initially was worried about. Me flying down the office hallway shouting "this is bat country" and have a not so pleasant chitchat with my boss :smile:.





Unless you really overshoot, this isn't going to be the result. You'll probably just have an awkward grin and "feel funny". You don't go batshit crazy from taking a hundred extra milligrams or so.


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Re: New to Micro dosing Psilocybin.C. Tips for finding the sweet spot [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #27459936 - 09/08/21 01:01 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

You're on a cool path!

Don't forget there is no wrong or right way to do this, if a dose/pattern is working for you and bringing about positive change then thats the right dose for you.

Given my history with drugs I can have a hard time being honest with myself about the postivie/negative impacts of my use. I don't have a hard time justifying basically getting high everyday. So personally for me a bit part of microdosing was being aware of when I was starting to turn a blind eye to any interfering effects in the name of feeling goofy. This isn't a crypto-judgment on those who take larger doses! Merely me acknowledging that I can't trust myself 100% when it comes to drugs.
Therefore a big criteria for me was to really stick to the sub-threshold idea of microdosing. I knew I had got to the right dose region when I wouldn't know whether the dose was doing anything or the day was just going really well, if you see what I mean.


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