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OfflineLuigiCalamar
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My plan for Microdosing - looking for constructive feedback.
    #27447859 - 08/29/21 10:45 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I've been using these forums, reddit and other sources to put together my plan for micro-dosing psilocybin. 

I am looking to micro-dose with the intention of helping my mood disorder (I am angry all the time - and when I'm not I'm just suppressing anger - so I'm ready to get 'snippy' at anytime.  No physical violence - just always fighting anger at all times)

So I've decided to start with this:

- 100mg of Psilocybin + 500mg Lions Mane

- 4 days on 3 days off

- Will purchase powder versions of both so I can easily change dose amounts of each.

- Will take Lions Mane only when taking Psilocybin - though I'm open on that.

Let me know if this sounds like a good start?

(Note: it is the regiment I keep going back and forth on - 1 day on 2 days off, 1 day on 1 day off, 5 days on 2 days off, etc... If I go from 4on 3 off - will likely go to 1 day on 2 days off to start?)


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Re: My plan for Microdosing - looking for constructive feedback. [Re: LuigiCalamar]
    #27450706 - 08/31/21 10:05 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Looks good, try one regime, then the other.

Stay open, stay flexible.

Really set an intention when you eat your dose.

Don't expect an instant 'cure'. Stick with it.

Changes may be subtle and build gradularly.

I don't want to shove anything down your throat, but imo pairing microdosing with the development of a daily mediation practice could be beneficial for what you are looking to address. Check out the free content on apps like headspace to guide you.

Here's the problems I have with your plan:

Buying mushrooms and buying powdered mushrooms.

Powder is not a great way to store psilocybin mushrooms.

And they are simple to grow.


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Re: My plan for Microdosing - looking for constructive feedback. [Re: coversall]
    #27450726 - 08/31/21 10:23 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you very much for the feedback and suggestions.

Wasn't aware of the powder issue - is that for loose powder as well as for capsules?

Does the potency wear off?


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Re: My plan for Microdosing - looking for constructive feedback. [Re: LuigiCalamar] * 1
    #27453028 - 09/02/21 01:24 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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LuigiCalamar said:
Does the potency wear off?



Correct. It oxidizes. This happens faster because of the enormous surface area of a powder.


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Re: My plan for Microdosing - looking for constructive feedback. [Re: LuigiCalamar]
    #27454551 - 09/03/21 07:57 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

LuigiCalamar said:
Thank you very much for the feedback and suggestions.

Wasn't aware of the powder issue - is that for loose powder as well as for capsules?

Does the potency wear off?




As blacksheep said its a matter of oxidization and surface area. I can't really comment on how much having the powder in capsules will attenuate this but personally I wouldn't trust it.

I would store whole fruit, then if capsules were an important part of the process for you, would look to make small batches on the fly.

Personally I just eat the dried fruit and don't bother with powedering or capping.


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Re: My plan for Microdosing - looking for constructive feedback. [Re: coversall]
    #27454755 - 09/03/21 10:55 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with the responses so far.

I do powder and cap my own grows in batches of 100 at a time. I got a cap machine and 00 vegan caps (the vegy caps dissolve faster). My capsules work out to .45g lions mane and .05g tamps each. Since tamps are approximately twice the strength of cubes, the ratio is just about the same as your plan.

I use the exact schedule that you have in the OP. 4 on 3 off. This helps me a lot with anxiety rather than anger, so ymmv.

So far ime potency in the capsules is definitely holding for several month with a desiccant in the bottle. No problem. Can't say how long they are good, but I have taken several capsules at once for a museum dose after many months and they were still effective.


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Re: My plan for Microdosing - looking for constructive feedback. [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #27454812 - 09/03/21 12:18 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Oh cool to hear about that about tamp strength, seems a little easier to dose than pans. Microdosing pans was too sensitive for my scales I think!


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Re: My plan for Microdosing - looking for constructive feedback. [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #27454815 - 09/03/21 12:20 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

This is great information - THANK YOU SO MUCH...

To clarify - 100mg in a capsule - is basically the same amount you state (not sure what TAMPS are?)

Would you recommend capsules vs loose powder?

Also - you are taking 450mg of Lions Mane with your Psilocybin - what about off days - do you continue taking the Lions Mane on those days?


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Re: My plan for Microdosing - looking for constructive feedback. [Re: LuigiCalamar]
    #27454825 - 09/03/21 12:29 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

LuigiCalamar said:
This is great information - THANK YOU SO MUCH...

To clarify - 100mg in a capsule - is basically the same amount you state (not sure what TAMPS are?)

Would you recommend capsules vs loose powder?

Also - you are taking 450mg of Lions Mane with your Psilocybin - what about off days - do you continue taking the Lions Mane on those days?




tamps are a different species of mushroom Psilocybe tampanensis

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Re: My plan for Microdosing - looking for constructive feedback. [Re: coversall]
    #27454912 - 09/03/21 01:31 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I prefer the capsules for convenience and for some protection against oxidation which is known to reduce potency of psilocybin.

Coversall nailed it on Tamps. They are a species of mushrooms that are a bit stronger than cubensis. They are currently my favorite, but I have yet to try Pans.

As to dosing tiny amounts, this is what i do. As Coversall said, reasonably priced scales are not accurate enough to measure that small of a dose. So I take 45g of dried lions mane and 5 grams of dried Tampanensis and blend them together in a Magic Bullet blender until they are a fine powder and well mixed. Then I use a cap-m-quick machine to make 00 capsules. I use the extra tools (see links below) to pack them real tight and get approximately .5g per capsule. Assuming a very even mix, this should result in 100 half gram capsules with about 0.45g lm and 0.05 g tamp each. For cubes or pans, you could play with the ratios a bit.

I also made a bunch of lions mane only capsules that I sometimes take on "off" days. I am not as consistent with that, though. My wife takes the lm only capsules every day for nerve issues in her feet and believes that they help because the "shocks" return if she missed a few days.

Links to the tools I use for reference:
https://www.herbaffair.com/products/cap-m-quik-capsule-filling-machine-with-tamper?variant=14478583005226
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08PF7KW1W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0865QL5XX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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