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Re: RGV's Consciousness 101 Basics [Re: Ferdinando] * 2
    #27465550 - 09/12/21 12:50 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Dunno if this belongs here but want to get it out (again) somewhere I can reference real quick.  Can edit it later...

Just woke up from a nap where I retained lucidity through the entirety of it.  It began when I became aware that I had left my iPad on playing Star Trek TNG and I could hear it as if muffled underwater due to me descending into another state of consciousness that goes with sleep then with a clearish-silverywhite light between the eyes area (either above the forehead or on it - either way it’s all mental really so pinning down its locality is whatever).  I focused my attention to this clear light and concentrated it - played with it a bit - changed its shape - and the more I did the more real it became to me - and then eventually pulled it into the centre of my being and let it dissolve into me - and man - when I did that incredibly intense vibrations just poured all throughout my body. 


Felt like a pure cleansing energy or fire almost seizure like if it went any further.  Incredibly euphoric - also pretty darn frightening at times, but this time I didn’t take my hands off the wheels (or rather I kept them off the whole time and fought the instinct to grab hold of the “wheel” thereby allowing the experience to continue to a point I never thought possible.  I rode that baby as far as my mind could take it.  Experienced literally dozens upon dozens of false awakenings all while lucid, worked on meta material in me that if not confronted could lead to worse trauma - what guidance from myself in this place/space that was most in line with the dharma and the gospel.  I wrote the whole thing down after waking up and I’m going to go visit the central scene of the crime, so to speak, that being the place the majority of the dream took place at (some pool nearby to where I live).

Pretty darn neat.

Anyways.  The really interesting points were when things like attention, sensation, memory, and free will  all were watched linking up or rather me aware of their inherent linkyness but it was beautiful like watching DNA self replicate in real time on the micro level standing beside the stuff or something.  Free Will actually gets a place in space! 
It wasn’t like my usual rare lucid dream experiences, went way beyond that and I’m only sharing a sliver of it here bc the rest is only intelligible to me.  Any who, a Freebie mystical experience completely sober!  Exact same after effects as a good good psychedelic trip, bc really, it was psychedelic as fuck.  Strange strange mysterious life we live, this reality! Hot damn!  Hip hip hooray 😁.  :cheers:


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Re: RGV's Consciousness 101 Basics [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #27488297 - 10/01/21 04:53 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Do you mean like focused attention? as opposed to open monitoring meditation?
Sorry, I just jumped in and didn’t follow along so I may be way off base here. If so just ignore.

Anyways, for some reason your posts on this page bring to mind Marcel Duchamp.  Your mapping out of things in an open way that is receptive & inclusive to change/addition, as we understand more over time, is a neat model for people wanting to intellectually grasp the mechanics behind the phenomena of consciousness from a psychonaught-scientist-yogi’ish POV.  Being able to see it in action - so to speak - reflected by our actual experience of the moment reminds me how amazing it truly is to be aware of consciousness. Plus, your sig of the baby-mirror pic is a powerful image, evoking primal non-dual awareness - and used as a link to the map model?  Thats just icing on the cake.
Good work RGV. :mushroom2::thumbup:



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Re: RGV's Consciousness 101 Basics [Re: Moses_Davidson] * 1
    #27567564 - 12/03/21 12:04 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

That’s my favorite image/photo on the Internet atm.
Utter perfection!  :cheers:


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Re: RGV's Consciousness 101 Basics [Re: teknix] * 1
    #27568615 - 12/04/21 04:38 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Doing it in the desert…probably not recommended. :thumbdown:
The opposite practice though…
the one for the hot climates?
Inner ice cube    :smirk:


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Re: RGV's Consciousness 101 Basics [Re: redgreenvines]
    #27579598 - 12/13/21 06:22 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

:mushroom2: Happy belated birthday old man :oldman:


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Re: a demonstration in Javascript of the ideas in the original post [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28292575 - 04/24/23 08:10 AM (9 months, 6 hours ago)

thank you red


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Re: a demonstration in Javascript of the ideas in the original post [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28294714 - 04/25/23 12:12 PM (8 months, 30 days ago)

15 mins is attainable.


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Re: a demonstration in Javascript of the ideas in the original post [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28294733 - 04/25/23 12:24 PM (8 months, 30 days ago)

that's a mighty feat imho,
true effort applied in the world,
with & for others + the mutual benefit.

Too many times I've seemed to be almost like a magnet for drunk drivers.  As if my body appears to them like an ABC store or something. :picard:

Now I limit my driving to well within my limits, under specific conditions (if possible), and still- with much padding added -just in case...

Too many accidents caused me to develop a strange condition wrt driving that has had efx on other areas of my life unfortunately.  "Always a silver lining" wrt The Road =  Nowadays I presume nearly everyone on the road is drunk and texting as a precautionary measure to help me cope. :lol::sadyes:

Anywho,


Your snack is well deserved. :grin: :birdfeed:


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Re: RGV's Consciousness 101 Basics [Re: Neurotech]
    #28361014 - 06/15/23 02:39 PM (7 months, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Neurotech said:
mensional world cannot fathom a 3 dimensional object.

Ordinary reality may be protecting us from waking up the way that dreams do. In a dream, your alarm clock becomes a fire engine.

If you realize you are dreaming, you wake up.

The dreamer doesn't know he is dreaming does he?

Namaste




experience ala primal nondual awareness and/or lucid dreaming shows otherwise.

upon realizing/recognizing one is aware that one is dreaming (as in, an activity being performed), if we can discreetly circumvent gently & skillfully to shadow along with or mitigate some of the more subtlety activated autonomic bodily impulses associated with general cns arousal that can wake us from our sleep, then dreaming can be continued whilst the dreamer's brain is aware of some of the body's actual circumstances wrt-
...how should i say this? - both dimensions of experience at once.    although that isn't exactly it either.  rather, i'm just saying that as an expressive way of depicting something.

Similar to when actively tripping on psilocybin or lsd at times -

> and when someone is simultaneously aware of the shared environment of nature as inclusive of the hallucinatory realm of mind manifestation.



For instance, I've found that, outside of dreaming at night while asleep and ingesting exogenous hallucinogens, one of the simplest way to test it for myself is by developing a quasi-goalless (w/ a ground rule of reality checking every perceivable instant of awareness) meditative practice in which one is allowed to wander, grow sleepy, and dream for brief periods of time.  And play around with it to no end.

The short episodes of hallucinatory dream that ensue can eventually then fall under one's general awareness replete with retaining the knowledge and sensation of the shared world in and around the meditator/dreamer ~ without being fully deluded by dream/hallucination/illusion.

Apologies if what I wrote is confusing,
language for properly describing the above can sometimes be painfully difficult.


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Re: RGV's Consciousness 101 Basics [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #28365233 - 06/19/23 08:56 AM (7 months, 6 days ago)

Quote:

I do not have published references to anything that specifically states that the C-T loop extends while on psychedelics or emotional (limbic mediated) state change.



/edit
Hey Red, as usual ty for showing & sharing your work here in this thread.  I can't begin to tell you how delightfully refreshing it is. :thumbup:

Help me ponder here a bit if you would please -wrt the quoted bit - How and what might the testing/measuring of it entail?

(i think you may have answered this for me in the past but I can't find it atm...:tongue:)


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Re: RGV's Consciousness 101 Basics [Re: morrowasted]
    #28366230 - 06/19/23 08:13 PM (7 months, 5 days ago)

Reminds me a bit of like when drawing an image by rapidly using the light from a laser pointer to repeatedly trace it.  Possibly with or without more than a single wavey-vibratey point of origin? 
Maybe, kind of, sort of - but not really at all, ha.  Red,  please help rectify this questionable analogy.  :lol:


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Re: RGV's Consciousness 101 Basics [Re: morrowasted]
    #28367075 - 06/20/23 12:17 PM (7 months, 5 days ago)

Quote:

morrowasted said:
I do think there's an extent to which you're failing to 'see the [potential] forest for the trees [you tend closely]. And your trees are very beautiful and you've taken good care of them. Nevertheless. Forest?




The Brain Forest of Dreams.


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Re: a demonstration in Javascript of the ideas in the original post [Re: Neurotech]
    #28386133 - 07/05/23 04:09 PM (6 months, 20 days ago)

LoL, the remainder of the portions of nonsense from your post aside, how is anything being done in this thread limiting the possibility of discovery?  You're tripping man.


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Re: a demonstration in Javascript of the ideas in the original post [Re: morrowasted]
    #28386409 - 07/05/23 08:56 PM (6 months, 20 days ago)

telepathy of some sort or another with respect to mind to mind phenomenon is legitimately interesting.

and I do wish more could be said than just that - but from what i've seen thus far it seems that either it hasn't yet or it can't yet - at least not for certain - not for the time being anyways at least.


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Re: a demonstration in Javascript of the ideas in the original post [Re: morrowasted]
    #28386419 - 07/05/23 09:03 PM (6 months, 20 days ago)

that's really not what I at all mean when I said it.

that's normal if not a touche different


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Re: a demonstration in Javascript of the ideas in the original post [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #28386430 - 07/05/23 09:10 PM (6 months, 20 days ago)

That's its own thing but altogether different from what I had in mind, but yeah I more or less would have to concur about that also too.

What I was referring to has Nothing to do with reading of minds or any of that other nonsense which can be easily understood quickly by us now.

maybe better to heed it no mind really

:ducklol:


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Re: a demonstration in Javascript of the ideas in the original post [Re: morrowasted]
    #28386448 - 07/05/23 09:36 PM (6 months, 20 days ago)

No, not quite that either. 

ps. I said pay it no mind because I honestly don't know what to do about it - if anything - anyways.

Anywho.


Quote:

I never trust a turn signal.




it's a matter of how much trust can be reliably predicted for each process taken.  when possible i try to allow leaving the max appropriate amount of space for it to go anyway it can go - within good reason.

That is, unless intentionally wanting to miss out on signals.  Which, definitely might not be the brightest of ideas if you're trying to min-max the settings only available to us temporarily within the more goldilockish years of the human lifetime, but certainly not that I'm beyond partaking in it at certain times.  :lol:

Quote:

yet oddly none of them die of it........




give it time.

i've held plenty of people's brain's in my hands that shared similar sentiments.

ha..*sigh*


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Re: a demonstration in Javascript of the ideas in the original post [Re: morrowasted]
    #28386459 - 07/05/23 09:48 PM (6 months, 20 days ago)

There certainly is something to what you're saying but I would be very careful with what that actual thing is in particular to what it isn't since given what is known of the mind's propensity for delusion. 

So, with that said...

At the end of the day,

In so far as the better mathematicians of us can rule out,

what the best physicians, biologists, and chemists all play about,

You might be right.



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Re: a demonstration in Javascript of the ideas in the original post [Re: morrowasted]
    #28386471 - 07/05/23 10:03 PM (6 months, 20 days ago)

Agreed, for the more important bits, and in those respects I wish we could see a molecular configuration for the layout associated with the corresponding matter . ahhh... :thumbup:

:piperdream:  butsrlyiwish:  :sadyes:


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Re: a demonstration in Javascript of the ideas in the original post [Re: morrowasted]
    #28386507 - 07/05/23 10:46 PM (6 months, 20 days ago)

:strokebeard:

as a directionless abider stargazing away my final days ahead and as someone who's already squandered more than enough resources for a lifetime

-oof-

exploring more languages, why not?


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